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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 20:04:01 GMT -5
No one other than Reigns has a shot. Face it and wake up. This. There is no way anyone else is winning. Too bad everyone will cry about it on the night despite it being painfully obvious for months now. A stupid decision doesn't deserve to go un-scrutinized just because it was predictable that the mistake would be made.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 5:53:17 GMT -5
This. There is no way anyone else is winning. Too bad everyone will cry about it on the night despite it being painfully obvious for months now. A stupid decision doesn't deserve to be scrutinized just because it was predictable that the mistake would be made. Rephrase that Lizuka? I don't see why a stupid decision doesn't deserve scrutiny whether it was predictable or not... (not that Regal Stretch's crying comment wasn't douchey anyway)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 6:28:29 GMT -5
A stupid decision doesn't deserve to be scrutinized just because it was predictable that the mistake would be made. Rephrase that Lizuka? I don't see why a stupid decision doesn't deserve scrutiny whether it was predictable or not... (not that Regal Stretch's crying comment wasn't douchey anyway) Right, I meant to say not be scrutinized. I mistype stuff a lot.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 21, 2015 6:50:14 GMT -5
I don't see it happening now, I think not being there for 2 weeks has slowed his momentum a bit and Bryan & Reigns are the 2 guys most likely to win with Ambrose possibly having a slight outside chance. To be honest, the last few weeks has seemingly slowed all of the favorites' momentum. Roman Reigns's lack of main event polish and bad mic skills was brought to the forefront with this feud with Big Show, a guy he should be running through given the push he has been rumored to be receiving. He still seems to be the favorite, but they can only hide his weaknesses so much when being THE MAN requires being able to do 20 minute promos and have thrilling singles matches at least monthly, which just so happen to be his biggest weakenesses. Daniel Bryan still has quite a bit of buzz for his potential encore Mania push, but having to go through Kane, who is clearly not the same Demon Kane that put him on the shelf, to earn his spot just seemed to water down the story. An anti-climatic loss to Bray Wyatt on Raw didn't help, making us wonder if WWE's perception of Bryan has really changed, given how it paralleled Bryan losing to Wyatt at the Rumble last year. Dolph Ziggler and Ryback both had their momentum cooled from being off TV for an angle that really wasn't needed. Ziggler was actually doing some cool stuff by being a fighting IC champion that won matches, while Ryback bared his soul for the world and was looking to emerge as a stronger character even in spite of surely jobbing to Rusev. Now the IC champ is back to losing non-title matches, and Ryback's promo has been forgotten by about half the audience already. Dean Ambrose could have established himself as a favorite, but like Bryan, he lost anti-climatically to Wyatt in the blow-off Ambulance match, even though the stipulation was perfect for a strong Wyatt loss seeing as though he wouldn't be pinned or submitted. Then the next week, he gets a Stoppage loss to Rusev that just made everyone look dumb and accomplished nothing. On Monday, he finally did something by pinning the IC Champ Bad News Barrett, putting him on par with....Sin Cara. In a way, they've created the perfect Rumble scenario, you got several guys with chances to win the Rumble, because everyone looks so tepid going into the match that they can't all lose.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 21, 2015 6:57:36 GMT -5
I don't see it happening now, I think not being there for 2 weeks has slowed his momentum a bit and Bryan & Reigns are the 2 guys most likely to win with Ambrose possibly having a slight outside chance. To be honest, the last few weeks has seemingly slowed all of the favorites' momentum. Roman Reigns's lack of main event polish and bad mic skills was brought to the forefront with this feud with Big Show, a guy he should be running through given the push he has been rumored to be receiving. He still seems to be the favorite, but they can only hide his weaknesses so much when being THE MAN requires being able to do 20 minute promos and have thrilling singles matches at least monthly, which just so happen to be his biggest weakenesses. Daniel Bryan still has quite a bit of buzz for his potential encore Mania push, but having to go through Kane, who is clearly not the same Demon Kane that put him on the shelf, to earn his spot just seemed to water down the story. An anti-climatic loss to Bray Wyatt on Raw didn't help, making us wonder if WWE's perception of Bryan has really changed, given how it paralleled Bryan losing to Wyatt at the Rumble last year. Dolph Ziggler and Ryback both had their momentum cooled from being off TV for an angle that really wasn't needed. Ziggler was actually doing some cool stuff by being a fighting IC champion that won matches, while Ryback bared his soul for the world and was looking to emerge as a stronger character even in spite of surely jobbing to Rusev. Now the IC champ is back to losing non-title matches, and Ryback's promo has been forgotten by about half the audience already. Dean Ambrose could have established himself as a favorite, but like Bryan, he lost anti-climatically to Wyatt in the blow-off Ambulance match, even though the stipulation was perfect for a strong Wyatt loss seeing as though he wouldn't be pinned or submitted. Then the next week, he gets a Stoppage loss to Rusev that just made everyone look dumb and accomplished nothing. On Monday, he finally did something by pinning the IC Champ Bad News Barrett, putting him on par with....Sin Cara. In a way, they've created the perfect Rumble scenario, you got several guys with chances to win the Rumble, because everyone looks so tepid going into the match that they can't all lose. Hell, the one going in on all the hot form in terms of actual results IS Bray Wyatt. He's only lost ONCE in televised matches since his return at Hell In A Cell, and that's basically non-canon because it was at Tribute To The Troops. Go figure that he finally gets booked strong just as the fanbase starts to turn on him...
