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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 10:57:39 GMT -5
I didn't recognize the little girl. Unfortunately a lot of children go missing quite often, so to expect someone to remember what they all look like is unreasonable.
I'm not a Hogan supporter and am a huge fan of dark, morbid comedy, but it was just a poorly constructed attempt at a joke and further reason why "twitter comedians" generally don't know how to actually be funny.
A) The joke's not even timely. 7 years ago isn't even close to recent.
B) The # of kids who have gone missing and made big headlines since then is too numerous for this joke to even work.
C) Regional. While the McCann story was probably big at the time, it was largely a UK story, so the idea that a US celebrity would even remember it is fairly unlikely. On top of that it was just the photo and not the name.
Basically it wasn't that it was necessarily dark or morbid, but just really bad joke-telling/pranking.
If it had been someone that Hogan could have plausibly recognized, then it would have at least been a better joke. But even then, I don't know. If someone showed me a picture of JonBenet Ramsey today I'd feel like she were vaguely familiar, but she'd look like another kid to me.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 9, 2015 17:24:42 GMT -5
Not funny, just dumb.
In fact the whole: "har har, Hogan doesn't know events" thing doesn't really even apply for reasons already mentioned.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Mar 9, 2015 21:30:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I just don't get these jokes. "Haha, a very busy celebrity didn't know about a regional crime from a decade ago!" or "We got him to retweet a picture of a serial killer that no one's ever heard of!!! What a fool!"
It's "comedy" only for those with ZERO creativity.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 10, 2015 3:46:42 GMT -5
Lets face facts, Hogan should know the story. It was huge news worldwide and everyone that follows the news should know who she is and at least a little bit of her story. Hogan being that much out of the loop and believing it was someones niece is funny to me and probably others as well. An American celebrity not knowing about a missing child from the UK who disappeared almost a decade ago isn't funny. Despite your assertion, her disappearance wasn't huge worldwide news. It may have dominated the UK news, but a missing British kid isn't going to hit the front pages of any US newspaper unless it happens to be the child of Prince William and Kate Middleton. |
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Mar 10, 2015 4:09:24 GMT -5
Lets face facts, Hogan should know the story. It was huge news worldwide and everyone that follows the news should know who she is and at least a little bit of her story. Hogan being that much out of the loop and believing it was someones niece is funny to me and probably others as well. An American celebrity not knowing about a missing child from the UK who disappeared almost a decade ago isn't funny. Despite your assertion, her disappearance wasn't huge worldwide news. It may have dominated the UK news, but a missing British kid isn't going to hit the front pages of any US newspaper unless it happens to be the child of Prince William and Kate Middleton. Isn't funny to you but please don't speak for the rest of us. Maybe I don't find your favourite comedian funny but would I say point blank "he isn't funny"? No, I wouldn't. You find him funny so that's an untrue statement. I'm not British and I know the story. It's funny Hogan didn't know. Nobody got hurt by this joke and nobody was upset. I don't understand the overreaction. Now, if the McCann parents came out and said "We're deeply upset by the Hogan prank" I'd totally get it and it'd stop being funny but right now nobody has been hurt by it so lets stop talking about how wrong it is. |
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Post by nisidhe on Mar 10, 2015 7:26:57 GMT -5
Isn't funny to you but please don't speak for the rest of us. Maybe I don't find your favourite comedian funny but would I say point blank "he isn't funny"? No, I wouldn't. You find him funny so that's an untrue statement. I don't think you have the authority to speak for the rest of us. Most people with a conscience and a capacity for empathy wouldn't find it funny, either. Your attempt at justification is similar to that of someone telling jokes about rape in front of a group of rape victims, then blaming them for being overly sensitive. It should not require anyone speaking up in order for a self-described comedy fan to be able to discern that this particular prank hit a number of bad notes and reflects poorly on the perpetrator. People can be hurt by jokes or pranks like this and you'd never know about it. Would this be funny if the Twitter account had belonged to the sibling of a long-missing child? A grandmother of said child? A friend of the McCanns? They'd never lower themselves to acknowledge this prank, let alone raise a hue and cry because it's that hurtful and also that immature and that f***ing pathetic. Those who would find this funny might well be providing the audience for the tormentors of Amanda Todd and Rethaeh Parsons, but would never know until it hit the news. At least Hogan has a far better life than anyone who'd pull this prank, or anyone who'd laugh at it. It doesn't justify such bullshit, though. |
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 10, 2015 12:59:11 GMT -5
Even if he did know who Madeline was, maybe he didn't from that photo. The news always only shows one picture of her and it's not that one.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Mar 10, 2015 14:00:37 GMT -5
Isn't funny to you but please don't speak for the rest of us. We all know missing children are HIGH-LARIOUS. That's not even up for debate here. Ones from ten years ago...comedy gold! |
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Mar 10, 2015 14:16:53 GMT -5
I didn't find it funny at all, but not because it was dark, but because it wasn't funny. There's no humour in it to me. At the same time though, I don't think we should be getting outraged because other people did find it funny. Comedy is subjective. Anything can be funny. The way I say a word could be funny to other people, but not to me or others.
