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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 13:08:38 GMT -5
I just put some Limp Bizkit on my Spotify playlist, let's see how long it stays on it.
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 19, 2015 13:09:59 GMT -5
I blame Limp Bizkit's 'Results May Vary' album. It was the first nu-metal album I ever bought, and it was so f***ing awful that I couldn't bring myself to buy another one.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Jan 19, 2015 13:21:03 GMT -5
people finally stopped to listen to a fred durst interview?
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 19, 2015 13:23:42 GMT -5
I think the audience growing up definitely killed it. Speaking personally, when I listen back to some of those bands I enjoyed back then, it just seems so cheesy. For the most part, it seemed like most of the lyrics were pure garbage. Example: Disturbed. Listening to something like Stupify or Down With the Sickness as an adult makes me cringe. Down With the Sickness especially does that. That portion in the middle where he pitches a fit about his mom is one of the most embarrassing things put on record. I remember going to a metal/nu-metal day long festival during the peak of its run. Not often you can pinpoint the exact moment you change your stance on something but that show was it for me. I am not kidding when I say seven bands in a row came out and started their set with a Disturbed style parents/authority keeping you down rant. The kids roared then went back to sitting on their hands. It was like the cheap pop of metal at the time. My father was dieing at the time and I thought f*** these suburban spoiled guys for whining about people who supported their artistic endeavors and propped them up in the garage. It was like the only trick they all had, one magician doing a trick is cool when seven in a row do the same trick it isn't impressive. Add to that that previously concerts I had gone to had an energy and a passion but this festival was just flat. And it seemed to get worse every subsequent show in the metal genres I went to, mosh pits became just a few dudebros going through motions for only the big hits then fading off. I ended up finding substance and passion in different genres.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jan 19, 2015 13:25:26 GMT -5
I think it was a combination of the audience growing up, the market being over-saturated and a large majority of the bands just not being very good at all.
I'm glad I was coming out of my teens when nu-metal hit it's high and didn't get stuck in with that fad or amoungst people who did. I probably never would have but going to a highschool with a bunch of those people would've been sad. I still like some of the muisc (the first two KoRn albums...that's really it).
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 19, 2015 13:45:53 GMT -5
Please tell me Jonathan Davis isn't still whining about High School.
He's gotta be 45 by now.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 19, 2015 13:59:03 GMT -5
I think most fans of nu metal got into those bands and then got into the heavier stuff and never went back or just stopped listening to metal altogether. I know I got into all sorts of hard rock music because of nu metal then as I got a bit older found myself getting into all the indie stuff that was coming out like Killers, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys etc. That was a good time for that genre I feel. Nu Metal served it's purpose and for me I probably wouldn't be into any of the music I'm into now without it. Thank you Limp Bizkit! Going by your explanation, wouldn't fans of Nu-Metal have gravitated toward super heavy stuff like Slayer or Napalm Death rather than softer and more melodic stuff like Arctic Monkeys? I listened to very heavy stuff when I was a teenager, but toward the end of my teenage years, I began listening to rock that was less intense because I found it too distracting when I began to seriously commit to doing homework and studying to the best of my ability.
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Post by 4real on Jan 19, 2015 14:06:44 GMT -5
I think most fans of nu metal got into those bands and then got into the heavier stuff and never went back or just stopped listening to metal altogether. I know I got into all sorts of hard rock music because of nu metal then as I got a bit older found myself getting into all the indie stuff that was coming out like Killers, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys etc. That was a good time for that genre I feel. Nu Metal served it's purpose and for me I probably wouldn't be into any of the music I'm into now without it. Thank you Limp Bizkit! Going by your explanation, wouldn't fans of Nu-Metal have gravitated toward super heavy stuff like Slayer or Napalm Death rather than softer and more melodic stuff like Arctic Monkeys? I listened to very heavy stuff when I was a teenager, but toward the end of my teenage years, I began listening to rock that was less intense because I found it too distracting when I began to seriously commit to doing homework and studying to the best of my ability. I think nu metal got a lot of people into Rock period really but for some the next step, Slayer & Napalm Death as you said were too much and 'not cool' as the trends changed so did they. The garage rock that was coming out around that time as well with The Strokes, Hives, White Stripes etc may have seemed more cooler to some. I have been guilty of following trends too but I always stayed with metal as well.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jan 19, 2015 14:14:10 GMT -5
Machine Head releasing a Nu Metal album really opened my eyes to how much of a cash and grab it became. This makes me laugh because my brother found my Supercharger album the other day
