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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 24, 2015 21:13:30 GMT -5
No this is not a Samoa Joe fatman joke. In the wake of the feast or fired match I saw a lot of faces in which I was wondering why are they still here. This isn't really about nitpicking people out but more about how TNA uses their roster. You see a select few on tv every week and the rest of the roster is background noise. Since TNA is cutting cost, their roster shouldn't be as big as they have it. Really they could fit all of what they do on tv in their 2 hour spot back to one hour but that's a discussion for another day. What are your thoughts? Do you think TNA should trim their roster or are you on the other side of the argument where they should utilize their full roster.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 24, 2015 21:24:43 GMT -5
Trim the fat? Jesus, Ethiopians pity TNA and Kate Moss thinks they need an intervention. No one there outside Angle, Roode and a select few actually get paid, the rest are fighting for TV so they can get the spare change in Dixie sarsaparilla bottle.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 24, 2015 21:40:32 GMT -5
TNA's roster over the last two years has been pretty well thinned out, who exactly are you considering as "fat"? The Bro-Mans? The Menagerie? Maybe some of the Knockouts?
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Post by chrom on Jan 24, 2015 21:46:03 GMT -5
It's nothing but skin and bones right now.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 24, 2015 21:48:04 GMT -5
TNA's roster needs to be changed up honestly. Switch out guys who are stale for some new ones.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 24, 2015 21:51:12 GMT -5
TNA's roster needs to be changed up honestly. Switch out guys who are stale for some new ones. This is what I mean. My wording may not have been great. To clarify what I mean by the trim the fat is get rid of what's there that isn't used and either stick to a select few or go to a different focus on how u want your roster |
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Jan 24, 2015 21:52:20 GMT -5
I would replace guys not simply release them. Guys like Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, Tyrus etc should not be there and instead should be replaced by guys who can add something to a national (lol) product. Not putting these guys down because I like Uno and Tyrus but TNA has done nothing with any of these guys.
Replace them with guys from the indies or even the guys who didn't quite make it to the WWE main roster (Aka NXT "rejects") Gaburick should be receiving a shipment of DVD's every week from places like Highspots so he can scout talent. A guy like Al Snow should be sent out to scout talent and see who has the potential to "make it" and who doesn't. Apart from the occasional "name" who is too old to go back to WWE this should be who TNA focus their recruiting on.
I'd use that Wrestle-1 deal to my advantage also. TNA tapes 6 weeks in advance so there really is no excuse not to add some occasional international flavour to your X-Division or other title scenes. Wrestle-1 tours could be a carrot that TNA uses to get more established independent talent to sign with them also.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 12:56:34 GMT -5
They already got rid of Mickie James and Tommy Dreamer, now you want them to fire Matt Hardy and Samoa Joe too?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 25, 2015 13:05:24 GMT -5
They already got rid of Mickie James and Tommy Dreamer, now you want them to fire Matt Hardy and Samoa Joe too? Oh will you stop |
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Post by thetower52 on Jan 25, 2015 14:10:17 GMT -5
I would replace guys not simply release them. Guys like Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, Tyrus etc should not be there and instead should be replaced by guys who can add something to a national (lol) product. Not putting these guys down because I like Uno and Tyrus but TNA has done nothing with any of these guys. Replace them with guys from the indies or even the guys who didn't quite make it to the WWE main roster (Aka NXT "rejects") Gaburick should be receiving a shipment of DVD's every week from places like Highspots so he can scout talent. A guy like Al Snow should be sent out to scout talent and see who has the potential to "make it" and who doesn't. Apart from the occasional "name" who is too old to go back to WWE this should be who TNA focus their recruiting on. I'd use that Wrestle-1 deal to my advantage also. TNA tapes 6 weeks in advance so there really is no excuse not to add some occasional international flavour to your X-Division or other title scenes. Wrestle-1 tours could be a carrot that TNA uses to get more established independent talent to sign with them also. Is al snow even in TNA anymore ? |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 25, 2015 15:22:58 GMT -5
Dixie is the biggest piece of fat that needs trimming.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 25, 2015 15:28:34 GMT -5
Well, considering who wasn't at the tapings and who was just fired and who just appeared on another show, I think TNA has trimmed a lot of the talent.
