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Post by Glitch on Jan 26, 2015 20:21:37 GMT -5
The best way to compete against the wwe is not to compete.
By that I mean put on a good show and let the E collapse under it's own mediocrity. The only reason you should offer a contract to a wwe talent is if they fit into your plans. Otherwise, hiring popular wrestlers for the sake of having popular wrestlers is a huge waste of money(see WCW).
Basing your company on what another one does is why Dixie has led tna into what it is right now. Not doing this is why Lucha Underground is doing an amazing job.
The only way any wrestling company truly goes out of business is from the inside.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:51:16 GMT -5
No. They are far more stable now than they were when they were facing off against WCW.
As bad as WCW got, they were never at any risk of going bankrupt. They simply ceased producing television because the network was not interested in broadcasting wrestling anymore.
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 27, 2015 6:28:56 GMT -5
Dolph, Ryback, Bryan, Ambrose, Cesaro, Swagger, Kofi, Bad News, Cody all leave. Enjoy RAW with what's left. Why the hell would Bryan leave? They gave this guy the world last year, he's a 5 time World Champion, MITB winner, and gets to also be on another non-wrestling tv show. He wouldn't leave just because they decided to go with someone else this year, especially when everyone knows he'll be champion again at some point. Exactly. If there were a second option and they were legit competition then you can bet your bottom dollar they would push the hell out of Bryan. He's their ace in the hole, the golden ticket they can afford to misuse. Bryan would be champion, the man, and carry the company on his back. They wouldn't be pushing Roman Reigns because with real competition they wouldn't have the luxury of pushing whoever they felt like. They would have to go with guaranteed popularity to stay in the ratings, and guaranteed money to stay as profitable. Bryan fits both of those. He would finally be given the ball.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 27, 2015 6:30:24 GMT -5
Not that easily. They're still the brand in wrestling. It'll take some time before a competitor can even get close to WWE. No matter how little of a damn the WWE gives about their fans.
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 27, 2015 6:46:01 GMT -5
Here's a side question; who would jump ship from the WWE and who would stay? Dolph, Ryback, Bryan, Ambrose, Cesaro, Swagger, Kofi, Bad News, Cody all leave. Enjoy RAW with what's left. This is the catch-22, though. A big player, and a player that WANTS to be big, wouldn't try to steal the undercarders and misused people that people wanted to see succeed. WCW had managed to get Ricky Steamboat and Rick Rude while they were on the rise- but once Eric Bischoff got money, he focused solely on trying to steal WWF's big names and not even bothering with the undercarders in favor of cheaper homegrowns. Same with TNA- for their reputation of stealing from WWE, they only stole undercarders because they fit more with TNA's planned aura of "the better alternative for top young talent" instead. If a real, big player tried competing, you'd be more likely to see "Big Player X signs Randy Orton to an 8-figure deal" and "Big Player X just handed a blank check to John Cena and said "Just write a number down and it's yours." then you would see them stealing the hot young midcarders...and WWE knows this as well.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 27, 2015 7:14:17 GMT -5
no. it would take a long time. however, if they had a real competitor putting out a better product and getting competitive ratings, and still refused to listen to the fans, yeah, they'd be in a lot of trouble.
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Post by Dang! on Jan 27, 2015 7:21:53 GMT -5
Here's a side question; who would jump ship from the WWE and who would stay? Depends on what the competition wants. If the competition would offer them good spots I guess Cesaro, Adam Rose, Tyson Kidd, Bryan and Ziggler would jump. They'd also have Punk and Justin Gabriel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 7:47:51 GMT -5
Here's a side question; who would jump ship from the WWE and who would stay? Depends on what the competition wants. If the competition would offer them good spots I guess Cesaro, Adam Rose, Tyson Kidd, Bryan and Ziggler would jump. They'd also have Punk and Justin Gabriel. Zero chance Bryan would jump. Zero.
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Post by Dang! on Jan 27, 2015 7:56:24 GMT -5
Why the hell would Bryan leave? They gave this guy the world last year, he's a 5 time World Champion Wat? He was WWE Champ last year and WHC champ before Sheamus squashed him. 5 times? When?
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Post by Brian Suntan on Jan 27, 2015 8:08:29 GMT -5
21 people (and counting) are living in a dreamworld.
The WWF that WCW were able to compete with (briefly) is unrecognisable from the global brand that the WWE now is. The WWE is the be all and end all of mainstream professional wrestling. There is nobody coming with billions of dollars to save you from Vince's shitty booking. Besides (as has already been intimated a few posts up) said billionaire would be far more interested in poaching the Big Show and Randy Orton than he would Cesaro and Dolph Ziggler.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 27, 2015 8:17:35 GMT -5
I know it's been said but people really think a big time new promotion would go after Cesaro before a guy like Cena?
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Jan 27, 2015 8:48:29 GMT -5
I doubt it because WWE has it's very loyal fanbase who will always watch it despite how "bad" it is, you can tell these the greatness of other talent and other companies but to alot of people if it isn't WWE, then it doesn't matter.
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Post by cool guy on Jan 27, 2015 13:43:45 GMT -5
I know it's been said but people really think a big time new promotion would go after Cesaro before a guy like Cena? I think people are just assuming that Cena's probably never going to jump ship from the company that put him firmly at the top for ten years. On the other hand, I could definitely see, say, Randy Orton running off to do something new if you offer him a decent amount of money.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jan 28, 2015 12:44:37 GMT -5
If only some corporation with a bunch of money, like Panda Energy, could hire some underutilized exWWE wrestlers and restart the Monday Night Wars! But what great wrestling mind would they hire to run in? My ears are ringing"
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 28, 2015 12:50:44 GMT -5
21 people (and counting) are living in a dreamworld. The WWF that WCW were able to compete with (briefly) is unrecognisable from the global brand that the WWE now is. The WWE is the be all and end all of mainstream professional wrestling. There is nobody coming with billions of dollars to save you from Vince's shitty booking. Besides (as has already been intimated a few posts up) said billionaire would be far more interested in poaching the Big Show and Randy Orton than he would Cesaro and Dolph Ziggler. If Big Show and Randy Orton are able to go somewhere else, that opens up spots in WWE for someone to move up
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Post by Brian Suntan on Jan 28, 2015 15:02:56 GMT -5
21 people (and counting) are living in a dreamworld. The WWF that WCW were able to compete with (briefly) is unrecognisable from the global brand that the WWE now is. The WWE is the be all and end all of mainstream professional wrestling. There is nobody coming with billions of dollars to save you from Vince's shitty booking. Besides (as has already been intimated a few posts up) said billionaire would be far more interested in poaching the Big Show and Randy Orton than he would Cesaro and Dolph Ziggler. If Big Show and Randy Orton are able to go somewhere else, that opens up spots in WWE for someone to move up Of course, but the question was would this hypothetical company kill the WWE, with the idea being they'd kill it by doing right all that WWE is percieved to be doing wrong.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 28, 2015 15:03:56 GMT -5
No, because they'd adapt accordingly. There's, uhh, some precedence for this, in case anyone forgot.
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