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Post by Instant Classic on Mar 11, 2015 16:47:12 GMT -5
I want it to happen, but I could also see Dean Ambrose winning; which I wouldn't mind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 16:53:11 GMT -5
I'm down, let him have a long run, making the midcard look like a zillion bucks.
He'll be more over than their main eventers though, and they won't like that.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 11, 2015 17:09:42 GMT -5
To piggy back off one post on the first page, here's what I'd see as at least a decent idea...not a perfect one, mind you, but at least something to play around with.
WM ends with Bryan as IC champ, Cena as US champ, and Brock retaining the World Title. Brock does his thing, only appears occasionally, but now, as said earlier in the thread, Cena and Bryan are the de facto top champions, and are presented as such in Brock's absence.
Come WM 32, you build up what Cena and Bryan have done with their titles and book a Fatal Four way: Brock vs. Cena vs. Bryan vs. Rumble winner, with a chance to unify titles, be a double champion, something like that, I dunno.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 11, 2015 17:11:10 GMT -5
Any one of the guys in this match, possibly aside from Truth, would be perfect for it if they made it the workhorse belt, but WWE has shown itself incapable of doing that.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Mar 11, 2015 17:29:23 GMT -5
The bright side if Bryan wins is that I don't see any chance of them going the "Bryan loses every non-title match" route with him; even if they're not pushing him as the top dog, he's still too over and at least somewhat protected for that. The issue is what some of you are saying: once they put the belt on him (assuming he wins), would they actually go through with allowing him to rehabilitate the belt's image? Would he pull a Bret Hart and defend it regularly (say, every other week or so) against seemingly random challengers, all in an attempt to prove his worth as champion and the worth of the belt? Would he get the chance to be like Nakamura, and be treated as an attraction nearly on par with the World Title, because it's such a huge deal that a guy of Bryan's standing is holding the strap? Or, is the outcome more what a lot of people probably fear: that WWE creative sucks at their job, may have a good idea initially on this, and then forget about it a few weeks later and basically let Bryan keep the belt as nothing more than a personal prop for his entrances (ala Ambrose as US champ)? Again, I don't see them booking Bryan into irrelevance, but I also can't imagine having faith in them to really see it through to rebuild both midcard belts for more than a few months. I just see it more in line with Rusev's relationship to the US title. Bryan would be booked strong-ish in spite of having the IC championship.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Mar 11, 2015 17:39:49 GMT -5
I saw something the otherday I wish WWE would play up more. Remember when they used to pay attention to natural storylines.
2010 Daniel wins US Title 2011 Daniel wins Heavyweight Title 2012 Daniel wins Tag Title 2013 Daniel wins World Title 2014 IC Title?
That would actually give him a reason to want it. Make some sense for why the most deserving and over guy is chasing such an after thought of a title.
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Post by The Trashman on Mar 11, 2015 18:04:32 GMT -5
People are going to be really upset when U.S Champion John Cena unifies his title with the I.C belt after Mania.
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Mar 11, 2015 18:14:29 GMT -5
I hate the way they book midcard title feuds. It's almost always somebody beats the champ in a non-title match which leads to them becoming #1 contenders. I'll never get this line of thinking. Totally unnecessary. That is definitely NOT a WWE booking thing. That game has been played for as long as I can remember. Back in the 70s, when the NWA champ (Flair or Race, usually) came into a territory, they would call out the local #1 guy to the ring and lambast him in front of the crowd. Then the local guy would get a 10-minute non=title TV match against the champ and pin him clean as can be. This would give the audience the feeling that their guy might actually have the guile to knock off the World Heavyweight Champion, which was a MASSIVE deal back then. Fans would fill the arena for Friday, Saturday nights to see the title matches. Of course, when the strap was on the line Flair or Race would either win clean (rare) or win dirty. Sometimes the champ would lose by DQ too, which would set up the next run for the champ in that territory a few months later. Occasionally, you would get a "Dusty" finish too. The champ would seemingly lose, with the challenger getting the belt to hold up and celebrate. Fans would go nuts. Then the ref would reverse the decision based on some technicality (most recently, think Jericho on RAW beating HHH back in 2000). WWE has used this approach far too much, I'll give you that. It seemed to start with the constant RAW main events featuring random team-ups of main event guys. The challenger would pin the champ leading into the next PPV match. It happens with tag matches too, to the point that you almost can predict it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 11, 2015 18:54:48 GMT -5
I hate the way they book midcard title feuds. It's almost always somebody beats the champ in a non-title match which leads to them becoming #1 contenders. I'll never get this line of thinking. Totally unnecessary. That is definitely NOT a WWE booking thing. That game has been played for as long as I can remember. Back in the 70s, when the NWA champ (Flair or Race, usually) came into a territory, they would call out the local #1 guy to the ring and lambast him in front of the crowd. Then the local guy would get a 10-minute non=title TV match against the champ and pin him clean as can be. This would give the audience the feeling that their guy might actually have the guile to knock off the World Heavyweight Champion, which was a MASSIVE deal back then. Fans would fill the arena for Friday, Saturday nights to see the title matches. Of course, when the strap was on the line Flair or Race would either win clean (rare) or win dirty. Sometimes the champ would lose by DQ too, which would set up the next run for the champ in that territory a few months later. Occasionally, you would get a "Dusty" finish too. The champ would seemingly lose, with the challenger getting the belt to hold up and celebrate. Fans would go nuts. Then the ref would reverse the decision based on some technicality (most recently, think Jericho on RAW beating HHH back in 2000). WWE has used this approach far too much, I'll give you that. It seemed to start with the constant RAW main events featuring random team-ups of main event guys. The challenger would pin the champ leading into the next PPV match. It happens with tag matches too, to the point that you almost can predict it. Definitely a fair historical point, but context needs to be applied here: Race/Flair/whomever coming into your local territory didn't happen all that often, and unless you were following magazines really closely, odds were kayfabe was in enough effect that the fact that they lost matches in other territories in recent months wasn't widely known news. Thus, your local hero pinning them was a legitimate surprise. These days, with kayfabe dead and the same guys appearing on Raw every week, there's no surprise or suspense involved, and nobody really winds up looking good. In the territory days, it was a sure fire way to look like a million bucks. It's probably why the Dusty Finish worked in the territories, but not so much once Crockett/WCW got full time national TV.
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Post by ilggant on Mar 12, 2015 2:17:45 GMT -5
I'd have Bryan have a lengthy run with it, giving it prestige and eventually losing it to a debuting Kevin Owens, who keeps the gimmick of killer 'fighting for a prize' on the main roster. Yeah, I can dream
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 2:38:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't have Bryan get anywhere near it because they've pretty definitively shown over and over the Intercontinental title drags people down to its level, not the other way around.
Plus where the hell does this leave the main event scene? You tie up Bryan and Cena in the midcard, suddenly the entire main event scene's what Reigns, Rollins, Orton, Kane, and Big Show? I mean, this Lesnar thing's really exposed the WWE title's just as worthless as all the others are but those still aren't the people I'd be having carry its title scene.
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