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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:20:16 GMT -5
Child abuse!
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Apr 25, 2015 19:19:33 GMT -5
So there's a bad history of Square+Fan Idol+alcohol so results will be announced tomorrow. HOWEVER round 3 I will give a clue for Based on that picture of a man slapping his lover I will guess LGBT artists
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 20:09:34 GMT -5
Have a pretty good idea what the category is but it depends on how cheeky the host is. Could be something pretty broad or a bit more narrow.
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Post by Square on Apr 26, 2015 11:18:37 GMT -5
WELL, WELL, WELL. I have the results of our Round Two, and I also have some controversy. A certain someone didn't listen to the rules or to his song as there was someone speaking during the song! I will make a decision on what will happen to this individual come the results of Round 3. So lets move onto the rankings shall we? This is the first half of a two rounder, so if you're at the bottom you better pull something good out In FIRST PLACE with 33 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Proving that the judges are sophisciated Chaos with Lux Aeterna In SECOND PLACE with 31 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Quentin Suaventino with Dick Dale's Misirlou in THIRD PLACE with 30 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}War Richlen that makes me thank God this is done via text and not audio as I have no earthly idea how to pronounce Yngwie J Malmsteen In FOURTH PLACE with 28 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}RadRadley with The Bunnys and Moanin'...there is a joke to be made here I'm not touching it with a barge pole! In FIFTH PLACE with 27 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}A mega score for a song off the Mega Man soundtrack for DJ Magnum In SIXTH PLACE with 25 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The song that lies in its title, I counted more than one note in J's choice of One Note Samba by Antonio Carlos Jobim In SEVENTH PLACE with 24 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Alliteration galore with FW91's choice of Santana-Soul Sacrifice In EIGHTH PLACE with 23 points its a tie! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Ya-Kishi's Dreaming of Andromeda and Knailsic cello cover of Purple Haze In TENTH PLACE with 16 points ITS THE DAMN CHEAT! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Cageking with John 5's Black Widow of La Porte. WHICH HAS TALKING IN IT! SHAME ON YOU! In ELEVENTH PLACE with 15 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Waffle with Joe Satraiani's Satch Boogie In TWELTH PLACE with 14 points its another tie {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Brad, you has disgraced Shinobi with your pick of Descendant of Shinobi and the judges didn't want to hold your hand Tyger, nor did they like your choice of Explosions in the Sky's Your Hand in Mine And in LAST PLACE with 12 points {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The birthday boy, Demented I guess the judges don't like Mass Effect or this track Jack Round three will be announced tomorrow, once again the clues were duct tape and Batman slapping Robin.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Apr 26, 2015 11:42:20 GMT -5
Feeling pretty good after seeing that score!
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Post by Square on Apr 26, 2015 11:46:44 GMT -5
Feeling pretty good after seeing that score! Moved you up to joint 4th in the combined scores.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 26, 2015 12:14:22 GMT -5
Square: his name is pronounced "EEN-vee."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 12:16:09 GMT -5
Wow. I was hoping a better score, but didn't expect first. I'll take it!
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Apr 26, 2015 12:29:50 GMT -5
Well another round in the books. So it's time to reveal my scores!
Tier I: The Fave Five!
1. Santana- Soul Sacrifice (I had a hard time deciding between this and Misirlou for the top spot, but in the end this impressed me more. This is a song that truly carried itself by the virtue of its music alone. That's what I consider a good instrumental.)
2. Dick Dale- Misirlou (An iconic tune, but a good one all the same. This almost placed in first for me, but after giving the songs a second listen I opted to place this one in second instead. It's still a great song though.)
3. The Bunnys-Moanin' (This one surprised me alot. A very psychadelic sound that made it stand out from the rest of the songs this round. Not much else to say really. It just really struck the right chord with me. Even if it did go a little crazy at times. It was a bit short, but at least it didn't overstay its welcome.)
