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Post by Abdullah on Mar 5, 2015 13:27:14 GMT -5
We're not going to get anywhere since you pulled the 'get naked' card but suffice to say I think the divas can draw and it's a silly argument anyway. The WWE banner in general draws. The experience draws. But short of a survey, there is no almost no way of knowing who the fans are excited to see when they pay for seats. Except crowd pops and merch sales. Since the divas check both of those boxes, I think it's fair to say that they are an asset. Where are these big crowd pops and merch sales the divas are getting? Meltzer said that AJ's pretty much the only diva who sells a distinguishable amount of merchandise, and the reaction to the divas is always a mixed bag. Hell, I remember Stephanie at times getting a bigger pop than Brie did during their summer feud, and she was the biggest bitch on the planet during that time. I'd discussed the ratings with you here. The few times the divas are given substance, there's been a spike. I would have liked to see how this week has done but there's no longer quarterly breakdowns.
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Post by MAD TITAN on Mar 5, 2015 13:27:36 GMT -5
I'm suppose to believe that the Bella's dream was to be WWE Divas when they were growing up.
Right.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Mar 5, 2015 13:32:13 GMT -5
Where are these big crowd pops and merch sales the divas are getting? Meltzer said that AJ's pretty much the only diva who sells a distinguishable amount of merchandise, and the reaction to the divas is always a mixed bag. Hell, I remember Stephanie at times getting a bigger pop than Brie did during their summer feud, and she was the biggest bitch on the planet during that time. I'd discussed the ratings with you here. The few times the divas are given substance, there's been a spike. I would have liked to see how this week has done but there's no longer quarterly breakdowns. Just to comment on those two segments: The first one listed is only referring to the 18-49 demo, meaning it doesn't include anyone under the age of 18 or 50 and up, which make up half of WWE's audience. Doesn't mean it didn't pop them either, but we don't have that data. But even without regards to that, it's one segment, and a worked shoot at that. But still, it did decent. For the second one, Kaitlyn's story was going on for over a month, if not 2 and the big reveal still only gained 74,000 viewers. That's not all that great of a number when practically all of their other segments lose viewers.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Mar 5, 2015 13:36:10 GMT -5
I found it funny how she was like "Relax they didn't just give us 30 seconds, they gave us 3 minutes! See? Everything is fine!" Jeez.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Mar 5, 2015 13:38:14 GMT -5
Toeing that company line. You go Mrs. Cena.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 5, 2015 13:38:49 GMT -5
I wonder if Vince and Cena cornered her into a room and tried went:
nya nya nya nna Leader!!!
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Post by Abdullah on Mar 5, 2015 13:40:02 GMT -5
I'd discussed the ratings with you here. The few times the divas are given substance, there's been a spike. I would have liked to see how this week has done but there's no longer quarterly breakdowns. Just to comment on those two segments: The first one listed is only referring to the 18-49 demo, meaning it doesn't include anyone under the age of 18 or 50 and up, which make up half of WWE's audience. Doesn't mean it didn't pop them either, but we don't have that data. But even without regards to that, it's one segment, and a worked shoot at that. But still, it did decent. For the second one, Kaitlyn's story was going on for over a month, if not 2 and the big reveal still only gained 74,000 viewers. That's not all that great of a number when practically all of their other segments lose viewers. This is exactly what I mean about the mentality with divas. Often, critics of the division will hold the women to unreasonable standards when it's just easier to say 'I preferred when they got naked.' A good rating is a good rating. There's no need to diminish it or a crowd pop unless you apply the same arbitrary standards to your favorite mid-card wrestler.
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Post by gl83 on Mar 5, 2015 13:43:58 GMT -5
I found it funny how she was like "Relax they didn't just give us 30 seconds, they gave us 3 minutes! See? Everything is fine!" Jeez. Vince: She's just a millenial, afraid to stand up and reach for the "brass ring".
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Mar 5, 2015 13:45:01 GMT -5
Shut up Nikki. You ruined any point you were trying to make. He's unproven, this was a pure company puff piece.
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Post by gr1990 on Mar 5, 2015 13:53:02 GMT -5
I hope for her sake Nikki thinks this is as big a crock of shit as we do. Likewise the time she said Tamina had gotten more over cos she appeared in one scene of one episode of Total Divas.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 5, 2015 13:53:58 GMT -5
Apparently toeing the company line in IS sexually transmitted. I am quoting this because that is good shit and it did not get any love.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 5, 2015 13:59:30 GMT -5
I hope for her sake Nikki thinks this is as big a crock of shit as we do. Like I mentioned earlier, both Nikki and Brie have made no secret of the fact they hate that the Divas get so little time, and so few chances. They've been talking about it before this all started, so yeah I think it's safe to say she thinks it's a crock of shit, and this was a PR interview.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 5, 2015 14:25:04 GMT -5
Apparently toeing the company line in IS sexually transmitted. I am quoting this because that is good shit and it did not get any love. Someone made the same joke a page before. People who don't read the thread get no likes son. I think it makes total sense for bigger stars to make more money. Michael Jordan made more than Luc Langley. But the divas don't have the chance to be stars. Does AJ make more than low level g yes though? She's a big star compared to say, Xavier Woods? If she does than I'd say the pay scale is working. But more than one diva should be able to attain that.
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Post by arrx on Mar 5, 2015 15:03:44 GMT -5
At least Nikki doesn't come across like a whiny bitch like AJ Lee and her wife.
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Post by StormanReigns on Mar 5, 2015 15:07:04 GMT -5
I think she's being a good company lady. Cena taught her well. The little dig at AJ was lovely as well. Paige, Bailey, and AJ all outsell Roman in merch. Paige is a better promo and worker than Roman. Bottom line, WTF is she talking about?
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Post by metylerca on Mar 5, 2015 15:12:05 GMT -5
At least Nikki doesn't come across like a whiny bitch like AJ Lee and her wife. Shots fired
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Post by thetower52 on Mar 5, 2015 15:33:22 GMT -5
Trish and Lita should be enough proof Women can draw. They where popular enough that wwe Let them main event Raw. They got inserted In to angles with The Rock and HHH.
To a lesser extent TNAs knockout division in what 2006? Was the highest rated segment of there shows
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Mar 5, 2015 15:35:19 GMT -5
At least Nikki doesn't come across like a whiny bitch like AJ Lee and her wife. What a bunch of quieters.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Mar 5, 2015 15:48:07 GMT -5
I don't doubt there's PR slant to this, but everybody saying "Nikki doesn't believe any of this" is probably giving her too much credit. People have opinions that don't make sense or that contradict things you might think based on previous things they've said.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 5, 2015 15:54:28 GMT -5
Bailey outsells Reigns in merch? That is pretty maj.
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