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Post by bmfjules on Jan 31, 2015 15:08:15 GMT -5
And has an old school Hogan-esq 2 to 3 year run, would it have not gotten over? I remember as an 8 year old kid at the time really digging Luger alot during this period (not quite as much as I loved Sid Justice two years earlier, but that's another thread...) so would Luger have been able to become the new Hogan like Vince at some point must have wanted or would it have gone over like the fart in church that everyone else seemed to think?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 31, 2015 15:20:30 GMT -5
It wouldn't have worked long term. Luger was talented, but the Hogan-esque character wasn't a good fit for him at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 15:27:00 GMT -5
I don't know if he would have been another Hogan but I do believe had Luger won the title, his momentum would have been greater than being known as the guy who had the most celebrated count-out victory in history. I can't see a 2 or 3 year run regardless. I saw that if there was an ending, it would have been no later than WrestleMania X with Bret Hart winning the belt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 15:31:43 GMT -5
No real effect. People overestimate the importance of titles. Lex Luger was Lex Luger, regardless of whether or not he wore a toy belt around his waist. In this case, he was Lex Luger being used in a capacity that played to none of his strengths as a performer. In terms of business, it was really not that important at this point in time who wore the belt. The limiting factor was that they didn't have anyone who was capable of succeeding Hogan as their big marquee star.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 31, 2015 17:20:18 GMT -5
Luger winning the title would have been a cool moment. Then have him drop it to Yoko at Survivor Series, then continue as it happened.
Why not?
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Post by Goldenbane on Jan 31, 2015 17:25:13 GMT -5
There were two things that brought me into the wrestling fan fold...one was the Bret Hart family feud angle with Owen Hart, and the other was...All American Lex Luger. For me, personally, I would have enjoyed the All American champion stuff, as I wasn't a fan during the Hogan years and missed out on all that. However, ultimately, it would have made no difference for business. Wrestling was in a big slump, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. From about 93 to around 96 people just weren't into wrestling. I consider myself an oddity for getting into it during that time period (I was never a fan before). Overall people didn't care anymore, and long time fans had left for a time to pursue other interests. Luger was never going to be the guy to reignite interest in wrestling, especially as a Hulk Hogan type clone.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 31, 2015 17:34:41 GMT -5
I voted for slight improvement mainly because I loathed the entire Yokozuna title run. So anything to break it up is an improvement. That said, Luger wouldn't have held it for all that long. They would have put it back on Yoko to do the UT feud in early 1994, with Luger/Bret being the two former champs now vying for the Rumble win. The long term booking is essentially the same with Bret coming out with the title at WM X, so it baffles me as to why they didn't just give Luger a brief title run to justify his insane push.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 31, 2015 17:35:12 GMT -5
He gets viewed kind of like Sid in terms of effective WWE Champions. Believable champ. Not an embarrassment. Not one of the best.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2015 17:36:31 GMT -5
Winning the title? Would have probably helped matters somewhat.
2-3 year long reign? I think that times had already moved way from that as being viable for the most part.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 31, 2015 17:39:21 GMT -5
I've never understood why they didn't put the title on him, considering he was their Hogan replacement. Summerslam 93 was the perfect place to do it, if they were ever going to.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 31, 2015 23:19:12 GMT -5
No real effect, Luger wasn't that over to turn things around, but he absolutely needed the win at SS93, he didn't get it, made himself look like a doofus, so down the card for him. Bret and Shawn were on their way up, things worked out for the best anyway.
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Post by thegame415 on Feb 1, 2015 0:00:43 GMT -5
He drops it to Yokozuna at Rumble. Bret wins the Rumble. WM says the same.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 1, 2015 3:00:53 GMT -5
He drops it to Yokozuna at Rumble. Bret wins the Rumble. WM says the same. Except, who does Luger face at Mania? It can't be Borga because of Borga's injury. Your heel options are IRS, Jeff Jarrett, Rick Martel, Fatu, Samu, Kwang, Diesel and Mr. Perfect. Your face options (who you conceivably could turn heel, but you only have two months between Rumble and Mania) are 1-2-3 Kid, Smoking Gunns, Tatanka, Virgil and Bob "Sparky Plugg" Holly. You can't bring anyone in because you logistically would only have 8 weeks to introduce a new character and prep them for a marque match at the biggest show of the year, which doesn't work. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 1, 2015 3:08:00 GMT -5
He needed to win the title. He looked like a fool celebrating a countout win.
