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Post by Stu on Apr 17, 2015 14:51:25 GMT -5
Of all the things that demand outrage in the world I find it shocking that people devote so much time and energy to something like this. I mean by our societies standards he hasn't really done anything wrong, whether those standards are right or wrong though is another issue. my point being people are singling a celebrity out for something that if anyone else did it would be a complete non issue, I bet if you went through any of these complainers social media accounts you could find something more exciting to make a molehill out of. He's famous and has a lot of followers. His actions are likely to receive more attention than some random Joe whose social media is only followed by his friends and family
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 17, 2015 15:08:35 GMT -5
I've seen the pic. If he is shaming her about anything, it is because she went out in public wearing a pair of shorts that exposes her ass-cheeks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 15:42:33 GMT -5
Of all the things that demand outrage in the world I find it shocking that people devote so much time and energy to something like this. I mean by our societies standards he hasn't really done anything wrong, whether those standards are right or wrong though is another issue. my point being people are singling a celebrity out for something that if anyone else did it would be a complete non issue, I bet if you went through any of these complainers social media accounts you could find something more exciting to make a molehill out of. At the end of the day, it comes down to an issue of consent. And consent is an incredibly important thing in our society, or at least it should be. The fact that a grown man with a successful career doesn't have the brainpower or moral stance to think "Oh hey, I'm going to take a photo of this stranger's behind without consent and post it on the internet with creepy comments." is an unpleasant way to behave is a reflection of larger issues. And if he gets away with it, what's to stop every licentious little creeper on the internet? He didn't take the picture though his girlfriend took it, then he added in a comment about what was going on in the background when he put it on social media. We don't even know if they were aware of her when they took it. Perhaps someone in his position should have had the foresight not to write the comment he did, but its only a joke (alot of the time when people feel awkward about something they will crack a joke about it). You can't see the girls face so it's not like it's going to cause her any issue. If he was going around taking pictures of girls arses on purpose it would be creepy.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Apr 17, 2015 15:42:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't appreciate someone taking a picture of me and sharing it to the public without saying anything to me about it first. Then again, I wouldn't give the person too much grief over it.
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Post by Crimson on Apr 17, 2015 15:51:56 GMT -5
I feel like people spin a moral outrage spinning wheel, only in this case I think it falls more in the "Objectifying" category than "Body Shaming."
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Post by Stu on Apr 17, 2015 15:55:37 GMT -5
At the end of the day, it comes down to an issue of consent. And consent is an incredibly important thing in our society, or at least it should be. The fact that a grown man with a successful career doesn't have the brainpower or moral stance to think "Oh hey, I'm going to take a photo of this stranger's behind without consent and post it on the internet with creepy comments." is an unpleasant way to behave is a reflection of larger issues. And if he gets away with it, what's to stop every licentious little creeper on the internet? He didn't take the picture though his girlfriend took it, then he added in a comment about what was going on in the background when he put it on social media. We don't even know if they were aware of her when they took it. Considering the girl takes up half the pic, it's likely they knew she was there. As far as consent, it sort of gets thrown out the window when you're walking around in a public setting. Were the actions tasteless? Sure. Were they illegal? Probably not. If anything, the most the girl could do is file some kind of civil suit claiming this all traumatized her. That's if she even knows her picture is out there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 15:59:20 GMT -5
He didn't take the picture though his girlfriend took it, then he added in a comment about what was going on in the background when he put it on social media. We don't even know if they were aware of her when they took it. Considering the girl takes up half the pic, it's likely they knew she was there. yeah looking back at it your right.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Apr 17, 2015 17:04:39 GMT -5
