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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 16, 2015 20:52:53 GMT -5
Now, we all know what I'm referring to, every artist has their time when they are at their peak-for the sake of this thread I'm referring to pretty major artists that became household names by the way.
And then, their popularity takes a hit.
Take Kesha for instance-like her or not, things changed when she got help for an eating disorder and she took time off.
Am I faulting her for that? Absolutely not, but you can't deny, her career changed after that, it kinda humanized her.
So, liife events, like having kids or getting old have an affect too-that's life.
Then sometimes, an artist's popularity tumbles mysteriously-like Hootie and the Blowfish-they had a MASSIVE debut album, and release a follow up while the first is still doing well and they never recovered.
Or Debbie Gibson, who had her biggest hit and her next single kinda stiffed and things were never the same
Nothing lasts forever, of course, and none of the artists should quit or be ashamed, but I bet everyone reading this thread can pick an artist and many others will all pinpoint the same spot where things went down for said artist.
Examples and thoughts?
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Post by 4real on Apr 16, 2015 21:17:25 GMT -5
Lady GaGa seems to have dropped off massively, I can't name anything off her last album at all. Maybe that's just me I don't know.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 16, 2015 21:18:23 GMT -5
M. Night Shyamalan made The Village. not that signs was any better but The Village was when he became a punchline.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 16, 2015 22:13:37 GMT -5
Lady GaGa seems to have dropped off massively, I can't name anything off her last album at all. Maybe that's just me I don't know. Yea-when she was off for her hip replacement, Miley Cyrus twerked and that was that
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 16, 2015 23:31:20 GMT -5
Now, we all know what I'm referring to, every artist has their time when they are at their peak-for the sake of this thread I'm referring to pretty major artists that became household names by the way. And then, their popularity takes a hit. Take Kesha for instance-like her or not, things changed when she got help for an eating disorder and she took time off. Am I faulting her for that? Absolutely not, but you can't deny, her career changed after that, it kinda humanized her. This was when she dropped the $ to prove she was all growed up, right?
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 16, 2015 23:38:05 GMT -5
Lady GaGa seems to have dropped off massively, I can't name anything off her last album at all. Maybe that's just me I don't know. Yea-when she was off for her hip replacement, Miley Cyrus twerked and that was that Are we talking about her last solo, or the Tony Bennett one? The latter would be easier, but still...I can think of Applause from Artpop. Oh and Donatella, which was aces. I keep saying this, but I think Gaga cooling off made me like her more and look beyond the hype and even the image. Meanwhile, yes, Cyrus twerked and came/comes off like a big d***he. We talked about Kesha proving she grew up, well, Cyrus did the total opposite of what she did and looks even more immature. I have yet to see or hear anything redeeming about her person. Ahem, off on a tangent there. Now, back to the Gaga situation...this makes me want to bring up a sub-topic to this one...people who still make good music, maybe even BETTER than their most popular stuff, when their megafame cools. Gaga is definitely an example still, as her Bennett work proves she can do more than 2000/2010s pop. I think Marianne Faithfull became a deeper artist after her 60s fame was up, and after the drink/drugs/etc. But some people DO recognize Broken English as a brilliant album. Dusty Springfield is known for like 4 '60s hits when her catalogue in that decade was a whole lot more...and don't get me started on the flawless output she gave us in the other three decades in which she recorded and performed.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 16, 2015 23:57:01 GMT -5
Frank Miller went from being a legend in the comic book industry to the sort of embarrassment you keep locked away in the basement after faking their death.
Of course, that wasn't without a lot of hard work on his part (see All Star Batman and Robin, Holy Terror, and the RoboCop 2 comic).
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 16, 2015 23:58:28 GMT -5
Faye Dunaway's career after playing Joan Crawford in Mommie Dearest was never what it had been during the New Hollywood era. From the late 1960s throughout the 1970s, she appeared in Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown, The Towering Inferno, Three Days of the Condor, and Network. She received three Oscar nominations, winning for Network. She looked like she could be on her way to a great career like Katharine Hepburn, Barbara Stanwyck, or Ingrid Bergman. Then Mommie Dearest was released and her career has never really been the same. Actresses like Meryl Streep, Jessica Lange, and Glenn Close ended up going on to have the careers it seemed like Dunaway might have. She will at least be remembered as being one of the biggest female stars of the New Hollywood era, with Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown, and Network being seminal films of that period.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 17, 2015 6:39:05 GMT -5
Frank Miller went from being a legend in the comic book industry to the sort of embarrassment you keep locked away in the basement after faking their death. Of course, that wasn't without a lot of hard work on his part (see All Star Batman and Robin, Holy Terror, and the RoboCop 2 comic). To tell the truth, I've never liked really any of Miller's DC work. He doesn't seem to be capable of writing Batman without Gary Stuing him beyond all belief, and he never, ever gets Superman right.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 17, 2015 6:58:35 GMT -5
Kid Rock seemed huge in like 2009 was it when he released that All Summer Long song, it's not like he was a one hit wonder since he had well known songs before then with Bawitbaba and American Badass but All Summer Long was definitely the peak.