He could have dropped the title back to Yoko at Survivor Series after Fuji throws salt in his eyes.
The Royal Rumble could then play out as it did.
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Post by thegame415 on Feb 1, 2015 16:45:31 GMT -5
He drops it to Yokozuna at Rumble. Bret wins the Rumble. WM says the same. Except, who does Luger face at Mania? It can't be Borga because of Borga's injury. Your heel options are IRS, Jeff Jarrett, Rick Martel, Fatu, Samu, Kwang, Diesel and Mr. Perfect. Your face options (who you conceivably could turn heel, but you only have two months between Rumble and Mania) are 1-2-3 Kid, Smoking Gunns, Tatanka, Virgil and Bob "Sparky Plugg" Holly. You can't bring anyone in because you logistically would only have 8 weeks to introduce a new character and prep them for a marque match at the biggest show of the year, which doesn't work. I mean that Luger gets a rematch, the rubber match, at Mania while Bret faces Owen. It all is the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 16:52:59 GMT -5
He drops it to Yokozuna at Rumble. Bret wins the Rumble. WM says the same. Except, who does Luger face at Mania? It can't be Borga because of Borga's injury. Your heel options are IRS, Jeff Jarrett, Rick Martel, Fatu, Samu, Kwang, Diesel and Mr. Perfect. Your face options (who you conceivably could turn heel, but you only have two months between Rumble and Mania) are 1-2-3 Kid, Smoking Gunns, Tatanka, Virgil and Bob "Sparky Plugg" Holly. You can't bring anyone in because you logistically would only have 8 weeks to introduce a new character and prep them for a marque match at the biggest show of the year, which doesn't work. They could go the 8-Man tag route with Luger, Tatanka and Smoking Gunns vs. Jarrett, IRS, Headshrinkers. In the end, Luger gained nothing from his match with Yoko and the startup of a feud with Hennig that went nowhere. The 8-man tag as an opener to the PPV with Luger's team getting their hands raised at the end could have been a good opener. The bad things it seemed like they had already decided by that point that they weren't going to do anything with Luger beyond use him as a glorified midcarder, so instead of giving him tainted count-out wins over main eventers, why not give him some glory in the midcard and maybe the I-C title later? |
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Post by ICBM on Feb 1, 2015 21:28:12 GMT -5
Drops it back to Yoko and in turn Yoko drops to Bret anyway
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Post by Nickybojelais on Feb 1, 2015 21:28:43 GMT -5
He drops it to Yokozuna at Rumble. Bret wins the Rumble. WM says the same. Except, who does Luger face at Mania? It can't be Borga because of Borga's injury. Your heel options are IRS, Jeff Jarrett, Rick Martel, Fatu, Samu, Kwang, Diesel and Mr. Perfect. Your face options (who you conceivably could turn heel, but you only have two months between Rumble and Mania) are 1-2-3 Kid, Smoking Gunns, Tatanka, Virgil and Bob "Sparky Plugg" Holly. You can't bring anyone in because you logistically would only have 8 weeks to introduce a new character and prep them for a marque match at the biggest show of the year, which doesn't work. Bam Bam Bigelow? At least we are spared the Mixed tag debacle that way. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 2, 2015 0:33:25 GMT -5
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 2, 2015 7:07:04 GMT -5
I've never understood why they didn't put the title on him, considering he was their Hogan replacement. Summerslam 93 was the perfect place to do it, if they were ever going to. They wanted it to be at Mania, since that's the big event. That's when you crown the new top guy, Austin, Cena, Bryan if it had worked out. Summerslam has never really been a big game changer in main events, only with Brock's first title off the top of my head, other times they've put it off till the next night (HHH) or immediately ruined it (Orton). |
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