I get that what he did is kind of a dick move but... *sigh*... people really need to stop acting like stuff like this is an important, world-changing event. Everything is "shaming" these days. It's a joke people. He didn't say she should change her appearance or should be ashamed of it, he commented on it. You don't have to like it, you don't have to find it funny, you don't even have to find it in good taste but it's really nothing worth getting upset over. I'm sure this woman will survive the trauma of someone making a stupid joke about her butt. Hell, he wasn't even saying she looked bad so to say it's "shaming" doesn't make any sense. And even if he did, guess what? Not everyone is attracted to everything. It would be, at most, criticism, not shaming. Hashtag activists need a goddamn hobby. And a sense of perspective. And to realize that they need to stop white knighting people who didn't ask them to be their white knight. And news outlet need to stop reporting "people outraged over tweet" non-stories. There is literally nothing of merit about this kind of "drama"; it's just making a big thing of a complete non-issue and giving people the attention they haven't earned. At the end of the day, it comes down to an issue of consent. And consent is an incredibly important thing in our society, or at least it should be. The fact that a grown man with a successful career doesn't have the brainpower or moral stance to think "Oh hey, I'm going to take a photo of this stranger's behind without consent and post it on the internet with creepy comments." is an unpleasant way to behave is a reflection of larger issues. And if he gets away with it, what's to stop every licentious little creeper on the internet? I'd agree if it were a nude pic or a sex tape or something like that, but this is a joke about a mostly covered butt. Literally everything can be "a reflection of larger issues" if you think about it. If we have to constantly act like every little thing we do has world-wide repercussions then we might as well just all stay at home and do nothing but wait for death. THEN we'll know for sure we do nothing to offend anyone ever.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 17, 2015 17:04:45 GMT -5
He didn't take the picture though his girlfriend took it, then he added in a comment about what was going on in the background when he put it on social media. We don't even know if they were aware of her when they took it. Considering the girl takes up half the pic, it's likely they knew she was there. As far as consent, it sort of gets thrown out the window when you're walking around in a public setting. Were the actions tasteless? Sure. Were they illegal? Probably not. If anything, the most the girl could do is file some kind of civil suit claiming this all traumatized her. That's if she even knows her picture is out there. I think if anyone claims she is the girl, well, they'll have to prove it which would be the most awkward thing, so many women could come out and claim it was them and they know it'd be awkward to back up the claim by showing their ass. I know that reads weird, but you get the point-no one should say anything
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 17, 2015 17:07:26 GMT -5
I get that what he did is kind of a dick move but... *sigh*... people really need to stop acting like stuff like this is an important, world-changing event. Everything is "shaming" these days. It's a joke people. He didn't say she should change her appearance or should be ashamed of it, he commented on it. You don't have to like it, you don't have to find it funny, you don't even have to find it in good taste but it's really nothing worth getting upset over. I'm sure this woman will survive the trauma of someone making a stupid joke about her butt. Hell, he wasn't even saying she looked bad so to say it's "shaming" doesn't make any sense. And even if he did, guess what? Not everyone is attracted to everything. It would be, at most, criticism, not shaming. Hashtag activists need a goddamn hobby. And a sense of perspective. And to realize that they need to stop white knighting people who didn't ask them to be their white knight. And news outlet need to stop reporting "people outraged over tweet" non-stories. There is literally nothing of merit about this kind of "drama"; it's just making a big thing of a complete non-issue and giving people the attention they haven't earned. At the end of the day, it comes down to an issue of consent. And consent is an incredibly important thing in our society, or at least it should be. The fact that a grown man with a successful career doesn't have the brainpower or moral stance to think "Oh hey, I'm going to take a photo of this stranger's behind without consent and post it on the internet with creepy comments." is an unpleasant way to behave is a reflection of larger issues. And if he gets away with it, what's to stop every licentious little creeper on the internet? I'd agree if it were a nude pic or a sex tape or something like that, but this is a joke about a mostly covered butt. Literally everything can be "a reflection of larger issues" if you think about it. If we have to constantly act like every little thing we do has world-wide repercussions then we might as well just all stay at home and do nothing but wait for death. THEN we'll know for sure we do nothing to offend anyone ever. I think This is the best explanation to it all. Thing is that this is what done people get paid to do-follow stuff on social media and make mountains out of molehills-socisl media in some ways is the worst thing to happen to news-this is lazy
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 17, 2015 17:18:39 GMT -5
Is this going to turn into another thread where anyone who says something negative about the situation is apparantly "outraged"?
