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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 25, 2015 5:52:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I think I've usually seen an autograph included with the promo shot, etc, though it still was I think like 25 or something when I ran into DiBiase. I didn't go for it, but he was polite and didn't seem pissy about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 6:22:48 GMT -5
I understand it from the wrestler's perspective. People are willing to pay. It doesn't hurt anybody, so why not?
I am always a little baffled at people lining up for it, though. Maybe it's because I'm not an autograph/picture guy, but I just don't get it. I could maybe understand doing it for your favorite wrestler. However, I have seen people at the shows that I go to get in line for the same people over and over. THAT is what I REALLY don't understand.
I did buy an autograph once from Bret Hart. It was at the New York ROH show he was at. My friend desperately wanted to meet him, but didn't want to stand in line alone. The experience was awkward and not really worth the money.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 25, 2015 6:25:46 GMT -5
I understand it from the wrestler's perspective. People are willing to pay. It doesn't hurt anybody, so why not? I am always a little baffled at people lining up for it, though. Maybe it's because I'm not an autograph/picture guy, but I just don't get it. I could maybe understand doing it for your favorite wrestler. However, I have seen people at the shows that I go to get in line for the same people over and over. THAT is what I REALLY don't understand. I did buy an autograph once from Bret Hart. It was at the New York ROH show he was at. My friend desperately wanted to meet him, but didn't want to stand in line alone. The experience was awkward and not really worth the money. For them, it's a high, but if you're not into the sort of thing, it's a bit like burgers. I don't like burgers, really, and I could buy the best burger in town and still feel like I wasted my money, since it's just not for me.
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Post by jmule on Mar 25, 2015 6:25:53 GMT -5
How much of that is an exaggeration? An actress who has been in one episode of Walking Dead was charging $10 just to talk to her, not to mention overcharging for everything else. what's the difference between a selfie and a auto selfie??
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Post by jmule on Mar 25, 2015 6:26:51 GMT -5
An actress who has been in one episode of Walking Dead was charging $10 just to talk to her, not to mention overcharging for everything else. what's the difference between a selfie and a auto selfie?? nevermind...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 6:28:26 GMT -5
I understand it from the wrestler's perspective. People are willing to pay. It doesn't hurt anybody, so why not? I am always a little baffled at people lining up for it, though. Maybe it's because I'm not an autograph/picture guy, but I just don't get it. I could maybe understand doing it for your favorite wrestler. However, I have seen people at the shows that I go to get in line for the same people over and over. THAT is what I REALLY don't understand. I did buy an autograph once from Bret Hart. It was at the New York ROH show he was at. My friend desperately wanted to meet him, but didn't want to stand in line alone. The experience was awkward and not really worth the money. For them, it's a high, but if you're not into the sort of thing, it's a bit like burgers. I don't like burgers, really, and I could buy the best burger in town and still feel like I wasted my money, since it's just not for me. I can understand that. It's still odd to me, though.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 25, 2015 6:30:08 GMT -5
For them, it's a high, but if you're not into the sort of thing, it's a bit like burgers. I don't like burgers, really, and I could buy the best burger in town and still feel like I wasted my money, since it's just not for me. I can understand that. It's still odd to me, though. I have like 4 autographs, only one of which I paid for, in a similar situation to you, so I understand, it's not really my sort of thing either.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Mar 25, 2015 9:30:35 GMT -5
How much of that is an exaggeration? An actress who has been in one episode of Walking Dead was charging $10 just to talk to her, not to mention overcharging for everything else. That's just absolutely ridiculous. I'm actually beside myself in shock. Who is this actress anyway? Not like she's anyone who actually matters in Hollywood.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Mar 25, 2015 9:32:47 GMT -5
The thing I don't get, nor respect, is the TNA females setting up Amazon Wishlists. Talk about taking advantage of overly-lonely and undersexed male fans, not to mention the creepy factor involved. And yet these women have no shame in doing so.
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Post by Phil Parent on Mar 25, 2015 11:24:32 GMT -5
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Mar 25, 2015 11:35:57 GMT -5
Personally I don't agree with having to pay for an autograph or photo, even if its someone I'm a big fan of I just don't think I would.
Maybe it's because I'm a British Touring Car fan and they will happily give you an autograph and pose with you in a picture and not even ask for a penny, and my encounter with Wrestlers has been quite limited anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 11:47:15 GMT -5
Oh the movie conventions are getting crazy. At a recent one, some Walking Dead folks were now charging 10 dollars just to say hi. I've seen a lot of this too at conventions in general. The one time TWD lady aside, I've seen quite a few mid to low level celebs make a killing at these cons by having a photo/autograph booth (there are entire halls devoted just to this for dozens of celebs) and people lined up around the corner. So there's definitely a line between taking advantage of and simply meeting a demand.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Mar 25, 2015 12:29:02 GMT -5
Why doesn't she just get a damn job if she wants the surgery so badly? Ridiculous.