4. Yngwie J.Malmsteen- Black Star (This could have easily overtaken my third spot song, and it almost did. Another great track in a round full of awesome instrumentals. This one just has an epic sound to it that I absolutely love. Again, great guitarwork throughout and some awesome percussion mixed in as well. While it is a little slower paced, that just goes to show you that a song doesn't always have to have a frantic pace to stand out.)
5. Mega Man 2-Dr Wily's Castle (One of my all-time favorite tracks from the Mega Man Series, and no doubt many others. A very bold choice going for a video game theme in this competition. I applaud such out of the box thinking. However I had to judge it on its merit as a song. And this one definitely held its own. Even if a bit repetitive at times, I can't help but want to listen to it over and over again.)
Tier II: The Fairly Good Four
7. Clint Mansell- Lux Aeterna (Another iconic theme. It's a little on the overplayed side for me personally so it didn't really strike me as much. Still it's a great instrumental tune that has a great build throughout.)
8. Antonio Carlos Jobim- One Note Samba (It's essentially elevator music, but catchy elevator music at least. While it didn't really hold up against alot of other songs this round, it's far from a bad tune. A very solid choice, and I'd be fine waiting for the next floor with this playing in the background.)
9. Joe Satraiani- Satch Boogie (I've heard this somewhere before. A very solid rock track with some great guitar at times. But it had some stiff competition this round which held it back. Again though, absolutely no problems at all with this little ditty.)
10. 2Cellos-Purple Haze (Purple Haze is a great song, but this cover just... falls a little flat for me. It seems to lack the same spirit as the original. Granted it's still a fine rendition, but it never really blows me away at any point. Still, I did enjoy it a little more then some songs this round as a whole.)
Tier III: The Underwhelming Four
11. Nobuo Uematsu- Descendant of Shinobi (I like Nobuo Uematsu; I like Final Fantasy, at least the older titles. However, this song just struck me as okay. I applaud you not going for a more obvious song in his library, but this one just didn't click with me. It's not bad, but compared to most of his other work it's very underwhelming.)
12. Enigma-Dreaming of Andromeda (It's a very atmospheric tune, I'll give it that. Perfect, I imagine, for setting a particular mood perhaps. As a song though... it just fell short. I dunno. To me it never seems to really get going, having a very subdued pace throughout. Just didn't do it for me personally, I suppose.)
13. Sam Hulick-Jack (Again, Mass Effect games are one of my favorite game series, especially in the modern era. This song however just meanders around a bit too much for my liking. There are parts I like towards the end, but the rest doesn't really resonate with me, I admit.)
14. Explosions in the Sky- Your Hand in Mine (There's nothing wrong with this song really. I think the thing that holds it back for me personally is the length. It drags for me at times and it's very hard to get lost in it. I blame the pace because it's very difficult for an eight minute song to work with a slug-like pace. Still, there are some parts I like, just not enough for me to place it any higher then here.)
Tier IV: The What a Shame One
6. John 5-Black Widow of La Porte ( The song itself I like alot. It has a very solid pace and some great guitar throughout. However, there is one caveat that one of my fellow judges pointed out. Since I'm writing these after having sent in my scores, I went back and listened and sure enough there is some voice at one point. And really... take that out and song wouldn't be any different. But again, much as it pains, had I noticed that upon the initial listen this would have to be at the very bottom of my list by that merit alone. Hence why this one is all by it's lonesome down here despite the ranking.)
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Post by Dub H on Apr 26, 2015 12:40:46 GMT -5
This is how i ranked,with comments: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Number 1:2CELLOS - Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix Looks like i'm alone on this one,but i really loved this,the original song is already pretty good,but the way they used the cellos suckered me in. It was just cool and great instrumental piece for me,with great use of Cello.