The joke is morbid and I don't find it funny, but Hogan should know better. You shouldn't just retweet random pictures of people that have no context. Retweet a guy in a Hogan shirt? Fine. A family at a WWE house show? Cool. Picture of a random little girl who someone is claiming to be a relative? No. Just don't even go there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 14:18:24 GMT -5
An American celebrity not knowing about a missing child from the UK who disappeared almost a decade ago isn't funny. Despite your assertion, her disappearance wasn't huge worldwide news. It may have dominated the UK news, but a missing British kid isn't going to hit the front pages of any US newspaper unless it happens to be the child of Prince William and Kate Middleton. Isn't funny to you but please don't speak for the rest of us. Maybe I don't find your favourite comedian funny but would I say point blank "he isn't funny"? No, I wouldn't. You find him funny so that's an untrue statement. Strictly speaking, you should say that though. "Funny" is subjective so when someone says, "He isn't funny," the subjectivity is already implied. There's no objective "funny." Now, if someone were to say, "No one finds him funny." then THAT is a statement that can actually be measured and therefore proven true/false. Implying that someone saying, "He's not funny" somehow speaks for everyone is akin to you saying, "He IS funny," and trying to imply that you're speaking for everyoneone as well. It is simply not the case |
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Mar 10, 2015 14:53:18 GMT -5
the joke wasn't funny, I don't expect a non uk celebrity to know who she was or much about the case of her being missing still.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 10, 2015 15:23:36 GMT -5
Isn't funny to you but please don't speak for the rest of us. The rest of who? I'm not seeing many people who agree with you. That's not the same argument though, which other posters have addressed. Why is it funny, exactly? Why is a man who has no reason to keep abreast of every news story going on in another continent not knowing about a missing child from 2007 funny? Just because you've heard of Madeline McCann and Hogan hasn't doesn't suddenly make it funny. JonBenet Ramsey was apparently a big story over there, and I've heard of her because I read Wikipedia. You know who knows about her in the UK? Pretty much nobody, because if it got reported at all it got a couple of paragraphs on page 16 somewhere between the opinion piece about the London cycling scheme and the recaps of the weekend's TV. So does that make our collective ignorance hilarious? So it's funny to use a family's tragedy as a crux of a joke until they become aware of it? Come on now, a crappy joke made in poor taste doesn't require someone getting hurt before it is acknowledged to be a crappy joke made in poor taste. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 15:25:46 GMT -5
Wasn't she the little girl who for some reason her parents left her alone in the hotel while they went to dinner and she disappeared? yeah, they went out drinking and left the kids alone in the apartment which was the other side of the complex to the bar, but because they were well off nobody really gave them much shit, the media presented them as the victims whereas if it was a poorer family the media would have torn them to shreds and they probably would have been charged with neglect. |
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Mar 10, 2015 16:17:01 GMT -5
Isn't funny to you but please don't speak for the rest of us. Maybe I don't find your favourite comedian funny but would I say point blank "he isn't funny"? No, I wouldn't. You find him funny so that's an untrue statement. I don't think you have the authority to speak for the rest of us. Most people with a conscience and a capacity for empathy wouldn't find it funny, either. Your attempt at justification is similar to that of someone telling jokes about rape in front of a group of rape victims, then blaming them for being overly sensitive. It should not require anyone speaking up in order for a self-described comedy fan to be able to discern that this particular prank hit a number of bad notes and reflects poorly on the perpetrator. People can be hurt by jokes or pranks like this and you'd never know about it. Would this be funny if the Twitter account had belonged to the sibling of a long-missing child? A grandmother of said child? A friend of the McCanns? They'd never lower themselves to acknowledge this prank, let alone raise a hue and cry because it's that hurtful and also that immature and that f***ing pathetic. Those who would find this funny might well be providing the audience for the tormentors of Amanda Todd and Rethaeh Parsons, but would never know until it hit the news. At least Hogan has a far better life than anyone who'd pull this prank, or anyone who'd laugh at it. It doesn't justify such bullshit, though. You see what you're doing here is you're trying to use a hypothetical to make this story sound worse because there isn't enough in it to make it sound bad. Of course if you go into a rape support meeting and make a rape joke it would be a sick thing to do and rape jokes in general are not funny but that is not what happened here. What happened is one party who is not a victim of such a thing sent a picture of a missing girl to another party who is not a victim of such a thing. Nobody directly suffering from the pain of missing a child was the victim of this joke and therefore nobody really suffered any hurt feelings but you're acting like someone did and trying to make it sound worse then it really was. If this got sent to the McCann family and someone was upset then it loses it humor factor but the fact that it was Hogan and that nobody was hurt and the big guy didn't know who she was is just amusing. Not hysterically funny but worth a chuckle. I don't know why I should have to defend myself over it for a number of days though as everyone tries to label me as a guy with no conscience and a supporter of internet bullies before saying I must have a shitty life because I laughed at it. Hogan's reaction is the funny part the fact the girl is missing isn't funny. Fin. |
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Mar 10, 2015 16:22:50 GMT -5
as this is not really going anywhere outside of people starting to take potshots at each other the thread's done.
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