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 25, 2015 15:46:16 GMT -5
I would replace guys not simply release them. Guys like Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, Tyrus etc should not be there and instead should be replaced by guys who can add something to a national (lol) product. Not putting these guys down because I like Uno and Tyrus but TNA has done nothing with any of these guys. Replace them with guys from the indies or even the guys who didn't quite make it to the WWE main roster (Aka NXT "rejects") Gaburick should be receiving a shipment of DVD's every week from places like Highspots so he can scout talent. A guy like Al Snow should be sent out to scout talent and see who has the potential to "make it" and who doesn't. Apart from the occasional "name" who is too old to go back to WWE this should be who TNA focus their recruiting on. I'd use that Wrestle-1 deal to my advantage also. TNA tapes 6 weeks in advance so there really is no excuse not to add some occasional international flavour to your X-Division or other title scenes. Wrestle-1 tours could be a carrot that TNA uses to get more established independent talent to sign with them also. But that list ties into the other issue instead for WHY TNA needs to replace guys, not release them. TNA's roster still has talent, but it's, by and large, been worn out by years of being...in TNA, and booked into oblivion by TNA. More than "trimming fat" or cutting talent, they need to get fresher faces primatily. That's one of the weaknesses of that list- Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, and Tyrus may not be indy darlings in the ring- but the only one on that list who's been in TNA for more than one year was Knux (even if Tyrus had been Brodus Clay before and been on TV for years beforehand)- which makes that list of people not only not the list of people to trim the fat for, but actually the people who TNA should be pushing forward as newer, fresh faces to help rejuvenate the show. The real fat that needs to be trimmed are the long-term TNA veterans who've really done all there is to do and really won't revitalize their career anymore than what they are already, not the rookies- and it's the rookies who TNA has usually cut first instead of their worn out veterans. |
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Post by americanoutlaw911 on Jan 25, 2015 18:31:06 GMT -5
Look out joe
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 25, 2015 18:51:37 GMT -5
That's one of the weaknesses of that list- Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, and Tyrus may not be indy darlings in the ring- but the only one on that list who's been in TNA for more than one year was Knux (even if Tyrus had been Brodus Clay before and been on TV for years beforehand)- which makes that list of people not only not the list of people to trim the fat for, but actually the people who TNA should be pushing forward as newer, fresh faces to help rejuvenate the show. The real fat that needs to be trimmed are the long-term TNA veterans who've really done all there is to do and really won't revitalize their career anymore than what they are already, not the rookies- and it's the rookies who TNA has usually cut first instead of their worn out veterans. The big problem is that of those six guys that you mentioned, 3 of them are pretty bad in the ring. That's the thing, the new young guys that they have are not good enough to justify being on an internationally broadcast product. |
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 25, 2015 18:53:08 GMT -5
They already got rid of Mickie James and Tommy Dreamer, now you want them to fire Matt Hardy and Samoa Joe too? Magnus: She's not fat, I got her pregnant. Dixie: You did!? No more push for you. |
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Jan 25, 2015 19:20:14 GMT -5
I would replace guys not simply release them. Guys like Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, Tyrus etc should not be there and instead should be replaced by guys who can add something to a national (lol) product. Not putting these guys down because I like Uno and Tyrus but TNA has done nothing with any of these guys. Replace them with guys from the indies or even the guys who didn't quite make it to the WWE main roster (Aka NXT "rejects") Gaburick should be receiving a shipment of DVD's every week from places like Highspots so he can scout talent. A guy like Al Snow should be sent out to scout talent and see who has the potential to "make it" and who doesn't. Apart from the occasional "name" who is too old to go back to WWE this should be who TNA focus their recruiting on. I'd use that Wrestle-1 deal to my advantage also. TNA tapes 6 weeks in advance so there really is no excuse not to add some occasional international flavour to your X-Division or other title scenes. Wrestle-1 tours could be a carrot that TNA uses to get more established independent talent to sign with them also. Is al snow even in TNA anymore ? Don't know for sure but I'm about 90% that he is an agent for them. |
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 25, 2015 20:35:47 GMT -5
That's one of the weaknesses of that list- Melendez, Crazy Steve, Mahabali Shera, Knux, Tigre Uno, and Tyrus may not be indy darlings in the ring- but the only one on that list who's been in TNA for more than one year was Knux (even if Tyrus had been Brodus Clay before and been on TV for years beforehand)- which makes that list of people not only not the list of people to trim the fat for, but actually the people who TNA should be pushing forward as newer, fresh faces to help rejuvenate the show. The real fat that needs to be trimmed are the long-term TNA veterans who've really done all there is to do and really won't revitalize their career anymore than what they are already, not the rookies- and it's the rookies who TNA has usually cut first instead of their worn out veterans. The big problem is that of those six guys that you mentioned, 3 of them are pretty bad in the ring. That's the thing, the new young guys that they have are not good enough to justify being on an internationally broadcast product. But that ties into the other problem that's gone on with trimming the fat beforehand: Fans won't accept it when they do and try to bring in new talent unless they do a full-scale raid on Ring of Honor or SHIMMER, and it's been that way for years. If they don't sign new talent, then the show stagnates and you get a roster full of guys who will never do anything there and it'll never change- but if they bring in anyone new who isn't an indy darling, then they'll immediately get painted with the "they must suck- if they were so good, how come they'd settle for TNA?" If the roster needs new talent- and the roster NEEDS IT right now- beggars can't be choosers, and if it means buying into someone who isn't there solely because they're a fresh face...heck, if it even means saying something like "fire Samoa Joe because he's also in that level of 'guys who are just stagnant in TNA', then you have to. |
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Post by Square on Jan 25, 2015 23:07:36 GMT -5
TNA needs to lock Dixie in a closet and bring in an axman to just chop a lot of deadwood off from the roster. Including people like Abyss.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 26, 2015 0:09:38 GMT -5
Well, considering who wasn't at the tapings and who was just fired and who just appeared on another show, I think TNA has trimmed a lot of the talent. True, whether or not people come in to replace them will determine how much actually changes. |
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