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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 20, 2015 8:33:22 GMT -5
TNA does and has desperately needed a face since it's inception pretty much. AJ was close but that was more bestowed on him by the fans than the office. At this point they're going to have to find some guys with good looks and see if any of them get over. Since most Indy wrestlers will avoid TNA they'll have to sign athletes, bodybuilders, anyone that looks the part, train them and hope for the best. It should have been Monte Brown though, that dude was the real deal. I don't see athletes, bodybuilders, random people off the street jumping into wrestling unless it's for WWE or for their hometown's local indy. But someone already working in the indies (or even the dreaded "WWE rejects") would probably sign with TNA just for the love of the art of wrestling. I'm sure there's a good looking, skilled, unsigned indy wrestler out there somewhere who would like to jump to TNA. As bad as TNA is now, it's still a nationally television promotion, and TNA is a lot more lenient on talents taking indy bookings than they were in the past. I'm sure any young wrestler would gladly be the face of TNA with the proper incentives. TNA is career poison. It used to be that if you were an undersized yet talented wrestler or didn't fit the mold of what WWE was looking for, TNA was your destination. But WWE's hiring practice and look of the main roster changed. You can make a solid career working the indies and internationally. You don't need to be on tv to do it since the way people consume wrestling has changed. Not that many wrestlers will be willing to give up control of their career destiny to a company that killed so many sure things. TNA used to have the lure of working tv to increase your bookings. But Impact on Destination America is seen by just as folks who watch Wrestling with Death. Folks who take the plunge with TNA are either recent ex-WWE folks, people who burned their bridges with a number of companies, or not good enough for primetime. Havok and Britney had good amount of hype and promise before coming to TNA. Once they showed up, they got exposed. Or Khoya who is green as f*** but since TNA doesn't have a developmental or agents who know how to help talent grow, he's going to suffer and gain a negative stigma.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 16:12:12 GMT -5
They had their own chances, they blew it.
They could have reinvented WWE hand-me-downs, they blew them, as well.
A main problem with TNA is that they love their heels, as bad guys get pushed more & are better protected than their good guy counterparts. And they never had a consistent top babyface who could have become a mega star.
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Post by 4real on Feb 21, 2015 12:14:24 GMT -5
Styles or Joe should really have been THE MAN in TNA but often both were pushed to the side to make way for ex WWE guys or Sting or given rubbish gimics.
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Post by JTG Fan on Feb 21, 2015 12:49:55 GMT -5
Styles or Joe should really have been THE MAN in TNA but often both were pushed to the side to make way for ex WWE guys or Sting or given rubbish gimics. Yeah they had Joe get screwed out of the TNA Title by the Main Event Mafia so instead of having him mow down each of them and kill them on his way back to the title he started wearing pajama pants, drew dicks in his face, got fatter, threatening people with a knife, immediately lost to Kevin Nash, and then did nothing for 6 months before attacking the MEM again and then joining them.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Feb 21, 2015 21:34:38 GMT -5
I think that's what they're trying to do with Roode.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 22, 2015 10:34:57 GMT -5
It should have been AJ Styles. Had the dude there for a decade, gave him all the accolades, STILL never made him the legitimate face. It's just odd how they whiffed so badly there.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 23, 2015 9:28:44 GMT -5
It should have been AJ Styles. Had the dude there for a decade, gave him all the accolades, STILL never made him the legitimate face. It's just odd how they whiffed so badly there. It's because AJ never made a name for himself in WWF, WCW, or ECW before joining TNA. Every time someone new showed up in TNA from those aforementioned companies, Styles and the rest of the homegrown got pushed into the background and spent more time putting them over than the other way around.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 9:59:40 GMT -5
Apparently Abyss was legitimately an attempt at making their John Cena. Hulk Hogan specifically said he wanted Abyss to be their John Cena.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Feb 23, 2015 10:21:17 GMT -5
