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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 26, 2015 17:39:52 GMT -5
Reigns vs Lesnar sounds f***ing terrible Sting vs HHH is plain hype. I'm looking forward to it. Cena vs Rusev - Would rather the Ryback/Rusev feud actually happen instead. Cenawinslol in action. Orton vs Rollins sounds like a fun match, actually. Sheamus vs Bryan..... Just why? I like both guys but seriously. Stop trying to make it a thing. Pretty much
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Johnny Flamingo
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jan 26, 2015 17:45:17 GMT -5
Card looks pretty solid. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar - could be good if booked properly Sting vs. Triple H - Both men are excellent workers and could have the match of the night. What world do you live in where Sting is an excellent worker? He hasn't even been consistently good since the mid 90s. And he'll be 56. As for Reigns/Brock, I honestly don't see any way it can be good. Brock needs a guy that can either work off his brutality or use his strengths against him. The guy who wrestles like a teenager spamming running movies in Here Comes the Pain is not that. Sting knows how to work a match and is good at playing the crowd. I thought he looked pretty good despite his age during his run in TNA and I enjoyed his match with Foley (Lockdown) and thought while it wasn't technically perfect it was a well paced and well thought out match. HHH is one of the better ring generals in the business. HHH and Sting both have enough experience that I have no doubt that they can tear the house down. As far as Brock - Reigns they need to book it like Togi Makabe and Tomohiro Ishii from WK9 and they'll have a good match. Only tough thing for them will be getting the crowd to emotionally invest in the match.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jan 26, 2015 17:46:05 GMT -5
The winners are all as predictable as ever though really aren't they? No drama or suspense or intrigue.
Reigns wins and Brock leaves WWE.
Sting obviously wins since no way he's coming to WWE just to lose.
Cena surely hands Rusev his first loss because he's Cena.
Orton vs Rollins would probably be a good match but I'd assume Rollins would win.
Then Bryan wins a meaningless match as a token gesture to appease the rabid mob of fans.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 26, 2015 18:53:28 GMT -5
What world do you live in where Sting is an excellent worker? He hasn't even been consistently good since the mid 90s. And he'll be 56. As for Reigns/Brock, I honestly don't see any way it can be good. Brock needs a guy that can either work off his brutality or use his strengths against him. The guy who wrestles like a teenager spamming running movies in Here Comes the Pain is not that. Sting knows how to work a match and is good at playing the crowd. I thought he looked pretty good despite his age during his run in TNA and I enjoyed his match with Foley (Lockdown) and thought while it wasn't technically perfect it was a well paced and well thought out match. HHH is one of the better ring generals in the business. HHH and Sting both have enough experience that I have no doubt that they can tear the house down. As far as Brock - Reigns they need to book it like Togi Makabe and Tomohiro Ishii from WK9 and they'll have a good match. Only tough thing for them will be getting the crowd to emotionally invest in the match. His match with Foley was SIX years ago. He was brutal those last few years, and even if he has been working out non stop for eons, he still is extremely unlikely to be anywhere close to good. Triple H can carry a guy if need be, but that only works if his opponent is smaller than him. They might have a passable match, but there is no way in hell a 56 year old and a 45 year old are tearing the house down. Don't give Flair/Shawn as a counterexample either, that match was based almost purely on emotion and they had years upon years of history. Sting/HHH have no history at all. As for Brock/Reigns being like Makabe/Ishii...uhh, I don't see how that can work at all. I liked that match just fine, but it was short as shit and stiff. Reigns is not a stiff worker at all. It would basically have to be the shortest match since Bam Bam/Lawrence Taylor.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 27, 2015 6:45:18 GMT -5
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I'm experiencing buyers remorse.
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Post by Burst on Jan 27, 2015 6:55:38 GMT -5
Um, as much as I like Wyatt, having him as the Undertaker's opponent this year after Lesnar last year is like matching up Floyd Mayweather with some random dude from the Mid-Ohio Valley Toughman Contest.
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Post by CM Parish on Jan 27, 2015 7:03:28 GMT -5
All of those matches would be excellent and quality wise the show could down as one of the greats.
But nothing excites me, like I was legit excited for Lesnar/Cena/Rollins. I wouldn't be excited for any of that,
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jan 27, 2015 7:06:51 GMT -5
This looks like Banther Fodder.
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Post by DSR on Jan 27, 2015 7:07:01 GMT -5
More like Wrestle Meh-nia, right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 7:19:09 GMT -5
I already decided I won't watch this year, if this is the actual card this just cements and justifies my decision even further. The only way I'm even going to consider watching Mania this year is if they do major damage control and change the card like last year.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 27, 2015 7:23:47 GMT -5
Well, I guess Orton is getting his win back.
The only thing that would make me happy as a Rollins fan is if he cashed in that night at Mania, but after Raw I'm starting to think that won't happen, as in WWE doesn't have the balls to pull a successful cash in.
So yeah...the one guy I'm invested in Rollins is wrestling a guy who mostly wins all of big matches and probably won't do anything else significant that night.
But I suppose that Phoenix Splash into an RKO will be AMAAAAAAAAAAAAZING.
Pass.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 27, 2015 8:57:52 GMT -5
I remember after the Rumble last year I went into a bunch of threads and said "Guys, WWE is stupid for what they did, but they're not suicidal; they'll find a way to put Bryan into the main event at Mania XXX." Like, yeah, the moment didn't have the impact it would have had they clearly been behind Bryan from the get-go and had him win the Rumble, but after how badly the crowd crapped on last year's Rumble you just knew they wouldn't risk having the same reaction for Wrestlemania, not when there'd be 60,000+ people there and their biggest supercard audience at home.
