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Post by bmfjules on Feb 27, 2015 22:19:08 GMT -5
Expecting a lot of one word replies here in the negative but hear me out. I've always thought Martin was criminally underrated as a big man wrestler. He had a great look, especially in his younger days. Very athletic performer and generally had good matches from what I can recall. Personality wasn't much to speak of, but he could cut short effective promos, which combine that with the long hair superstar type look, and IMO he had as much and arguably MORE going for him in 99/00 than say Roman Reigns has going for him now, except for of course, support in high places.
I'm not even talking about the Steph relationship here either, which is of course a missed chance in some regards. But when you get brought in and given a name like TEST... how the hell is anyone supposed to make that work? Especially when your theme music is just "Test test dis is de test"... Just bruuutal. Long story short, I'd love to see what the guy could have done if they would have gotten behind him and had come up with an actual marketable badass sounding name instead of the death sentence of just being "Test"....
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 27, 2015 22:21:52 GMT -5
No, I don't really think so. I think he was good in the midcard. Test kind of worked for him, it's just the guy did not have charisma or acting ability in the slightest, and came across to a degree as Kevin Nash Jr, but without the charm
That said, I was a fan, and liked using him in the games since, like Perry Saturn, he often had a good moveset in them since the guy had to have gone through like a dozen finishers over the years. I really liked the running Big Boot, and he was probably one of the only people that made the Pumphandle Slam not look like a stupid finisher.
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Post by bmfjules on Feb 27, 2015 22:26:52 GMT -5
No, I don't really think so. I think he was good in the midcard. Test kind of worked for him, it's just the guy did not have charisma or acting ability in the slightest, and came across to a degree as Kevin Nash Jr, but without the charm That said, I was a fan, and liked using him in the games since, like Perry Saturn, he often had a good moveset in them since the guy had to have gone through like a dozen finishers over the years. I really liked the running Big Boot, and he was probably one of the only people that made the Pumphandle Slam not look like a stupid finisher. I think I should perhaps modify the original statement. Back THEN I would agree of course Test is not main event material when you have the likes of Stone Cold and The Rock around as full time guys with a stacked roster behind them. If he debuted with the company nowadays though (in his younger form) I firmly believe he at least gets a short tryout run in the main event. Then again, if they don't see it in Cesaro, perhaps not, as to me Cesaro is certainly much more bankable than Test, even with a better name/gimmick.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 27, 2015 22:29:48 GMT -5
He could've gotten a run with the ECW Title or the World Heavyweight Title, but not the WWE Title.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 27, 2015 22:29:49 GMT -5
Cool look, cool name (Lets be honest, people think of it was worse than it is because of the WWE's own booking, calling his fans Testicles), decent in the ring and okay on the mic but he got made into a prop in a feud designed to get Triple H over and never really recovered. Had the Triple H 'feud' not happened, he could quite easily have held the Smackdown belt in the mid 2000s and done a respectable job with it working as a tall cool looking badass brawler, but here we are. He could've gotten a run with the ECW Title or the World Heavyweight Title, but not the WWE Title. The WWE Title was the second tier belt in the 2002-2005 period where he likely would have held it, Hunter had a deathgrip on the big gold belt on Raw while the WWE title was defended on Smackdown PPVs.
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Post by thegame415 on Feb 27, 2015 22:33:15 GMT -5
He was great in late 1999, after t & a, his ring style changed and made him less appealing. I think he lost his push a bit because he might've been a vince Russo guy.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Feb 27, 2015 22:34:53 GMT -5
He would have been ECW Champion if not for Lashley thinking there was nothing for him to do on SmackDown
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 27, 2015 22:35:09 GMT -5
No. He was a good wrestler, but he wasn't really great at anything.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 27, 2015 23:33:11 GMT -5
Nah.
Even if he had found a way to the top, it would eventually crashed down on him when it came time to pass a piss test.
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Post by Paco on Feb 27, 2015 23:37:51 GMT -5
Yes. 1999.
I still say it should have been him instead of Big Show at Survivor Series '99.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 23:42:14 GMT -5
No, I don't really think so. I think he was good in the midcard. Test kind of worked for him, it's just the guy did not have charisma or acting ability in the slightest, and came across to a degree as Kevin Nash Jr, but without the charm That said, I was a fan, and liked using him in the games since, like Perry Saturn, he often had a good moveset in them since the guy had to have gone through like a dozen finishers over the years. I really liked the running Big Boot, and he was probably one of the only people that made the Pumphandle Slam not look like a stupid finisher. Exactly. Perfect response.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 27, 2015 23:53:40 GMT -5
nah, it would have happened otherwise imo
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 28, 2015 0:27:16 GMT -5
Could he?
Sure.
All they had to do was have him beat a bunch of people with a running boot, hype how no one can "Pass the Test." Then, at the Rumble, after Steve Austin was eliminated in the middle of the match by Jeff Jarrett, he would show up mid-way and kind of wait out to the end of the match where he would double eliminate Kane and Kurrgan after they combined forces to toss Tiger Ali Singh, Val Venis, and The Godfather.
They'd then reveal that Mr. McMahon had secretly never been eliminated and had instead been hiding the entire time...only for Test to hit him with the running boot and immediately eliminate him while the announcers screamed about how this performance was amazing. Mötley Crüe would then appear out of nowhere and celebrate with their former bodyguard.
He'd then beat Austin in the main event of the next PPV and Austin would shake his hand and tell him to go take down The Rock, while McMahon 'authoritative' Corporation keeps talking about how they can stop him...and then they don't.
So...yes, he could. But should he?! IS HE READY?
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 28, 2015 1:05:42 GMT -5
Had they stayed with the push they were giving him in 1999, he could have at least had a chance in the main event.
After that? No. Not a chance.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Feb 28, 2015 1:14:59 GMT -5
No Because in late 2006-Early 2007 Lashley feud, he failed a wellness test and quit after the Rumble. Before that, Triple H make him look weak in the whole Stephanie marriage angle. The feud then shifted to Vince McMahon and the Big Show.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 28, 2015 1:16:39 GMT -5
If they had forced it. He never connected with the crowd enough though his ring-work, interviews, charisma, etc. He shouldn't have been made a main event star, and he never was.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Feb 28, 2015 1:17:08 GMT -5
No, his ceiling was limited IMO. Maybe a quick run if they caught lightning in a bottle and didn't bury him so quickly after the HHH/Stephanie reveal, but he was weak (comparatively) in a lot of areas especially considering the main event scene in that time period.
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Post by Cela on Feb 28, 2015 1:54:35 GMT -5
He could have been huge, but his push was one of the many sacrificed on the altar to the triad of the H.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 2:03:45 GMT -5
Wasn't he one of the greenest if not the greenest guy to ever debut? Like I read he only had wrestled a total of 17 matches in his career when he debuted
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 28, 2015 2:32:52 GMT -5
Wasn't he one of the greenest if not the greenest guy to ever debut? Like I read he only had wrestled a total of 17 matches in his career when he debuted From what I remember, he was really great for a green guy. I don't recall any incidents of him botching spots, hurting anyone, or having noticeably bad matches.
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