willyjakes
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Post by willyjakes on Jan 25, 2015 2:07:11 GMT -5
So instead of holding up Vince for money that wasn't paid him, cooler heads prevail, they come to an agreement, and Ultimate Warrior is on the roster for this crazy, fun period that featured Sid and Flair entering, Hogan dropping the belt to UT, beating UT for the belt...getting stripped of it, Flair with his epic Rumble win, Savage/Roberts maniacal feud, a Flair/Savage (she was mine before she was yours whooo) feud, Piper winning a belt.
So suppose Warrior is a part of this. How do you factor him in. What gets changed and rearranged?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 25, 2015 3:10:27 GMT -5
Proper program with Snake, he's filling for Macho until This Tuesday in Texas, Macho can be in his corner, don't think they was kayfabe issues with him getting a managers license. So Warrior can finish off that feud while helping to build with Macho, the cobra attack can still happen. Other than that, I can't think of much for him to be doing near the top of the card at this point.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 25, 2015 3:16:08 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 8 gives us:
Hogan vs. Flair
Sid vs. Warrior
Savage vs. Jake Roberts
Undertaker vs. Berzerker.
Either that or same card as what we got with the addition of Warrior vs Shango.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Jan 25, 2015 5:58:18 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 8 gives us: Hogan vs. Flair Sid vs. Warrior Savage vs. Jake Roberts Undertaker vs. Berzerker. Either that or same card as what we got with the addition of Warrior vs Shango. first two matches seem logical, with the addition of a Warrior vs. Roberts programme after SS91 of course (like Cole stated)...Taker vs. Berzerker I don't see happening, MAYBE Taker vs. Shango, but Shango was fairly new when WM8 came around |
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Post by What? on Jan 25, 2015 7:13:35 GMT -5
The thing I'm curious about is after Warrior was fired, was Savage asked to cut his "retirement" short and come back, or was that according to plan?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 11:58:58 GMT -5
Randy Savage (pre-reinstatement) comes to the aid of Warrior when Jake and Taker are doing something terrible to him. Jake and Taker pay him back by invading his and Liz's wedding reception after SS'91. Macho calls for his own reinstatement to get revenge against Jake. Warrior also calls for Macho's reinstatement and says that their combination is the only force in the universe powerful enough to face the darkness of Jake and Undertaker. Macho is reinstated and this sets up a big tag team match for WM8 - Macho/Warrior vs. Jake/Undertaker.
Hogan never loses the belt to Undertaker, so RR '92 is not for the title. Hogan eliminates Sid, which results in their friendship going south. Flair and Piper feud and Flair ends up eliminating Piper cheaply before Bret eliminates Flair. Bret Hart wins a star-studded Rumble to solidify himself as a major contender.
At WM8, Warrior/Macho vs. Jake/Taker is part of a big double main event. The other half is Hogan defending the belt against Sid. Also, Flair vs. Piper. The Hogan/Sid match ends controversially, so Jack Tunney strips Hogan of the belt and puts it up in a big tournament at SummerSlam. In the weeks after WM8, Jake turns on Taker on the Funeral Parlor after their losing effort to Warrior and Macho at WM.
Hogan and Sid disappear just as they did in real life.
At SS'92, Undertaker beats Jake. Davey Boy beats HBK. Tournament first round matches include Savage vs. Warrior (Savage wins by DQ), Flair vs. Piper (this time Flair wins), Bret vs. Razor (Bret), Mr. Perfect vs. Crush (Perfect). Second round is Savage vs. Flair (Flair by cheating), Bret vs. Perfect (Bret with Sharpshooter). Final is Flair vs. Bret (Flair with a rollup).
For the next year, Flair defends against Bret Hart, Randy Savage, Mr. Perfect, Ultimate Warrior... until it's Bret who finally beats him at WrestleMania X to kick off the New Generation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 12:40:57 GMT -5
The thing I'm curious about is after Warrior was fired, was Savage asked to cut his "retirement" short and come back, or was that according to plan? The Savage/Roberts feud had its seeds sown when they wouldn't let Jake into Randy's bachelor party. That was after he turned heel on Warrior in those "training" promos, IIRC, but a few weeks before SSlam. I don't think they'd have done that if there wasn't a plan already to get Savage back in the ring. So the decision to bring Savage back was either something that was happening all along, or something that was in direct reaction to the decision to fire Warrior. But no, I don't believe the timeline doesn't support Randy's return being a reaction to Warrior's actual firing; which IIRC happened backstage at SSlam at the gorilla position when Warrior chased Mustafa and Adnan away. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 27, 2015 13:45:49 GMT -5
the original plan was for DiBiase and Sherri to ruin Savage's wedding or reception and they would go into a program together after Savage was reinstated. Savage had allegedly been against the idea though so i'm not sure if he would have done it.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Jan 27, 2015 14:47:51 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 8 gives us: Hogan vs. Flair Sid vs. Warrior Savage vs. Jake Roberts Undertaker vs. Berzerker. Either that or same card as what we got with the addition of Warrior vs Shango. I love the Wrestlemania 8 we got, but if those top three matches along with Bret v Piper took place...wow! |
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 28, 2015 10:27:31 GMT -5
As stated the original idea was for Dibiase and Sherri to interrupt the wedding, which is why Sherri appeaered on the Barber Shop on the Summerslam Spectacular and addressed Savage and Liz, for what I think the first time since Wrestlemania. Saying she would slap Macho and punk on Elizabeth, apparently Savage wasnt so gung ho about coming back and doing this angle (Im guessing he was enjoying the time out) so it didnt go ahead and they did the happy ending. Or maybe he simpply wanted the happy ending and thats why it didnt go ahead.
