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Post by whtbldclls on Jan 30, 2015 19:47:21 GMT -5
Outside a horrid Submission Wrestling shirt HEY! I own that shirt! and I would like to! That shirt is awesome..
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 30, 2015 19:53:42 GMT -5
and I would like to! That shirt is awesome.. I got mine when they were phasing them out so it was only $5. All they had left that would fit was 4X so it make me feel thin.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jan 30, 2015 19:57:21 GMT -5
"This is just smarkbait guys move along!"
-5 pages later-
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Post by angryfan on Jan 30, 2015 20:04:39 GMT -5
This, I have trouble believing this, even I try to go all ab-psych on it.
I guess the theory would be that since Bryan is over, they don't have to do anything or give him any high profile match, and might as well go on to focusing on their pet project in Reigns since he has the attributes they want in a top guy. Problem is, of course, that if it doesn't work, and by some miracle (to them) Bryan stops being so damn popular, then they're doubly screwed. They "proved" (by shoddy booking and constant reminders by the "real stars") that Bryan isn't at the level a top guy should be and, in the double failure scenario, Reigns doesn't take off like a hamster that was just fed a bottle of hot sauce. Thus, they are back to "the only guy we can trust is Cena" and then prey that he doesn't break down.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 30, 2015 20:11:07 GMT -5
That is some of the newziest newz to have ever newzed. Lazy smarkbait designed to inflame the temperament. But on the other hand, even if this is made-up, is it that far from the truth? Reigns isn't the first person Vince forced upon us, just look at the damn enar decade Cena's been the top guy with so little wanting it, and then the Reign of Terror before that.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jan 30, 2015 20:20:25 GMT -5
Austin´s look was more marketable. Bryan looks like a unwashed hobo. Bryan would be doing a lot better in WWE, if he cut his hair and beard. But then Brie Bella won't have sex with him anymore. well he should be used to that, he knows the rules- "you can look but you can;t touch."
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Post by Dean-o on Jan 30, 2015 20:22:38 GMT -5
Sounds like smark bait to add fuel to the fire.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jan 30, 2015 20:24:23 GMT -5
It is entirely possible. Since his return it seems like a lot of things have been SD focused. Someone else on here suggested a return to the brand split and it might have some merit actually. Let Reigns fight the Authority and all that nonsense on Raw, while Bryan has more serious wrestling on SD. The problem is that it is the B-Show, and it always will be. hey don;t count out bryan. he could pull it all the way up to a B+ show if he tries!
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 30, 2015 20:25:51 GMT -5
That is some of the newziest newz to have ever newzed. Lazy smarkbait designed to inflame the temperament. But on the other hand, even if this is made-up, is it that far from the truth? Reigns isn't the first person Vince forced upon us, just look at the damn enar decade Cena's been the top guy with so little wanting it, and then the Reign of Terror before that. Or Batista winning the Rumble last year.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 30, 2015 20:26:55 GMT -5
I'd have no problem with watching the Ziggler Vs. Bryan match and then shutting off the rest of the show. Hell, why not double down, WWE, and put that match on the preshow. I f***ing dare you.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jan 30, 2015 20:27:38 GMT -5
Vince McMahon could give George Lucas lessons on how to piss off giant segments of the audience while still raking in huge amounts of cash.
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Post by CH Punk on Jan 30, 2015 20:30:36 GMT -5
I do see their point, he's nearing the end of his career, you don't give a guy who's nearly Cena's age Cenas spot as the franchise, you want to give it to one of the younger talents so you don't have to find the next franchise for a long while. I see Bryan as this generations Mick Foley, a Veteran who towards the tail end of his career finally gets a big WWE run and gets over as rover but is never the "face of the company". Bryan is 33. Foley was 33 when he won the WWF Title from Rock. Not saying that I agree with his sentiment that Bryan can only be a transitional guy, but his analogy does work. Also, this is my biggest issue with Reigns' superglued rocket, why keep doing a thing poorly when they could take their time and build him up right? Instead of jamming him into the main event with about zero practice, how about they do what they did with Austin and take the title match away from him, give him a spotlighted match at Mania and spend the rest of 2015 getting him ready for his coronation at what's sure to be the largest WrestleMania of all time. That way, unless he bombs terribly and proves everyone who ever saw something in him wrong (which I strongly, strongly doubt), he'll probably win over people if he can have good matches and can show improvement in every department and actually be able to be that top face. Right now, if they do stay on the Reigns train, he's going to be on the path to being the next in a long line of forced pushes that died rather than the next top star. There might be a need to find a new guy to replace Cena, but if they weren't doing that the last three years, one more year won't hurt.