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Post by Phil Parent on Mar 25, 2015 12:44:48 GMT -5
Why doesn't she just get a damn job if she wants the surgery so badly? Ridiculous. You know what, I'll try to answer that. What skills does Tammy Lynn Sytch have that can be used on the workplace? To my knowledge, she never finished college. But why would she? She was on TV by the time she turned 20. This would last forever and make her a millionaire! That lasted... heh, it really ended before she turned 30. And she blew the money on the usual stuff young celebrities blow their money. So she found herself in her late 20's with no skills, being semi-famous, with her peak in popularity dating back 4-5 years. Could Tammy become a waitress or a cashier? Yeah oh course. I'm sure she has the social skills that could make her a good hair dresser and chat away with her client, or maybe even a SOCIAL WORKER, after all she lived the life and saw a bunch of stuff. But does somebody who was on national TV and was the most downloaded women in the infancy of the internet WANT to have those jobs? Of course not. She wants to get back to her former glory. She can't, she's dissapointed. So she lashes out at the world online or hits the crack pipe. That pulls her further away from credibility and reality. And the wheel keeps turning. I don't want to blame the business for Tammy's shortcomings, but the business was an horrible place for this person to become an adult in. And nobody ever told her to prepare for when the spotlight would dim because at her prime, she was just crapping cash and nobody wanted to lose that revenue. Tammy has a male equivalent: Sean Waltman. Waltman didn't even finish a grade in HIGH SCHOOL! But, he was slightly better organized than Tammy and has friends taking care of him, so he's better off.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Mar 25, 2015 12:56:32 GMT -5
Why doesn't she just get a damn job if she wants the surgery so badly? Ridiculous. You know what, I'll try to answer that. What skills does Tammy Lynn Sytch have that can be used on the workplace? To my knowledge, she never finished college. But why would she? She was on TV by the time she turned 20. This would last forever and make her a millionaire! That lasted... heh, it really ended before she turned 30. And she blew the money on the usual stuff young celebrities blow their money. So she found herself in her late 20's with no skills, being semi-famous, with her peak in popularity dating back 4-5 years. Could Tammy become a waitress or a cashier? Yeah oh course. I'm sure she has the social skills that could make her a good hair dresser and chat away with her client, or maybe even a SOCIAL WORKER, after all she lived the life and saw a bunch of stuff. But does somebody who was on national TV and was the most downloaded women in the infancy of the internet WANT to have those jobs? Of course not. She wants to get back to her former glory. She can't, she's dissapointed. So she lashes out at the world online or hits the crack pipe. That pulls her further away from credibility and reality. And the wheel keeps turning. I don't want to blame the business for Tammy's shortcomings, but the business was an horrible place for this person to become an adult in. And nobody ever told her to prepare for when the spotlight would dim because at her prime, she was just crapping cash and nobody wanted to lose that revenue. Tammy has a male equivalent: Sean Waltman. Waltman didn't even finish a grade in HIGH SCHOOL! But, he was slightly better organized than Tammy and has friends taking care of him, so he's better off. 1. Boo hoo...a celeb who has no backup plan of getting an education in case her celeb career doesn't work out, who suddenly finds that she's blown all her WWF money. I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for her, nor do I sympathize with her for trying to con people out of giving her money for a surgery that she ideally SHOULD be able to afford, had she invested her money well. 2. Someone who was once famous doesn't want to take any reputable job she can find - for the sake of putting food on her table - just because it would be a massive blow to her ego to take a 'step down'? Insulting. She needs to swallow her fat pride and apply at the Fuddruckers and Wal-Marts of the world if it means being able to have some kind of income, and not stoop to having delusional fans throw their money at her. 3. I don't care how dirty the business is. Look at all the others who saved their money and did well. Hell, people in the territory days were even able to save their money and retire well. People can blame the business, and celebrity status, all they want with regard to Tammy's downfall, but everything that happened was brought on by her. No one told her to start doing drugs. No one told her to start spending money on frivolous stuff. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Post by mysterious on Mar 25, 2015 14:08:18 GMT -5
Why doesn't she just get a damn job if she wants the surgery so badly? Ridiculous. You know what, I'll try to answer that. What skills does Tammy Lynn Sytch have that can be used on the workplace? To my knowledge, she never finished college. But why would she? She was on TV by the time she turned 20. This would last forever and make her a millionaire! That lasted... heh, it really ended before she turned 30. And she blew the money on the usual stuff young celebrities blow their money. So she found herself in her late 20's with no skills, being semi-famous, with her peak in popularity dating back 4-5 years. Could Tammy become a waitress or a cashier? Yeah oh course. I'm sure she has the social skills that could make her a good hair dresser and chat away with her client, or maybe even a SOCIAL WORKER, after all she lived the life and saw a bunch of stuff. But does somebody who was on national TV and was the most downloaded women in the infancy of the internet WANT to have those jobs? Of course not. She wants to get back to her former glory. She can't, she's dissapointed. So she lashes out at the world online or hits the crack pipe. That pulls her further away from credibility and reality. And the wheel keeps turning. I don't want to blame the business for Tammy's shortcomings, but the business was an horrible place for this person to become an adult in. And nobody ever told her to prepare for when the spotlight would dim because at her prime, she was just crapping cash and nobody wanted to lose that revenue. Tammy has a male equivalent: Sean Waltman. Waltman didn't even finish a grade in HIGH SCHOOL! But, he was slightly better organized than Tammy and has friends taking care of him, so he's better off. The business didn't ruin Molly Holly, Ivory, Trish Stratus. Tammy made her own decisions in life. She had the looks and talent to succeed and chose not to. Even Melina who was let go by WWE for having the same backstage reputation as Sunny is still looking good and doing well. She never had to flash her tits or do porn to pay bills or stay in the spotlight.