I'm not outraged, nor are others calling him out I assume. I just see a guy who's almost 40 acting like a sleazy douche and took a few seconds to comment on it.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Apr 17, 2015 17:20:30 GMT -5
I can't see anything on the article so I don't know what to be outraged about nvm now I see it he looks like a goofball
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 17, 2015 18:09:56 GMT -5
Eh, doesn't seem that big a deal to me. Yeah, it's a lil weird/out of bounds for posting something without her permission, that part I'll agree with; but the shaming part? Nah.
That peopleofwalmart site seems fair game. If that's not unfair, this ain't either. that said, if you think sites like that are bad as well, at least you're consistent.
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Post by bogey316 on Apr 17, 2015 19:00:18 GMT -5
He could have at least blurred out the girl's face or something. You...can't see her face. Did you mean blur out her ass?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2015 19:11:02 GMT -5
He could have cropped the pic or just not posted it, so whoever took the picture is entirely irrelevant. It's still skeevy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 19:50:06 GMT -5
Damn that ass is fine.
Dude is appreciating not hating WTF news media?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 17, 2015 20:23:11 GMT -5
I get that what he did is kind of a dick move but... *sigh*... people really need to stop acting like stuff like this is an important, world-changing event. Everything is "shaming" these days. It's a joke people. He didn't say she should change her appearance or should be ashamed of it, he commented on it. You don't have to like it, you don't have to find it funny, you don't even have to find it in good taste but it's really nothing worth getting upset over. I'm sure this woman will survive the trauma of someone making a stupid joke about her butt. Hell, he wasn't even saying she looked bad so to say it's "shaming" doesn't make any sense. And even if he did, guess what? Not everyone is attracted to everything. It would be, at most, criticism, not shaming. Hashtag activists need a goddamn hobby. And a sense of perspective. And to realize that they need to stop white knighting people who didn't ask them to be their white knight. And news outlet need to stop reporting "people outraged over tweet" non-stories. There is literally nothing of merit about this kind of "drama"; it's just making a big thing of a complete non-issue and giving people the attention they haven't earned. At the end of the day, it comes down to an issue of consent. And consent is an incredibly important thing in our society, or at least it should be. The fact that a grown man with a successful career doesn't have the brainpower or moral stance to think "Oh hey, I'm going to take a photo of this stranger's behind without consent and post it on the internet with creepy comments." is an unpleasant way to behave is a reflection of larger issues. And if he gets away with it, what's to stop every licentious little creeper on the internet? I'd agree if it were a nude pic or a sex tape or something like that, but this is a joke about a mostly covered butt. Literally everything can be "a reflection of larger issues" if you think about it. If we have to constantly act like every little thing we do has world-wide repercussions then we might as well just all stay at home and do nothing but wait for death. THEN we'll know for sure we do nothing to offend anyone ever. The only people likely to treat it like a life changing event are either Buble fans or those already interested in celebrity gossip. It's still essentially a side story on Time.com, while the front page is dominated entirely by political news, so I imagine this'll be forgotten in a week. This isn't a "slippery slope" case, it's just a celebrity taking creepy pictures and people are understandably calling him out on it. Are some of the charges against him overblown? Yeah, but that's a pretty minor issue in consideration, and as much as I love his version of Feeling Good, he's not the one who deserves sympathy here.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Apr 17, 2015 20:25:57 GMT -5
I feel like people spin a moral outrage spinning wheel, only in this case I think it falls more in the "Objectifying" category than "Body Shaming." There had to be a second spin. The first landed on "bigotry" and none of the comments made any sense contextually.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 17, 2015 20:26:04 GMT -5
The earth just needs to burn. The earth "needs to burn" because some people on the internet thought a pop singer was being gross?
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Post by Hakumental on Apr 17, 2015 20:38:54 GMT -5
That is indeed a booty of surpassing quality. God bless Miami.
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