It should have been AJ Styles. I'm going with this. TNA had their guy in AJ Styles. He was what embodied TNA in their early years. He was the epitome of the X division, the one thing that made TNA stand out above all others. He was there from the beginning and people knew him as the face of TNA. The fact that TNA let him literally walk away nonchalantly was the final nail in the coffin to them ever being relevant in my opinion. TNA needs AJ as shown by the commanding presence he now has in NJPW. They hire ex-WWE guys trying to get that "star" when they had him all along and let him go.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 23, 2015 10:24:53 GMT -5
It should have been AJ Styles. I'm going with this. TNA had their guy in AJ Styles. He was what embodied TNA in their early years. He was the epitome of the X division, the one thing that made TNA stand out above all others. He was there from the beginning and people knew him as the face of TNA. The fact that TNA let him literally walk away nonchalantly was the final nail in the coffin to them ever being relevant in my opinion. TNA needs AJ as shown by the commanding presence he now has in NJPW. They hire ex-WWE guys trying to get that "star" when they had him all along and let him go. I realized that they were never going to make AJ the proper face of the company hwen they made him Mini-flair and continued talking about how he was the future of TNA... while he already won every title TNA has... and was currently the champion and it wasn't his first Reign as World Champion in the Company. At that point he shouldn't be treated like the future... he should have been the NOW of TNA.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Feb 23, 2015 10:28:46 GMT -5
I'm going with this. TNA had their guy in AJ Styles. He was what embodied TNA in their early years. He was the epitome of the X division, the one thing that made TNA stand out above all others. He was there from the beginning and people knew him as the face of TNA. The fact that TNA let him literally walk away nonchalantly was the final nail in the coffin to them ever being relevant in my opinion. TNA needs AJ as shown by the commanding presence he now has in NJPW. They hire ex-WWE guys trying to get that "star" when they had him all along and let him go. I realized that they were never going to make AJ the proper face of the company hwen they made him Mini-flair and continued talking about how he was the future of TNA... while he already won every title TNA has... and was currently the champion and it wasn't his first Reign as World Champion in the Company. At that point he shouldn't be treated like the future... he should have been the NOW of TNA. The worst part is that the fans had been already given him that throne and TNA flat out ignored it. To add insult to injury he leaves TNA and instantly becomes the biggest draw on the US indie scene and a major star in the 2nd largest company in the world. He is exactly what TNA needs, a name star with a great move set, awesome charisma, star presence, drawing power and someone who will get people to tune in. How TNA didn't see his value amazes me.
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Post by grunt on Feb 23, 2015 10:35:40 GMT -5
Funny how TNA is supposedly "a career killer", and yet a guy coming out of TNA is also "the biggest draw on the US indie scene and a major star in the 2nd largest company in the world". Cognitive dissonance much.
(and the same is true for Joe, for Daniels, or for anyone not with TNA anymore, really. The "career killer" stuff really is dirt sheet bs that has never held any water, except in the mind of Meltz & co.)
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 23, 2015 11:10:36 GMT -5
Funny how TNA is supposedly "a career killer", and yet a guy coming out of TNA is also "the biggest draw on the US indie scene and a major star in the 2nd largest company in the world". Cognitive dissonance much. (and the same is true for Joe, for Daniels, or for anyone not with TNA anymore, really. The "career killer" stuff really is dirt sheet bs that has never held any water, except in the mind of Meltz & co.) Career killer as far as being in TNA goes. It took Styles to finally leave TNA to fulfill his potential. And it is pro wrestlers who feel being part of TNA is negative to their careers. Blame Meltzer and fans all you want but that's the truth.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 23, 2015 12:37:47 GMT -5
TNA had their own Cena. Repeatedly. And they could've done it. They could've done it with Joe or Styles.
They made it Kurt Angle instead.
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Post by chrom on Feb 23, 2015 17:01:09 GMT -5
TNA had their own Cena. Repeatedly. And they could've done it. They could've done it with Joe or Styles. They made it Kurt Angle instead. Like Bad News said, it was because they weren't an Ex WWE, WCW, or ECW guy they and others such as Daniels got passed over in favor of guys who were from there. Heck if TNA wanted an ex WWE guy to be their biggest star and main man, they had the perfect opportunity with The Pope D'angelo Dinero. The guy had it all, looks, skill, charisma that was off the charts becoming an immediate fan favorite, athletic moveset and more. The guy possessed everything you could want and dream of a guy possessing. But being TNA they screwed it all up with him.
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