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Post by Phil Parent on Mar 25, 2015 16:16:40 GMT -5
Some people are strong, some people are weak...
I'm not defending her.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 25, 2015 17:09:36 GMT -5
I wonder if it's a state by state thing. Guys charging for a picture on YOUR CAMERA as well as separately charging for signatures is only something I've witnessed in New York and California, not including one instance in Georgia when after getting an actor who I won't name's autograph, his son ran up off me after and told me it was $20. I responded by going with his son back to his dad's unmarked table and asked him if it really was $20 per autograph. He shot his son a look, then looked back at me and said "Tell you what, you can have that one for free."
I will say, while I don't consider myself an "autograph collector" in general, there is something really unique about having something actually signed by a particular person of note. It's such a personal piece of memorabilia that only they can create, it's the least creepy closest thing to, I guess, buying their medical waste that you can have to say you have a little piece of them with you.
A buddy of mine is a classical music fanatic and has been amassing a collection of his favorite composers signature for about a decade now. Not autographs in the traditional sense, he has things like a postcard sent by Igor Stravinsky and Alban Berg's monthly heating bill. These are people who will be studied in universities until the end of time, and my friend has something unbelievably humanizing about them just chilling on the wall of his room.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 25, 2015 17:13:33 GMT -5
You know what, I'll try to answer that. What skills does Tammy Lynn Sytch have that can be used on the workplace? To my knowledge, she never finished college. But why would she? She was on TV by the time she turned 20. This would last forever and make her a millionaire! That lasted... heh, it really ended before she turned 30. And she blew the money on the usual stuff young celebrities blow their money. So she found herself in her late 20's with no skills, being semi-famous, with her peak in popularity dating back 4-5 years. Could Tammy become a waitress or a cashier? Yeah oh course. I'm sure she has the social skills that could make her a good hair dresser and chat away with her client, or maybe even a SOCIAL WORKER, after all she lived the life and saw a bunch of stuff. But does somebody who was on national TV and was the most downloaded women in the infancy of the internet WANT to have those jobs? Of course not. She wants to get back to her former glory. She can't, she's dissapointed. So she lashes out at the world online or hits the crack pipe. That pulls her further away from credibility and reality. And the wheel keeps turning. I don't want to blame the business for Tammy's shortcomings, but the business was an horrible place for this person to become an adult in. And nobody ever told her to prepare for when the spotlight would dim because at her prime, she was just crapping cash and nobody wanted to lose that revenue. Tammy has a male equivalent: Sean Waltman. Waltman didn't even finish a grade in HIGH SCHOOL! But, he was slightly better organized than Tammy and has friends taking care of him, so he's better off. 1. Boo hoo...a celeb who has no backup plan of getting an education in case her celeb career doesn't work out, who suddenly finds that she's blown all her WWF money. I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for her, nor do I sympathize with her for trying to con people out of giving her money for a surgery that she ideally SHOULD be able to afford, had she invested her money well. 2. Someone who was once famous doesn't want to take any reputable job she can find - for the sake of putting food on her table - just because it would be a massive blow to her ego to take a 'step down'? Insulting. She needs to swallow her fat pride and apply at the Fuddruckers and Wal-Marts of the world if it means being able to have some kind of income, and not stoop to having delusional fans throw their money at her. 3. I don't care how dirty the business is. Look at all the others who saved their money and did well. Hell, people in the territory days were even able to save their money and retire well. People can blame the business, and celebrity status, all they want with regard to Tammy's downfall, but everything that happened was brought on by her. No one told her to start doing drugs. No one told her to start spending money on frivolous stuff. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Why feel so bitter about it? Nobody's forcing others to fund her, if they do, then that's their business, insane as any of us might think it is. Who cares? Anyway, I never understood the autograph thing, but I do have a few mostly because I either threw money into a Kickstarter (got a Rifftrax poster autographed by Mike, Bill, and Kevin, and a dinosaur artwork poster autographed by one of my voiceover heroes, Gary Owens) or because of serendipity (I was just so happening to get Patrik Elias' name stitched on a Devils jersey when the guy at the store told me that Patrik would be there soon and he'd get me his autograph on it). But if people want to pay for it, well, not my money, not my business. Besides, concerning the title of this thread, you really think it's that new? Remember, this is an industry where fans are referred to as "marks".
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Post by Chuck Conry on Mar 25, 2015 17:20:45 GMT -5
An actress who has been in one episode of Walking Dead was charging $10 just to talk to her, not to mention overcharging for everything else. That's just absolutely ridiculous. I'm actually beside myself in shock. Who is this actress anyway? Not like she's anyone who actually matters in Hollywood. Alanna Masterson
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