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Post by Chip Chipperson on Jan 20, 2015 20:52:47 GMT -5
So, that is a plus side. I wish TNA though would focus on growing instead of hot shooting. Be it feast of fired, Lockdown, whatever. NXT is a good example of a great wrestling show where not much happens. There aren't many big angles, there aren't many crazy matches, sometimes there are lots of squash matches. But, it's consistent. NXT is a great template for what TNA should be right now, to try and slowly grow the ratings. One issue with TNA is people should have been thinking year by year instead of week by week. Paul Heyman for instance talked about how he had a 5 year plan for TNA, and that's what is needed. Jim Cornette talked about this before. He was asked when he was in WCW, what can we do to draw money in May. He said, nothing, but if we start working on stuff now, we can draw money in July and August. This has been my main problem with TNA for the past year and a half or so. For example with their most recent shows they probably could have got at least 3 months out of Lashley/Roode III and EY/Roode but the matches have already been given away so nobody will pay for it again. Wouldn't it have made sense to do Lashley/Roode III inside a cage so that the match was different from the first two? They also insist on having the titles change on TV. As an occasional thing this can be good but the last time the TNA Title changed hands on PPV was Bound For Glory 2013. Why am I going to think buying a PPV is a good idea when all the title changes happen on TV? How am I meant to think these PPV's are special when title changes, rematches etc make the PPV's worthless? My last complaint is the gimmick matches. We don't need a hardcore match every week on TV that lessens their impact and means TNA constantly has to top itself which it can't do. Why am I going to buy a PPV centered around a Steel Cage main event or a Street Fight if I see them regularly for free?
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Post by ICBM on Jan 20, 2015 20:53:26 GMT -5
Surprised by the boost, and credit to the big marketing push for it, though I don't see it lasting in the coming weeks. They (TNA) know there just isn't the distribution like there was on Spike. Spike also had the advantage of being well established in the demo they were after with I impact. The move hurt for viewers who may not have destination America, but worse because casual fans won't know, won't care and now have less access to the product to sample in the event they got the press push and it worked. But the good news is, TNA survived 2014 and there is life after Spike. You cannot expect instant success when you completely change direction. I have enjoyed the Impact's on DA and the push has been great. But I believe if it would have been done on say a TBS, USA, A&E, FX, the viewing pop would have been significant. I doubt the new viewers would have stayed, but it would have worked at the onset. I'd give it a few more weeks to level off before I believe that any viewership number is an average or an expected figure. It took a year and a half and a time slot change to get them to 1.1 on Spike. My best guess based on nothing but trendy TV slots, is they will fluctuate between 320k and close to 400k for six weeks or so. The number they'll be left with sticking with it will likely be around 340-360k. In three years the network will be a little wider and better known...but in three years streaming might have taken a huge bite out of TV. They need to get ahead of this thing and get a deal with a real streaming service or better yet several.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 20, 2015 22:28:34 GMT -5
If the spoilers are any indication, some of those "new" people won't be around for long.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 21, 2015 10:41:32 GMT -5
So going by this and Impact not f***ing it up (which they will eventually do because TNA always TNA'd things), they should hit a 1.0 in 2018.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 21, 2015 22:44:23 GMT -5
Taking nothing away from TNA actually gaining viewers (seriously, good job on that), I wonder if the debut special on Wednesday was poorly advertised. Obviously we'll have to wait until next week to see if the increase continues or maintains, but I'm curious as to whether the extra 30,000 or so people that tuned in to Impact on Friday knew about the episode on Wednesday.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 22, 2015 6:59:51 GMT -5
Taking nothing away from TNA actually gaining viewers (seriously, good job on that), I wonder if the debut special on Wednesday was poorly advertised. Obviously we'll have to wait until next week to see if the increase continues or maintains, but I'm curious as to whether the extra 30,000 or so people that tuned in to Impact on Friday knew about the episode on Wednesday. TNA were treating last week as the season premiere for some reason. Might have gotten a few curious eyes on it.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 22, 2015 7:55:45 GMT -5
That is a surprise actually. Friday is mostly known as a social night when people in the 18-34 demographic are out with friends. I wonder if they can keep that rating up. Being in that demographic I can tell this, anymore what I'm seeing is on Fridays people end up out and about 11 or later while Saturday is when most people are out earlier.
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Jan 22, 2015 8:04:14 GMT -5
That is a surprise actually. Friday is mostly known as a social night when people in the 18-34 demographic are out with friends. I wonder if they can keep that rating up. Being in that demographic I can tell this, anymore what I'm seeing is on Fridays people end up out and about 11 or later while Saturday is when most people are out earlier. I guess it depends on the area I'm also in the same demographic and most people leave at about 9. Enough time to get home from work, shower, eat, have a couple of pre drinks and go out to the bars/clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 8:49:18 GMT -5
Being in that demographic I can tell this, anymore what I'm seeing is on Fridays people end up out and about 11 or later while Saturday is when most people are out earlier. I guess it depends on the area I'm also in the same demographic and most people leave at about 9. Enough time to get home from work, shower, eat, have a couple of pre drinks and go out to the bars/clubs. Australia's culture as a whole is a bit different though. The same here in NZ. I've noticed huge differences between the three. Major cities seem to turn into the night scene a bit earlier here and in Aus. I think it's because there's more later/early morning options in the states. People can leave a bit later. That and, at least from my experience (I've been a bouncer, doorman and security on both continents) the people here tend to start drinking earlier (and drink a hell of a lot more). It's like the party starts here at 10 but things don't really get going til midnight in the states. Worse even because there's no public intoxication laws here... huge culture shock. As it pertains to the topic... I'd definitely say that the US has the Friday evening gap between work/school and clubs in which they could possibly watch TNA. If anything it's a hell of an excuse to start drinking earlier...
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 22, 2015 8:59:54 GMT -5
Taking nothing away from TNA actually gaining viewers (seriously, good job on that), I wonder if the debut special on Wednesday was poorly advertised. Obviously we'll have to wait until next week to see if the increase continues or maintains, but I'm curious as to whether the extra 30,000 or so people that tuned in to Impact on Friday knew about the episode on Wednesday. Dunno about the debut, but they had been advertising the hell out of the "Season Premiere" which was the Friday show. From all accounts DA is really behind TNA.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 22, 2015 9:42:27 GMT -5
Congrats to them, it's a suprise to see them rise up in number. However, for their sake I hope they aren't beating their chest and giving each other high fives. A lot of work is still to be done and based off what I read for the upcoming weeks they still have a long way to go for in ring product. Props to DA for giving them a bit of a leap of faith.
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