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Post by eDemento2099 on Apr 22, 2015 0:27:45 GMT -5
Nailz legit choking out Vince McMahon?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 22, 2015 1:02:44 GMT -5
Nailz legit choking out Vince McMahon? Was that even known about publicly at the time? I imagine if it was, the only people anywhere who would know about it would be those reading the Observer if it was mentioned there, and if you were reading those, you were already well-clued in.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 22, 2015 5:35:21 GMT -5
I always thought it was weird that he was in the video for Piledriver. Like why are all these big bad dudes hanging out with the announcer?
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Apr 22, 2015 10:21:05 GMT -5
Nailz legit choking out Vince McMahon? Now I am imaging Nailz choking out Jack Tunney, because for some reason he hasn't been smartened up as to who actually runs the WWF.
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Apr 22, 2015 11:56:48 GMT -5
Interview with Larry King in 85 or 86, I think. I remember McMahon trying his best to gloss over the fact that there was another person (Flair) who was recognized as a world champion.
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Post by brody on Jun 11, 2015 9:38:30 GMT -5
Just saw Shieky Baby out Vince on the TNT that came right after Mania 1
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Post by thegame415 on Jun 11, 2015 23:36:56 GMT -5
On Howard Stern, Bret Hart alluded to the fact he thought Vince and HBK had a ....oh.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 7:30:20 GMT -5
Interview with Larry King in 85 or 86, I think. I remember McMahon trying his best to gloss over the fact that there was another person (Flair) who was recognized as a world champion. That's the one. The quarterly magazine Wrestling 86 (they would change the year depending on when it was released - think it lasted until 90-91) had a lot of stuff from that interview. The one that obviously stood out was Larry King asking if he would be considered the Howard Hughes of Wrestling and Vince replied "No, I am the Walt Disney of Wrestling". I know I still have it around the garage somewhere.
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Post by DjZonk on Jun 12, 2015 10:21:14 GMT -5
I had a sticker album in the early 90's (1993 probably) and Vince was labelled as the owner, or something to that effect.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 12, 2015 11:52:11 GMT -5
WWF Magazine
I was stunned when I read that he was named as the owner. To that point I always presumed he was just an announcer.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jun 12, 2015 11:58:28 GMT -5
I found out in the late 80's/early 90s via Mad magazine. They did a sendup of the WWF back when Ventura and McMahaon were the commentators.
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Post by darkpatriot on Jun 15, 2015 21:11:26 GMT -5
WWF magazine actually had him listed as owner in the publishing credits, that's how I learned. in that same vein im pretty sure i remember in the early 80's the credits of the tv shows listed VKM as owner .
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 15, 2015 21:30:20 GMT -5
Which is funny that the Apter mags would casually mention McMahon's ownership status when you consider how much they adhered to kayfabe back in the day! They were weird like that. They adhered to kayfabe a good bit, even creating a LOT of their own, but there were some ways they just didn't care. McMahon was often mentioned as owning the WWF. They were quick to point out gimmick changes at times (some of their Year-in-Reviews would even have articles that were nothing but lists of guys who changed identities). They LOVED to dredge up Hogan's pre-Hulkamania past (a lot of their coverage of the build-up to WM3 utilized the previous Hogan/Andre Shea Stadium match) and remind people he wasn't always a superhero. By the mid-to-late-80s, the Apter-mags seemed increasingly to have an axe to grind against the WWF at the time. They'd report on it, certainly, but you could tell that WWF wasn't playing the game with the Apter-mags as others did. The photography was almost exclusively live or third-party shots. The NWA and some of the other promotions were more likely either to provide promotional stills or to allow their talent to have studio shots taken with either their belts or whichever PWI award they'd won that year. With WWF, the award shots were always from a match finish or in-ring pose.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jun 16, 2015 0:18:02 GMT -5
I remember ESPN covering the Steroid Verdict and outing him as the owner
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 16, 2015 8:46:17 GMT -5
They were weird like that. They adhered to kayfabe a good bit, even creating a LOT of their own, but there were some ways they just didn't care. McMahon was often mentioned as owning the WWF. They were quick to point out gimmick changes at times (some of their Year-in-Reviews would even have articles that were nothing but lists of guys who changed identities). They LOVED to dredge up Hogan's pre-Hulkamania past (a lot of their coverage of the build-up to WM3 utilized the previous Hogan/Andre Shea Stadium match) and remind people he wasn't always a superhero. By the mid-to-late-80s, the Apter-mags seemed increasingly to have an axe to grind against the WWF at the time. They'd report on it, certainly, but you could tell that WWF wasn't playing the game with the Apter-mags as others did. The photography was almost exclusively live or third-party shots. The NWA and some of the other promotions were more likely either to provide promotional stills or to allow their talent to have studio shots taken with either their belts or whichever PWI award they'd won that year. With WWF, the award shots were always from a match finish or in-ring pose. Yep. When Vince launched his own WWF Magazine, he stopped letting Apter and his photographers, and any other magazines for that matter, at ringside. Stopped providing them with promo material and the like as well. Apter couldn't stop covering WWF since it was the biggest aspect of the industry, but he made sure there was usually at least one reference to "McMahon's circus" in each issue after that.
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