Number 2:Antonio Carlos Jobim -One Note Samba If i didn't know any better,i would have guessed someone tried to suck up to my Brazilian origins.But matter of fact is,i love classical Samba,Bossa Nova,i think it is a beautiful and unique genre.And while it is not my favourite piece,it shows you how much can be done from the basics(Square,all notes are derived from the same one note,and that is why it is called One Note Samba)
Number 3: Yngwie J.Malmsteen- Black Star
The use of the guitar is great and by far the best thing of the song,it just a freaking great guitar with good drum support.Not much to say about this one,it is just simple great guitar
Number 4: Lux Aeterna
It is one of the classics music.I was really hoping we would see a classical piece,and a great at that,it is just greatly composed.It was a top 4 harder than i said.I tough i had it straight up decided,but looking back i actually had hard time choosing between some of those
Number 5:Enigma-Dreaming of Andromeda
It is different,it is no just instruments,but i think these songs defintely deserve a spot.And i like to judge songs by also if they make me feel somethings,if they bring some emotion from me.And as the rules said no words,but it was allowed to use mouth sounds like scream,this was a great use of that little detail.
Number 6:Dr.WIlly Castle. I never played the game,i have heard the song before,i would like to think i'm not biased since the melody is great ,but i also like 8-bit sounds like this one.The melody and uniqueness of the song compared to the others are a good thing.
Number 7: Soul Sacrifice-Santana
It has a great start,i really loved the beginning of the song it is catch and some great drums.But i feel like the rest of the song is not AS good,it is still a good song.
Number 8: Final Fantasy VII Soundtrack - Descendant Of Shinobi
Better as a soundtrack than a song itself.I was even tempted to rank it 9 instead of eight,but it makes me feel relaxed,it brings some emotion from me,so overrall it is good.
Number 9: John 5 - Black Widow Of La Porte
It was pretty good overall,the man can definetely rock it so it was pretty impressive.But the song overrall wasn't that good.Also,it was pointed out the voice,but i am not the one to enforce the rules.It was a second that made no difference,it broke the rules yes,but that is Square to blame for allowing,if he allowed,i will judge so.
Number 10: Dick Dale-Misirlou
Guess i was lonely in this one and screwed someone from first place.Oops.My bad.But this song just wasn't for me i guess then.It was decent,nothing wrong instrumental wise and the beginning is really catch.Definetely makes you think of the beach which is good.Good use of the screams too. It is a good song no doubt but comparing to the other ones i found underwhelming and it sounded very much like...
Number 11: The Bunnys- Moanin'
I found this song and Misirlou very similar,both for me sound like beach songs,and have the same pattern. But Misirlou has just a few extra things that make it better.There is no way i could rank these apart from each other,and with Misirlou not above.
Number 12: Joe Satriani - Satch Boogie
This song was odd for me,it was good just as every other song on the list.But i found repetitive,there was not much to it,i could definitely see it as a soundtrack for something,but it is not that great.Not a very inspired song.
Number 13:Explosions in the Sky - Your Hand in Mine
It sounded good but so generic.It was decent but i think it just felt "generic slow song" from me.Even a little boring,it was good,but not much else.
Number 14:Mass Effect 2 OST-Jack
This was a mess,sorry Demented,sometimes you choose something because it is related to something you like,but you have to think"do i like this for its own merits,or to what it is associated to".This song felt it had MANY different parts but none of then worked as a song,they were fine soundtracks,they don't catch your attention ,they are not that good of a SONG.And the many parts it had,none of it felt like it worked to be a song and neither did it transit very well between then.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 12:49:35 GMT -5
Can someone point out where there's talking? I even looked up whether this was under instrumental or not
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 12:51:45 GMT -5
Eh, I'll be nice. Judges are judges. It's frustrating though because I think I'm bringing songs that are different than the rest of the round offerings but I'm not being rewarded for it. So, it takes away from the fun of the game for me. I don't have much of a chance to avoid the bottom unless I defer to judging. There are a few songs that I've heard before and they've done better than mine. So, I have to change my playing style. I don't particularly like that. Criticism what I'm going to say next all I want and it's not a criticism to the player who chose it but we all know the Dick Dale song. We know why it's famous. It's good. My song doesn't have a chance against it.