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jan 21, 2015 7:20:17 GMT -5
No one other than Reigns has a shot. Face it and wake up. This. There is no way anyone else is winning. Too bad everyone will cry about it on the night despite it being painfully obvious for months now. Reigns is the clear favourite but to say "no one else has a shot" is complete bullshit. Why wouldn't several of the most over guys on the roster (Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, Ryback) or two of the guys WWE is clearly intent on pushing almost as much as Reigns (Bray, Rusev) not have a chance? Especially after last year with the huge backlash.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 9:14:06 GMT -5
Ziggler wins the Rumble.
Cena runs out to congratulate him.
Within days, Cena is somehow given the title shot at WM31.
Because WWE.
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Post by Lancers on Jan 21, 2015 10:57:45 GMT -5
I will say this.
Lesnar's "face" turn on Monday sorta makes the Reigns win not so automatic anymore. Because if the idea is to have a heel holding the WHC until WM to be bested by a face contender, that means that Seth Rollins has to win on Sunday.
But Rollins vs. Reigns has happened a couple of times already recently. It's not necessarily a must see match. That could open up the spot to Bryan, the uncrowned champion who never lost, face Rollins. A match that has happened before, but not in recent memory.
I still don't think Ziggler has any chance. He's gonna be lumped in with Ryback and Rowan for the next few weeks in some sort of feud with the Authority. Probably a six man tag facing Show, Kane and Harper.
But if Lesnar's "face" turn isn't really what I thought it came off as, then it's Reigns spot.
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Post by BrianZane on Jan 21, 2015 13:12:07 GMT -5
You can literally pick and choose the other favourites and can slot them into various WM matches....Ziggler is the one guy that came out of 2014 with ALL the momentum and commentary have been pushing 2015 as his year. I feel like people have been saying "this is Ziggler's year" for several years now.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 21, 2015 13:21:46 GMT -5
Ziggler is turning heel, having a mini feud with Cena, and getting squashed at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Fade on Jan 21, 2015 15:05:56 GMT -5
Ziggler deserves it, Bryan would be the best candidate, but lesbe honest guys, Reigns is winning it.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Jan 21, 2015 15:16:04 GMT -5
sorry to squash your dream scenarios (I'd also love to see Ziggler win and have no problem with Bryan winning it), but both Reigns and Bryan have a 50% chance of winning
I have a credible source here in Germany (wrestling journalist, many WWE sources since they work together) who told me Reigns was the sureshot winner like a month ago, but now things start to be more and more in favor of Bryan. ZERO percent chance that Ziggler, Ambrose or anyone else have any shot
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 21, 2015 17:28:44 GMT -5
I have a feeling that there will be a swerve away from Reigns and towards either Bryan (who still has a title reign to play out from last year) or Ziggler (who really has come into his own in Bryan's absence and proven himself worthy of a niche in wrestling history. There's a sense that Bryan facing Lesnar and Ziggler facing Rollins for the belt would be a win-win for fans. With Trips taking it upon himself to face Sting, Cena is left facing - who? And what about Reigns and Ambrose?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 21, 2015 17:51:57 GMT -5
I have a feeling that there will be a swerve away from Reigns and towards either Bryan (who still has a title reign to play out from last year) or Ziggler (who really has come into his own in Bryan's absence and proven himself worthy of a niche in wrestling history. There's a sense that Bryan facing Lesnar and Ziggler facing Rollins for the belt would be a win-win for fans. With Trips taking it upon himself to face Sting, Cena is left facing - who? And what about Reigns and Ambrose? Cena could face Rusev and give him his first pinfall loss and I suppose an Ambrose heel turn might let him face Reigns.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 21, 2015 20:13:27 GMT -5