Warrior and Roberts would have continued after Summerslam. Im guessing eventually involving Undertaker and Hogan in it as well while Savage would have stayed in the booth taking time out. (perhaps with a later idea to return) but with Warrior being fired it took Vince a fair bit of convincing to get Savage to take Warriors place in the angle and the "Snake in the Box" angle was shot after Summerslam. The footage wasnt shown on TV until early September so I would imagine Vince went into crisis talks with Savage after SS, and they shot it in the days following so fit in with the TV they had already shot.
Had he not left, and Savage HAD agreed to work with Dibiase then the main programs would be.
Hogan vs Undertaker
Warrior vs Roberts
Savage vs Dibiase
Flair vs Piper
They could have built up Sid in squashes, bear in mind his first match on TV was after Summerslam or they could have put him over Slaughter and everything else would stay the same.
The set up for Dibiase/Sherri being involved in the wedding could have been done by Savage helpin Virgil win the $$$ Title. Afterall Randy Savage was the guest referee for a match between Virgil and Dibiase at TV tapings before and after Summerslam and one of those matches made it onto one of the Home Videos.(Invasion 1992)
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Post by johnnyk9 on Feb 17, 2015 7:01:07 GMT -5
Randy Savage (pre-reinstatement) comes to the aid of Warrior when Jake and Taker are doing something terrible to him. Jake and Taker pay him back by invading his and Liz's wedding reception after SS'91. Macho calls for his own reinstatement to get revenge against Jake. Warrior also calls for Macho's reinstatement and says that their combination is the only force in the universe powerful enough to face the darkness of Jake and Undertaker. Macho is reinstated and this sets up a big tag team match for WM8 - Macho/Warrior vs. Jake/Undertaker. Hogan never loses the belt to Undertaker, so RR '92 is not for the title. Hogan eliminates Sid, which results in their friendship going south. Flair and Piper feud and Flair ends up eliminating Piper cheaply before Bret eliminates Flair. Bret Hart wins a star-studded Rumble to solidify himself as a major contender. At WM8, Warrior/Macho vs. Jake/Taker is part of a big double main event. The other half is Hogan defending the belt against Sid. Also, Flair vs. Piper. The Hogan/Sid match ends controversially, so Jack Tunney strips Hogan of the belt and puts it up in a big tournament at SummerSlam. In the weeks after WM8, Jake turns on Taker on the Funeral Parlor after their losing effort to Warrior and Macho at WM. Hogan and Sid disappear just as they did in real life. At SS'92, Undertaker beats Jake. Davey Boy beats HBK. Tournament first round matches include Savage vs. Warrior (Savage wins by DQ), Flair vs. Piper (this time Flair wins), Bret vs. Razor (Bret), Mr. Perfect vs. Crush (Perfect). Second round is Savage vs. Flair (Flair by cheating), Bret vs. Perfect (Bret with Sharpshooter). Final is Flair vs. Bret (Flair with a rollup). For the next year, Flair defends against Bret Hart, Randy Savage, Mr. Perfect, Ultimate Warrior... until it's Bret who finally beats him at WrestleMania X to kick off the New Generation. Love this, but would WWE go 5 months without a WWE Champion? House show numbers would've dropped tremendously |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 19:01:13 GMT -5
Randy Savage (pre-reinstatement) comes to the aid of Warrior when Jake and Taker are doing something terrible to him. Jake and Taker pay him back by invading his and Liz's wedding reception after SS'91. Macho calls for his own reinstatement to get revenge against Jake. Warrior also calls for Macho's reinstatement and says that their combination is the only force in the universe powerful enough to face the darkness of Jake and Undertaker. Macho is reinstated and this sets up a big tag team match for WM8 - Macho/Warrior vs. Jake/Undertaker. Hogan never loses the belt to Undertaker, so RR '92 is not for the title. Hogan eliminates Sid, which results in their friendship going south. Flair and Piper feud and Flair ends up eliminating Piper cheaply before Bret eliminates Flair. Bret Hart wins a star-studded Rumble to solidify himself as a major contender. At WM8, Warrior/Macho vs. Jake/Taker is part of a big double main event. The other half is Hogan defending the belt against Sid. Also, Flair vs. Piper. The Hogan/Sid match ends controversially, so Jack Tunney strips Hogan of the belt and puts it up in a big tournament at SummerSlam. In the weeks after WM8, Jake turns on Taker on the Funeral Parlor after their losing effort to Warrior and Macho at WM. Hogan and Sid disappear just as they did in real life. At SS'92, Undertaker beats Jake. Davey Boy beats HBK. Tournament first round matches include Savage vs. Warrior (Savage wins by DQ), Flair vs. Piper (this time Flair wins), Bret vs. Razor (Bret), Mr. Perfect vs. Crush (Perfect). Second round is Savage vs. Flair (Flair by cheating), Bret vs. Perfect (Bret with Sharpshooter). Final is Flair vs. Bret (Flair with a rollup). For the next year, Flair defends against Bret Hart, Randy Savage, Mr. Perfect, Ultimate Warrior... until it's Bret who finally beats him at WrestleMania X to kick off the New Generation. Love this, but would WWE go 5 months without a WWE Champion? House show numbers would've dropped tremendously Why? |
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