Saying something is too long just takes the wind out of my sails. As does saying something is generic sounding when it doesn't sound like anything else in the round. If a song comes out in 2002, is it it's fault that it sounds like other things that likely came out afterwards? Why not use that criticism for some of the other round offerings?
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Post by Dub H on Apr 26, 2015 12:52:40 GMT -5
Can someone point out where there's talking? I even looked up whether this was under instrumental or not 2:04 there is a low voice
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Post by Dub H on Apr 26, 2015 12:54:31 GMT -5
Eh, I'll be nice. Judges are judges. It's frustrating though because I think I'm bringing songs that are different than the rest of the round offerings but I'm not being rewarded for it. So, it takes away from the fun of the game for me. I don't have much of a chance to avoid the bottom unless I defer to judging. There are a few songs that I've heard before and they've done better than mine. So, I have to change my playing style. I don't particularly like that. Criticism what I'm going to say next all I want and it's not a criticism to the player who chose it but we all know the Dick Dale song. We know why it's famous. It's good. My song doesn't have a chance against it. Saying something is too long just takes the wind out of my sails. As does saying something is generic sounding when it doesn't sound like anything else in the round. If a song comes out in 2002, is it it's fault that it sounds like other things that likely came out afterwards? Why not use that criticism for some of the other round offerings? That is fair,if you have aproblem you say so.I do think too long it not a good choice. But it didn't sound appealing to me overrall. Maybe boring would be better than generic.It just sounded to me like something i would hear and forget it exists right after i'm done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:00:37 GMT -5
Eh, I'll be nice. Judges are judges. It's frustrating though because I think I'm bringing songs that are different than the rest of the round offerings but I'm not being rewarded for it. So, it takes away from the fun of the game for me. I don't have much of a chance to avoid the bottom unless I defer to judging. There are a few songs that I've heard before and they've done better than mine. So, I have to change my playing style. I don't particularly like that. Criticism what I'm going to say next all I want and it's not a criticism to the player who chose it but we all know the Dick Dale song. We know why it's famous. It's good. My song doesn't have a chance against it. Saying something is too long just takes the wind out of my sails. As does saying something is generic sounding when it doesn't sound like anything else in the round. If a song comes out in 2002, is it it's fault that it sounds like other things that likely came out afterwards? Why not use that criticism for some of the other round offerings? That is fair,if you have aproblem you say so.I do think too long it not a good choice. But it didn't sound appealing to me overrall. Maybe boring would be better than generic.It just sounded to me like something i would hear and forget it exists right after i'm done. See, I disagree. IMO, there's a lot going on in the song. There are different movements, for one. It changes pitch several times and there are false endings. It's complex and nuanced. The song you ranked 1st, imo, is just a cover with strings. That's been popular for a long time now. It doesn't add anything to the original, imo, and without Jimi's vocals, a lot of the heart of that song is lost. Again, not a criticism of the person picking it (who is, imo, in the top 6 or so of players to ever play Idol and likely has the most range in his musical interest), I just don't think that, outside of novelty value, it's a particularly mind-blowing song.
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Post by Waffel113 on Apr 26, 2015 13:11:48 GMT -5
Well, huh.