To be honest, the last few weeks has seemingly slowed all of the favorites' momentum. Roman Reigns's lack of main event polish and bad mic skills was brought to the forefront with this feud with Big Show, a guy he should be running through given the push he has been rumored to be receiving. He still seems to be the favorite, but they can only hide his weaknesses so much when being THE MAN requires being able to do 20 minute promos and have thrilling singles matches at least monthly, which just so happen to be his biggest weakenesses. Daniel Bryan still has quite a bit of buzz for his potential encore Mania push, but having to go through Kane, who is clearly not the same Demon Kane that put him on the shelf, to earn his spot just seemed to water down the story. An anti-climatic loss to Bray Wyatt on Raw didn't help, making us wonder if WWE's perception of Bryan has really changed, given how it paralleled Bryan losing to Wyatt at the Rumble last year. Dolph Ziggler and Ryback both had their momentum cooled from being off TV for an angle that really wasn't needed. Ziggler was actually doing some cool stuff by being a fighting IC champion that won matches, while Ryback bared his soul for the world and was looking to emerge as a stronger character even in spite of surely jobbing to Rusev. Now the IC champ is back to losing non-title matches, and Ryback's promo has been forgotten by about half the audience already. Dean Ambrose could have established himself as a favorite, but like Bryan, he lost anti-climatically to Wyatt in the blow-off Ambulance match, even though the stipulation was perfect for a strong Wyatt loss seeing as though he wouldn't be pinned or submitted. Then the next week, he gets a Stoppage loss to Rusev that just made everyone look dumb and accomplished nothing. On Monday, he finally did something by pinning the IC Champ Bad News Barrett, putting him on par with....Sin Cara. In a way, they've created the perfect Rumble scenario, you got several guys with chances to win the Rumble, because everyone looks so tepid going into the match that they can't all lose. Hell, the one going in on all the hot form in terms of actual results IS Bray Wyatt. He's only lost ONCE in televised matches since his return at Hell In A Cell, and that's basically non-canon because it was at Tribute To The Troops. Go figure that he finally gets booked strong just as the fanbase starts to turn on him... WWE is to blame for turning people against Bray. Instead of building him with wins over established guys like Cena, they fed him the hottest new face in the company two years in a row with Bryan last year and Ambrose this year. It's stupid.
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Post by benstudd on Jan 21, 2015 20:48:09 GMT -5
Ziggler fans are like that kid at school who ask the teacher the most weird pointless questions at the wrong time.
But I admire your dedication.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 21, 2015 21:17:23 GMT -5
That's..That's gotta be Ziggler!
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Jan 21, 2015 23:41:13 GMT -5
There's only one Rumble winner a year, so there isn't enough room for every deserving main eventer to get a Rumble win. Both Bryan and Ziggler deserve it, and have similar underdog stories, but it's gotta be Bryan who wins it this year. I'd mark hard for Ziggler too though.
Ziggler hopefully will be in the main event scene later this year and will beat Rollins for his first WWE World Heavyweight Championship (with respect to the other belt). He could be the champ by Summerslam or something like that. No need to only save these moments for the Road to Wrestlemania part of the year.
And I'm sure next year they'll have Reigns win it. And hopefully he'll be more ready by then. Ziggler deserves it though for sure.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 21, 2015 23:52:21 GMT -5
Knowing WWE they'll tease Ziggler winning knowing full well it's an option which will please the crowd. Only for Kane to intervene and toss him over the rope giving someone nobody cares about like Big Show the win.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 0:12:37 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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