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 19, 2015 14:35:00 GMT -5
I think most fans of nu metal got into those bands and then got into the heavier stuff and never went back or just stopped listening to metal altogether. I know I got into all sorts of hard rock music because of nu metal then as I got a bit older found myself getting into all the indie stuff that was coming out like Killers, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys etc. That was a good time for that genre I feel. Nu Metal served it's purpose and for me I probably wouldn't be into any of the music I'm into now without it. Thank you Limp Bizkit! Going by your explanation, wouldn't fans of Nu-Metal have gravitated toward super heavy stuff like Slayer or Napalm Death rather than softer and more melodic stuff like Arctic Monkeys? I listened to very heavy stuff when I was a teenager, but toward the end of my teenage years, I began listening to rock that was less intense because I found it too distracting when I began to seriously commit to doing homework and studying to the best of my ability. I'd say Nu-Metal fans turned more towards Industrial Metal and it died off soon afterwards too but opened up a lot of influence on digital made music which is still dominant in EDM and Dubstep.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 19, 2015 14:42:59 GMT -5
Not to get political, but 9/11 may have been a factor as well, since all of a sudden, we had a REAL problem to deal with as opposed to suburban angst. Not to mention that people wanted more positive messages in the wake of what happened, for the most part. As for the stuff about nu-metal bands hating their parents, thats why i always liked the line in Saliva's "Superstar II": "No whining about my evil parents/they did their best to raise their only son".
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jan 19, 2015 15:10:08 GMT -5
Please tell me Jonathan Davis isn't still whining about High School. He's gotta be 45 by now. Not sure, but he just put out a song called 'Hater'. Yup, an almost-50-year-old using the word 'hater' to detract his critics.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 19, 2015 15:26:44 GMT -5
Not to get political, but 9/11 may have been a factor as well, since all of a sudden, we had a REAL problem to deal with as opposed to suburban angst. Not to mention that people wanted more positive messages in the wake of what happened, for the most part. As for the stuff about nu-metal bands hating their parents, thats why i always liked the line in Saliva's "Superstar II": "No whining about my evil parents/they did their best to raise their only son". I was going to say 9/11, but not for the reasons you mentioned. Angst never went away, it just bled into other genres. Rather, the wanton destruction that was the underlying theme of a significant chunk of the Nu Metal canon just felt inappropriate to listen to in the 2-3 months following the September 11th attacks. The American public got a breather, and a few months later when those bands came out with either their more melodic post-9/11 output or their even-more-aggressive pre-Iraq War output, listeners had just had enough and these bands were immediately considered distinctly September 10th.
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Post by rocket on Jan 19, 2015 15:28:18 GMT -5
Not to get political, but 9/11 may have been a factor as well, since all of a sudden, we had a REAL problem to deal with as opposed to suburban angst. Not to mention that people wanted more positive messages in the wake of what happened, for the most part. As for the stuff about nu-metal bands hating their parents, thats why i always liked the line in Saliva's "Superstar II": "No whining about my evil parents/they did their best to raise their only son". That's actually a good point. That seemed to be around the time it really started petering off. I'll add the garage rock revival around that time didn't do nu metal any favors. To me, there came a point where more and more nu metal songs sounded the same without anything constructive to add.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 19, 2015 15:32:25 GMT -5
Bands starting with "The"
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 19, 2015 15:34:30 GMT -5
pfft, the only thing to kill Nu-Metal was Old-Metal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 15:39:53 GMT -5
All that matters is that it's dead.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 19, 2015 16:17:18 GMT -5
Nu metal being a shitty fad genre of music that had a limited lifespan is what killed nu metal.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 19, 2015 16:50:04 GMT -5
The Ice Age..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 17:01:26 GMT -5
As others have said, there were a bunch of different factors. I think a lot of it was due to the fact that nu-metal just was never really gonna' last as a genre. A lot of the genre's popularity was due to the oversaturation of boybands in the late 90's; to mainstream music listeners who hated the Britneys and Backstreet Boys of the world, a crude, angry, noisy alternative like Korn or Limp Bizkit would've likely been right up their alley. In 2002 or 2003 there was no such competition; post-grunge groups like Evanescence and Staind were dominating the charts, and there just wasn't really a demand for something loud and dumb.
Linkin Park's Meteora was probably the genre's last gasp, but even on that album the band was experimenting with different sounds and styles. Some pioneering groups, like the Deftones, had shed their nu-metal sound as early as 2000. Oversaturation and whatnot was obviously a part of the decline, but I think for the most part, it was because the genre was, as Fred Durst put it, "a moment in time."
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