Better hope the next round's more in my wheelhouse.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Apr 26, 2015 13:19:27 GMT -5
Eh, I'll be nice. Judges are judges. It's frustrating though because I think I'm bringing songs that are different than the rest of the round offerings but I'm not being rewarded for it. So, it takes away from the fun of the game for me. I don't have much of a chance to avoid the bottom unless I defer to judging. There are a few songs that I've heard before and they've done better than mine. So, I have to change my playing style. I don't particularly like that. Criticism what I'm going to say next all I want and it's not a criticism to the player who chose it but we all know the Dick Dale song. We know why it's famous. It's good. My song doesn't have a chance against it. Saying something is too long just takes the wind out of my sails. As does saying something is generic sounding when it doesn't sound like anything else in the round. If a song comes out in 2002, is it it's fault that it sounds like other things that likely came out afterwards? Why not use that criticism for some of the other round offerings? I see where you're coming from. Trust me when I say it's not that I'm actively going out of my way to rank your stuff low. I didn't even know that was the song you submitted this round. And it's not because the song is too long. There are plenty of lengthier tracks that I enjoyed personally from this round. It's more that I think the length worked against it in this particular case. There were a few other lengthier tracks this round that I was perfectly fine with. I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm just being honest and offering my viewpoint. That's what judging is about after all. I definitely understand your frustration though because I've been there.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 26, 2015 13:19:53 GMT -5
That is fair,if you have aproblem you say so.I do think too long it not a good choice. But it didn't sound appealing to me overrall. Maybe boring would be better than generic.It just sounded to me like something i would hear and forget it exists right after i'm done. See, I disagree. IMO, there's a lot going on in the song. There are different movements, for one. It changes pitch several times and there are false endings. It's complex and nuanced. The song you ranked 1st, imo, is just a cover with strings. That's been popular for a long time now. It doesn't add anything to the original, imo, and without Jimi's vocals, a lot of the heart of that song is lost. Again, not a criticism of the person picking it (who is, imo, in the top 6 or so of players to ever play Idol and likely has the most range in his musical interest), I just don't think that, outside of novelty value, it's a particularly mind-blowing song. Fair point about the first place,i could have judged it too high,i just tough it sounded REALLY good,that the original song with the cellos were a good combination.I tried to ignore the voice thing and judge it for its instrumental value,which i think i did. Even with all that it didn't make your pick more memorable to me BUT i know i'm not a perfect judge,so thanks for speaking your mind,i will take in consideration what you said for the future(there is not much i can do now).The best i can do is take your feedback and try to improve.
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Post by Demented on Apr 26, 2015 13:26:42 GMT -5
I was right about something! Of course, it was one thing I didn't want to be right. Figures.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:29:39 GMT -5
Eh, I'll be nice. Judges are judges. It's frustrating though because I think I'm bringing songs that are different than the rest of the round offerings but I'm not being rewarded for it. So, it takes away from the fun of the game for me. I don't have much of a chance to avoid the bottom unless I defer to judging. There are a few songs that I've heard before and they've done better than mine. So, I have to change my playing style. I don't particularly like that. Criticism what I'm going to say next all I want and it's not a criticism to the player who chose it but we all know the Dick Dale song. We know why it's famous. It's good. My song doesn't have a chance against it. Saying something is too long just takes the wind out of my sails. As does saying something is generic sounding when it doesn't sound like anything else in the round. If a song comes out in 2002, is it it's fault that it sounds like other things that likely came out afterwards? Why not use that criticism for some of the other round offerings? I see where you're coming from. Trust me when I say it's not that I'm actively going out of my way to rank your stuff low. I didn't even know that was the song you submitted this round. And it's not because the song is too long. There are plenty of lengthier tracks that I enjoyed personally from this round. It's more that I think the length worked against it in this particular case. There were a few other lengthier tracks this round that I was perfectly fine with. I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm just being honest and offering my viewpoint. That's what judging is about after all. I definitely understand your frustration though because I've been there. Well, yeah, the picks are anonymous. I'm not taking a shot at the judges, but I'm trying to understand the judging a bit more. I can't predict it will happen, but I feel a bit uneasy picking certain things because of the reasons offered for why songs are ranked the way they are. I've hosted two of these things, so I think I can speak with some level of competency about judging and I have my thoughts that I'm going to reserve to myself. I just feel like I have to play a certain way to advance and I'm not particularly happy about that.
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