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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 21:56:26 GMT -5
Hasn't he? Just, zero fun, he wants the title, this business, etc.
I remember thinking how Kurt Angle was no fun, when he busted up E.G.O.'s hall of fame induction for Roode by yelling about it being disrespectful, when he was really breaking up something that was extremely entertaining. Now, Roode has become serious robot Kurt Angle.
I can respect a serious competitor, Bret Hart is my favorite wrestler ever, but a little levity once in a while would be a godsend for Roode. Maybe I've missed something over the last couple of Impacts, but for months before he has had the personality of a dead moth.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 24, 2015 22:02:12 GMT -5
Roode still hasn't found his exact niche as a babyface yet. He thinks yelling every segment is showing us that he is a "fiery" babyface. He just needs to bring it back to basics, let the fans absorb your charisma. He carries himself like a champ and looks like one. You don't have to pander as much as you got to show how much you care for the company, business, the title and properly channel that.
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Jan 24, 2015 22:10:05 GMT -5
He's a much better heel. Haven't enjoyed his face work since he turned at all.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jan 24, 2015 22:33:42 GMT -5
He needs to wear more pants to be taken seriously.
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Post by King Devitt on Feb 6, 2015 5:32:49 GMT -5
He needs to wear more pants to be taken seriously. and go back to the instrumental version of his entrance music.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 10:25:04 GMT -5
He needs to wear more pants to be taken seriously. and go back to the instrumental version of his entrance music. ACTUALLYYYY being told that he is, indeed, off the chain and will, no doubt, be going against the grain is easily my 6th favorite thing about Bobby Roode.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 6, 2015 10:27:22 GMT -5
Roode's always been a little overly dry for me in general, but as of late he just looks grumpy and miserable, even when he's got the upper hand.
Good "serious" wrestlers should also know how to come off friendly and personal outside of the ring- Bret Hart and Daniel Bryan are good examples of how to do it right, and even Orton loosens up once in a while. Roode's the type of character who would sit there and frown if a puppy started licking his face, and he'd just moan about how the puppy didn't respect DIS CUMPANY.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 6, 2015 10:29:02 GMT -5
Yeah, Roode's been pretty wack recently. Still a fantastic performer but his character isn't doing a thing for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:49:17 GMT -5
He's never been more ON the chain if you ask me.
Bobby Roode is best when he's about 2 shades shy of completely insane and delusional.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:53:49 GMT -5
Roode's always been a little overly dry for me in general, but as of late he just looks grumpy and miserable, even when he's got the upper hand. Good "serious" wrestlers should also know how to come off friendly and personal outside of the ring- Bret Hart and Daniel Bryan are good examples of how to do it right, and even Orton loosens up once in a while. Roode's the type of character who would sit there and frown if a puppy started licking his face, and he'd just moan about how the puppy didn't respect DIS CUMPANY. "Is licking me getting you any closer to a worldheavyweightchampionship?! WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING HERE!!?!?"
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 6, 2015 20:36:37 GMT -5
Roode's always been a little overly dry for me in general, but as of late he just looks grumpy and miserable, even when he's got the upper hand. Good "serious" wrestlers should also know how to come off friendly and personal outside of the ring- Bret Hart and Daniel Bryan are good examples of how to do it right, and even Orton loosens up once in a while. Roode's the type of character who would sit there and frown if a puppy started licking his face, and he'd just moan about how the puppy didn't respect DIS CUMPANY. Orton could play off that "pretty boy" smile though. Like I said before Roode needs to cut down the yelling, you can still show that passion of a champ but be humble at the same time. Could always try to make him grass roots roode again like he was when he was going after angle for the title.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Feb 8, 2015 3:12:14 GMT -5
I feel like a weird thing with a lot of TNA face turns in general is that the wrestler ends up abandoning 90% of their character to become a grumpy husk that does nothing but ramble about "respect" and "this business".
Bubba Ray Dudley in particular was so bad with this that it was actually comical.