This year...I don't know. I feel like this was an experiment to see if they could "break" the crowd. "Hey, you complained last year and we threw you a bone; go ahead and complain this year, but it ain't happening." It's like they want to push the crowd from being angry to simply experiencing tired resignation...which is pretty clearly not what you want your fanbase feeling like going into your biggest show of the year.
And especially if they do wind up doing Bryan vs. Sheamus (and I'm not sure they will, that's just speculation from this news), the crowd might get bloodthirsty, unless WWE succeeds in "breaking" them between now and 'Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 9:10:47 GMT -5
I remember after the Rumble last year I went into a bunch of threads and said "Guys, WWE is stupid for what they did, but they're not suicidal; they'll find a way to put Bryan into the main event at Mania XXX." Like, yeah, the moment didn't have the impact it would have had they clearly been behind Bryan from the get-go and had him win the Rumble, but after how badly the crowd crapped on last year's Rumble you just knew they wouldn't risk having the same reaction for Wrestlemania, not when there'd be 60,000+ people there and their biggest supercard audience at home. This year...I don't know. I feel like this was an experiment to see if they could "break" the crowd. "Hey, you complained last year and we threw you a bone; go ahead and complain this year, but it ain't happening." It's like they want to push the crowd from being angry to simply experiencing tired resignation...which is pretty clearly not what you want your fanbase feeling like going into your biggest show of the year. And especially if they do wind up doing Bryan vs. Sheamus (and I'm not sure they will, that's just speculation from this news), the crowd might get bloodthirsty, unless WWE succeeds in "breaking" them between now and 'Mania. I have the feeling in the next few weeks, it's going to get like it was after when Bryan cut that promo asking the fans to support him in facing Triple H, where the crowd goes completely comotose out of just giving up. I hope it doesn't though. I want the crowd to make the next eight weeks of their lives utter hell.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 27, 2015 9:27:38 GMT -5
Not going to lie, I almost want to see Cranky Old Vince win out.
"Hey, nerds, GET OFF MY LAWN! I'M VINCE McMAHON, DAMNIT!"
I know you all think that it's just trolling to try to be different, but it's not.
I really do find it kind of interesting to watch Vince put his foot down, dig his heels in, stick his fingers in his ears, and refuse to let the fans play with his toys.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 27, 2015 9:31:10 GMT -5
Why do I get the greasy feeling that a possible Sheamus vs Bryan gig would just end up with the latter winning in less than 18 seconds?
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Post by Freddy BooJangles on Jan 27, 2015 9:37:34 GMT -5
-BrockZilla vs Roman Reigns sounds awful (much rather see Mr. Reigns get the same beating that Cena got at Summerslam 2014) -Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt-We should've gotten this match at last year's WrestleMania -HHH vs Sting-pretty much the most noteworthy thing about this WM -Cena vs Russev-Better than Ryback vs Russev I suppose -Orton vs Rollins-2 big brats sounds good on paper -Sheamus vs Bryan-Again?
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Post by gr1990 on Jan 27, 2015 9:43:23 GMT -5
You just KNOW Orton is going over Rollins, Cena is going over Rusev, Reigns will probably be shat on thus gaining nothing from beating Lesnar... the only 'new star' who may be created is Wyatt if he beats Taker, and he only needs that treatment cos Cena buried him starting from last year's Mania. Sting is 55, he had his first match before Seth Rollins was born, and he's what's selling the show to most people. How did we get here?
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Jan 27, 2015 10:00:10 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar / Roman Reigns - I think this match could be good if they embraced the crowd's disdain for Reigns and went full on douche heel with him. Make him a completely egotistical jerk with the family pedigree and the high impact offense. Attacking Lesnar in the lead up and weakening the ribs would be a good move, so they could just come right out and say that's the money shot, spear to the injured ribs. If he hits, Lesnar's going down. Meanwhile, Lesnar could get the pops the whole way through to the end, then they could move forward with Reigns defending against Rollins at a later date (maybe an attempted cash-in on Raw?)
Sting / Triple H - Two guys who know what they're doing and could have a really good match, if it's a short encounter. Triple H can carry Sting in the ring and Sting can work the crowd. It's not a bad combination.
John Cena / Rusev - I honestly think that they might have Cena do the job to Rusev, if only just because I could see Vince wanting someone else (Reigns or possibly Orton) to be the one to end his streak.
Randy Orton / Seth Rollins - I agree that this could be the match of the night if both guys are on top of their game. No run-ins and no shenanigans would be a definite plus, regardless of who wins out. And yes, a phoenix splash into an RKO would be pretty sweet. Not to mention, if Rollins beats Orton then he can cash-in on Reigns the following night on Raw, lose via shenanigans, then feud with Reigns on the point that he's already beaten one "golden boy" he can do it again. Then Rollins and Reigns can trade the belt over the summer til one of them drops it to Bryan at SummerSlam.
Sheamus / Daniel Bryan - They've been wanting to do the match for years now. Both guys have good chemistry and it would probably be a great matchup. And it would hopefully make up for the 18 seconds incident (which was still kind of hilarious to me) by letting them have a solid match with some decent time.
Sorry for the long post.
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Post by King Boo on Jan 27, 2015 10:17:59 GMT -5
So say this card sticks/is the actual lineup and not total BS:
Remember way back in October when some of us got told that the shit end to the Ambrose/Rollins HIAC match was no big deal, because they were CLEARLY saving the blowoff match for Mania?
Yea. Awesome. Glad that enjoyable storyline ended in such a grand, wonderful fashion, then.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 27, 2015 10:20:54 GMT -5
Mark my words...Orton vs Rollins steals the PPV.
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