Now, I never hear anything of him. It's like he hit that plateau and just plummeted. I can't name a song he's done since then.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 17, 2015 7:27:16 GMT -5
Kid Rock seemed huge in like 2009 was it when he released that All Summer Long song, it's not like he was a one hit wonder since he had well known songs before then with Bawitbaba and American Badass but All Summer Long was definitely the peak. Now, I never hear anything of him. It's like he hit that plateau and just plummeted. I can't name a song he's done since then. He's succesfully remarketed himself to the country/heartland rock audience and has had decent success in that market.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 17, 2015 10:17:15 GMT -5
Frank Miller went from being a legend in the comic book industry to the sort of embarrassment you keep locked away in the basement after faking their death. Of course, that wasn't without a lot of hard work on his part (see All Star Batman and Robin, Holy Terror, and the RoboCop 2 comic). I'd also say a lot of his later work ruined his earlier work, because you see a lot of the stupid shit that he get's criticized for in his "Good" stuff. To tell the truth, I've never liked really any of Miller's DC work. He doesn't seem to be capable of writing Batman without Gary Stuing him beyond all belief, and he never, ever gets Superman right. This too, and it's not just Superman he doesn't seem to understand.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 10:35:35 GMT -5
-I do wanna say Darius Rucker (Guy Usually Referred To As "Hootie") has done a nice rebound and been embraced by the country music world. Not a fan of his music, but it's folksy and fits in well.
-You can point to many (mostly female) singers who have had no business acting in a movie as a featured performer. And when it's released, that slippery slope down just turned into a water slide. Cher and Barbra Streisand, you're not. Read the script. It's okay to say "No, I don't like it."
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Post by Saul Goodman on Apr 17, 2015 11:00:17 GMT -5
Howard Scott Warshaw created my favorite Atari 2600 game which was also the best selling original Atari 2600 game. He also created the Raiders of the Lost Ark games for Atari 2600, these games were not bad and sold very well. His career in video game making ended when he created ET, ET is know as the worst video game of all time, even though 75% of the people who claims it is never played the game. ET is the scapegoat of the video game crash of 1983, it is also blamed for the death of Atari. The game is not that bad and Warshaw should have more respect. In a way Warshaw is the video games answer to Vince Russo. Although, Russo made a lot more terrible mistakes than Warshaw.
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Post by domrep on Apr 17, 2015 11:02:20 GMT -5
Adele?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 17, 2015 11:06:48 GMT -5
The game is not that bad. I had it and played it a lot. Yes it is.
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Post by mattyc on Apr 17, 2015 11:09:53 GMT -5
I'm a fan of Lady Gaga (I saw her in concert twice during the Monster Ball era) but nobody can deny that she had a large drop when it comes to her grip on the mainstream. I believe some of the factors that led to this are a feeling of tiredness when it came to her gimmickry, Gaga showing up at an event in a crazy costume quickly became expected rather than shocking. I also think it was due to her tendency to hugely overhype her own work, Born this Way and Artpop are good albums but they couldn't live up to the hype she'd given them or the quality of her first album.
And while this isn't exactly her fault, many of her "little monsters" don't exactly conduct themselves in the best manner online when it comes to attacks on other artists/artist fanbases, by building up this close bond with her most die hard and devoted of fans I think she also cut off a good chunk of the mainstream audience at the same time.
Nobody can deny that when you strip away all of gimmickry Lady Gaga is a very talented artist, While I wouldn't bet against her to rise back to the top it's my personal belief that she'll never reach the heights of the Fame/Monster Ball era again. That said she'll always have a strong audience who'll go to her concerts and she'll be respected for her work. Basically, I see her going down the Cyndi Lauper path.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 17, 2015 11:16:02 GMT -5
I'm a fan of Lady Gaga (I saw her in concert twice during the Monster Ball era) but nobody can deny that she had a large drop when it comes to her grip on the mainstream. I believe some of the factors that led to this are a feeling of tiredness when it came to her gimmickry, Gaga showing up at an event in a crazy costume quickly became expected rather than shocking. I also think it was due to her tendency to hugely overhype her own work, Born this Way and Artpop are good albums but they couldn't live up to the hype she'd given them or the quality of her first album. And while this isn't exactly her fault, many of her "little monsters" don't exactly conduct themselves in the best manner online when it comes to attacks on other artists/artist fanbases, by building up this close bond with her most die hard and devoted of fans I think she also cut off a good chunk of the mainstream audience at the same time. Nobody can deny that when you strip away all of gimmickry Lady Gaga is a very talented artist, While I wouldn't bet against her to rise back to the top it's my personal belief that she'll never reach the heights of the Fame/Monster Ball era again. That said she'll always have a strong audience who'll go to her concerts and she'll be respected for her work. Basically, I see her going down the Cyndi Lauper path. i saw her twice in concert too-the first time had to be the best production I've ever seen-honestly I was dissapointed the second time, because it was the same show, but that was on me-I knew it would be as well as it should. So really, both concerts were the best I've ever seen, I just had a better time when I saw it the first time My soon to be niece was a huge fan and of the age of her target audience, but she moved on like many others her age after the long break and wasn't interested in Artpop
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Post by Saul Goodman on Apr 17, 2015 11:33:12 GMT -5
The game is not that bad. I had it and played it a lot. Yes it is. The game is not good, it is glitchy and for its time it could be taken as confusing. The reason why I saw that the game is not bad is because there are a lot of games for the Atari 2600 that is much worse than it. I even think that the best selling Atari game Pac-Man is worse than ET.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 17, 2015 11:38:12 GMT -5
I had it and played it a lot. Yes it is. The game is not good, it is glitchy and for its time it could be taken as confusing. The reason why I saw that the game is not bad is because there are a lot of games for the Atari 2600 that is much worse than it. I even think that the best selling Atari game Pac-Man is worse than ET. I had that too. I found ET much worse personally.
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