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Post by evilone on Feb 8, 2015 8:08:13 GMT -5
I feel like a weird thing with a lot of TNA face turns in general is that the wrestler ends up abandoning 90% of their character to become a grumpy husk that does nothing but ramble about "respect" and "this business". Bubba Ray Dudley in particular was so bad with this that it was actually comical. Well due to often heel/face turns they have to turn the character upside down in order to get the cheers or the heat while in reality the 75% of the character can remain the same being heel or face. Instead they are just going for the cheep cheers that's all, and that's why you get Roode "that respects the business" kind of bs. Look at the Joe for example, poor guy cant play anybody else but a pissed off street fighter and only degree to why you like him or don't like him is either his affiliation with certain characters or change of his ways to reach the goal while the goal has always be the same: to beat the living crap out of somebody.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 8, 2015 11:51:16 GMT -5
To me he's trying to be Triple H but without a quater of the talent. You can get away with it as a heel since TNA only one serious main event heel but never works as a face since there are so many more.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 11:29:25 GMT -5
Sami Zayn is doing the whole "obsessed with the belt" thing so much better over in NXT. He's got more depth and acting chops, and there's room in there for him to smile or make a little joke.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 9, 2015 11:34:16 GMT -5
Sami Zayn is doing the whole "obsessed with the belt" thing so much better over in NXT. He's got more depth and acting chops, and there's room in there for him to smile or make a little joke. Along with Zayns' talent, there is no doubt the leadership and direction is much better in NXT then in TNA. I'm pretty sure HHH filters the ideas of Zayn, Owens, Neville and what sounds good he let's them roll with it while staying "inside the box" of what they have planned. We know Roode can have fun doesn't mean he has to be a wise ass cracking jokes but at least stop the screaming. The perfect is example is after the EY match he should of been a little happier but he was stone-faced and still screaming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 12:32:50 GMT -5
Hogan got a ton of flack for not believing in babyface Roode, but he was right on the money. The heel turn was the best thing that ever happened to Roode. He simply doesn't have it as a face. Screaming into a mic doesn't make you sound intense.
Roode's 2012 heel run was when he was at his best as a character.
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Post by benstudd on Feb 10, 2015 4:13:59 GMT -5
I said this many times months ago. But people were all like "no Roode still great". I think Roode believe too much in that no non-sense blue collar bullshit. And being a "working man wrestler who built this company". But people don't give a shit about that. They watch wrestling to see greatness and see what they cannot be. Roode should be the Ego-driven corporate guy as a heel or face.
In wrestling it's hard to find a character, Hell it's been hard even for Steve Austin to find it. He had to shave his head, then find another finisher, then lose Dibiase as manager for Stone Cold to exist. And when he got it, he stuck with it as heel or face. Roode found his character when he became "Leader of the Selfish Generation". He should never have lost it. Play himself the same as heel or face. He could be face but think like Selfish Corporate Roode would do, buy wrestlers to counter the BDC for example. Look at Eddie Guererro, he was still acting like a heel when he would "cheat and steal" and people loved him for it. Cause that was his "role" so to speak. One that people recognized.
Roode has no "Role" right now. He's just grumpy face.
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Post by evilone on Feb 10, 2015 10:42:44 GMT -5
I said this many times months ago. But people were all like "no Roode still great". I think Roode believe too much in that no non-sense blue collar bullshit. And being a "working man wrestler who built this company". But people don't give a shit about that. They watch wrestling to see greatness and see what they cannot be. Roode should be the Ego-driven corporate guy as a heel or face. In wrestling it's hard to find a character, Hell it's been hard even for Steve Austin to find it. He had to shave his head, then find another finisher, then lose Dibiase as manager for Stone Cold to exist. And when he got it, he stuck with it as heel or face. Roode found his character when he became "Leader of the Selfish Generation". He should never have lost it. Play himself the same as heel or face. He could be face but think like Selfish Corporate Roode would do, buy wrestlers to counter the BDC for example. Look at Eddie Guererro, he was still acting like a heel when he would "cheat and steal" and people loved him for it. Cause that was his "role" so to speak. One that people recognized. Roode has no "Role" right now. He's just grumpy face. They make the sharp cuts in order to get more distinction between cheers and boos, they don't want gray. That's why most of the wrestlers don't even have signature characters but rather play different characters. Most of the wrestlers could play bad guy or a good guy with the same character but it takes time to build that and TNA doesn have any. Joe and Anderson are fine examples how you can be either with minimal changes to your character.
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Post by benstudd on Feb 11, 2015 4:01:35 GMT -5
All I'm saying is just tweek the characters, not change them completely. That is why Randy Orton when he first turned face, it didn't work cause fans could not buy into him after having been such a bad guy before. It worked at some point him as a face but he had to stay as a vicious guy. Most wrestlers work YEARS to find a character that will finally get them over. So when they find it, they should stick by this character as long as they can as heel or face. Cause if they don't then they go back to their old boring self before they had found their character. Roode is boring now cause he's a blank state, he's nothing and he seems confused cause you can't work with nothing. He should go back to the Leader of the Selfish Generation. But as a face.
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