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Post by Catchphrase! on Jan 30, 2015 20:35:02 GMT -5
Didn't Meltzer mention the same thing in a recent podcast with Chris Jericho?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 30, 2015 20:49:52 GMT -5
WWE need to realise that they don't need to make Bryan the face of the company, they just need to capitalise on him while he's hot.
Cena's got a couple more years left in him at least, and Bryan is the hottest commodity they've had in at least a decade. Make the most of that while it lasts, and use that time to gradually build up Reigns to fulfil his potential. Jim Ross used to hammer home the point on commentary, "This guy has a lot of potential, but you can't get by on potential alone." Reigns has potential, but right now that's literally all he's got, so he needs more time.
Sadly, I think WWE are counting on the crowds to eventually realise they won't sway how WWE thinks and operates and stop pushing for Bryan the same way they did for Ryder. The question is whether those fans will simply give up on Bryan, or give up on the product itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 20:54:34 GMT -5
I love these threads so much the people who blindly defend WWE despite a thousand replies destroying their defense and the people who actually believe they can change WWE's mind these just make my day.Honestly if you want something different support a alternative because WWE has no real reason to change right now.
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Post by molson5 on Jan 30, 2015 21:03:41 GMT -5
I don't believe "wrestlinginc" has real sources, they're speculating after watching the show and reading Meltzer.
They might be right, at least right now. But it's silly to think anything is set in stone. They probably don't want to do the Bryan getting-into-the-main-event angle again, but I wouldn't be surprised if the shook things up some other way.
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Post by bluemeii on Jan 30, 2015 21:04:02 GMT -5
edit : dammit Molson
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2015 21:04:13 GMT -5
WWE need to realise that they don't need to make Bryan the face of the company, they just need to capitalise on him while he's hot. Cena's got a couple more years left in him at least, and Bryan is the hottest commodity they've had in at least a decade. Make the most of that while it lasts, and use that time to gradually build up Reigns to fulfil his potential. Jim Ross used to hammer home the point on commentary, "This guy has a lot of potential, but you can't get by on potential alone." Reigns has potential, but right now that's literally all he's got, so he needs more time. Sadly, I think WWE are counting on the crowds to eventually realise they won't sway how WWE thinks and operates and stop pushing for Bryan the same way they did for Ryder. The question is whether those fans will simply give up on Bryan, or give up on the product itself. Bryan DOESN'T need to be be the "Face of the Company", but the problem is that with the way WWE books things, making him that guy is the only way it would look like WWE gives a damn about him. Cena gets a great deal of focus. Even when Punk was playing second fiddle to Cena as champion, and even when he was spinning his wheels after turning face again, still got a good deal of TV time and focus. If Bryan doesn't get similar treatment, He's basically just another interchangeable "top guy" like Sheamus, Henry, Big Show, Kane, Orton when he's not in the main angle, Ziggler, or Miz: someone who gets a regular spot on RAW every week and PPVs, moderate lipservice of being a "top star" by the announcers, but is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by molson5 on Jan 30, 2015 21:04:42 GMT -5
Honestly if you want something different support a alternative because WWE has no real reason to change right now. People talk about "alternatives", but the fact that so many people can't enjoy a Daniel Bryan match unless it's the main even of Wrestlemania for the championship shows you why indies draw so poorly and aren't a real alternative at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 21:07:03 GMT -5
Honestly if you want something different support a alternative because WWE has no real reason to change right now. People talk about "alternatives", but the fact that so many people can't enjoy a Daniel Bryan match unless it's the main even of Wrestlemania for the championship shows you why indies draw so poorly and aren't a real alternative at all. Kinda of my point everybody wants something different but nobody wants something different i mean if your really aren't enjoying WWE anymore move on nothings gonna change.
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