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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 23, 2015 20:25:28 GMT -5
Meh. I certainly don't think that 4 games is wrong, but I would not be too bothered if it gets reduced to 2 games.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:05:47 GMT -5
Not NFL News... But Michael Sam signed with the Montreal CFL team. Hope he won't get screwed. He'll probably wreck shop in Canada. The quality of play is a good bit lower and if nothing else he has a strong motor.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on May 24, 2015 14:20:38 GMT -5
The Patriots' secondary may have more holes in it than the plot to "The Dark Knight Rises"... Speaking of "The Dark Knight", it's possible that Brady-Belichick-Kraft could be the equivalent of Batman-Dent-Gordon, and that Brady taking the punishment for Deflategate is the equivalent of Batman taking the blame for Dent's murders and death.
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Post by MGH on May 25, 2015 11:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 25, 2015 11:52:46 GMT -5
Let's just stop arguing over this crap. The anti-Brady side will take whatever they will get or want more while the Brady side will see that this is wrong. My opinion is it doesn't matter what I believe, bottom line is this suspension will get reduced and ultimately everyone will still complain the next day. I will openly admit to hating the Patriots but I do think everything got overblown... and having read the original Wells Report for my Fins I do not have a lot of respect for him as an investigator (but that's a discussion for another day and has nothing to do with me feeling that my team was wronged), but I think that the punishment has everything to do with Goddell trying to save face from all the domestic violence issues from last year as well as the growing belief that Goddell doesn't know what he's doing and makes up the rules as he goes (which he kind of does). I also feel (and have mentioned in the past) that there is also a bit harsher punishment for Goddell to save face because of how close he is with Kraft (see people bringing up him burning the evidence from Spygate after seeing it), and the perception a lot of people have that the Pats are arrogant. Long story short, Goddell got himself in a no win situation and he has nobody to blame but himself.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on May 25, 2015 13:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 25, 2015 14:15:42 GMT -5
Now that Goodell is finally in freak-out mode over this kind of stuff, don't expect to ever see him play another down in the NFL. This is what, the third time accusations have surfaced about him?
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Post by andrew8798 on May 25, 2015 14:17:44 GMT -5
Ray bout to be kicked out of the NFL
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Post by andrew8798 on May 25, 2015 16:19:01 GMT -5
Bears released DE Ray McDonald.
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According to the Santa Clara Police Department, Bears DE Ray McDonald is accused of physically assaulting a woman "while she was holding a baby."
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 25, 2015 16:24:57 GMT -5
Well, don't let the door hit Ray on the ass on the way out.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 25, 2015 22:27:29 GMT -5
KL @ky1elong · 6h 6 hours ago
Good riddance
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Post by andrew8798 on May 26, 2015 16:46:52 GMT -5
So some people now want the NFL to punish the Bears for Signing him
One of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard
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Post by Pooh Carlson on May 26, 2015 17:24:41 GMT -5
So some people now want the NFL to punish the Bears for Signing him One of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard We've had Jay Cutler for five years and counting, that's punishment enough.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 26, 2015 18:22:49 GMT -5
So some people now want the NFL to punish the Bears for Signing him One of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard There currently isn't any grounds for doing so, but I think this is not something to be summarily dismissed out of hand for the future. Perhaps in the future signing a player cut by another team for behavior reasons should cost teams compensatory draft picks to the team that cut them. This would have two potential uses. First, it would help encourage teams to hold their players more accountable and make them less afraid to cut talented players that turn out to fail in the humanity department. It also will factor into deciding whether a troubled player is worth the risk of signing if teams have to give up a pick in order to sign the guy in the first place. That player had better have more value than the team thinks that they could get out of the pick. Some players will still qualify as worth it to some teams. Others will not, and will serve to be examples that being a star athlete in the NFL should stop being a convenient excuse for people to ignore bad behavior.
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Post by BRV on May 26, 2015 18:40:37 GMT -5
There currently isn't any grounds for doing so, but I think this is not something to be summarily dismissed out of hand for the future. Perhaps in the future signing a player cut by another team for behavior reasons should cost teams compensatory draft picks to the team that cut them. This would have two potential uses. First, it would help encourage teams to hold their players more accountable and make them less afraid to cut talented players that turn out to fail in the humanity department. It also will factor into deciding whether a troubled player is worth the risk of signing if teams have to give up a pick in order to sign the guy in the first place. That player had better have more value than the team thinks that they could get out of the pick. Some players will still qualify as worth it to some teams. Others will not, and will serve to be examples that being a star athlete in the NFL should stop being a convenient excuse for people to ignore bad behavior. With all due respect, I think we've stumbled upon the one thing that both the NFLPA and the 32 owners would NEVER agree upon. The NFLPA would want no part of it because it would be taking paychecks out of the pockets of many union members while actively dissuading teams from signing certain players. The owners would never, ever sign off on it because they don't want collateral damage to their franchise if one of their players gets busted for beating up his wife or girlfriend. Yes, it's nice PR for the league to say "we're taking a hard stance on off-field issues," but that scenario you laid out is about as likely to happen as unicorns taking the field every Sunday from September through February.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 26, 2015 18:56:45 GMT -5
There currently isn't any grounds for doing so, but I think this is not something to be summarily dismissed out of hand for the future. Perhaps in the future signing a player cut by another team for behavior reasons should cost teams compensatory draft picks to the team that cut them. This would have two potential uses. First, it would help encourage teams to hold their players more accountable and make them less afraid to cut talented players that turn out to fail in the humanity department. It also will factor into deciding whether a troubled player is worth the risk of signing if teams have to give up a pick in order to sign the guy in the first place. That player had better have more value than the team thinks that they could get out of the pick. Some players will still qualify as worth it to some teams. Others will not, and will serve to be examples that being a star athlete in the NFL should stop being a convenient excuse for people to ignore bad behavior. With all due respect, I think we've stumbled upon the one thing that both the NFLPA and the 32 owners would NEVER agree upon. The NFLPA would want no part of it because it would be taking paychecks out of the pockets of many union members while actively dissuading teams from signing certain players. The owners would never, ever sign off on it because they don't want collateral damage to their franchise if one of their players gets busted for beating up his wife or girlfriend. Yes, it's nice PR for the league to say "we're taking a hard stance on off-field issues," but that scenario you laid out is about as likely to happen as unicorns taking the field every Sunday from September through February. Also if the charges are found to be baseless or exaggerate you run the risk of collusion because no one wanted to sign a guy because of fear.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 26, 2015 19:26:07 GMT -5
There currently isn't any grounds for doing so, but I think this is not something to be summarily dismissed out of hand for the future. Perhaps in the future signing a player cut by another team for behavior reasons should cost teams compensatory draft picks to the team that cut them. This would have two potential uses. First, it would help encourage teams to hold their players more accountable and make them less afraid to cut talented players that turn out to fail in the humanity department. It also will factor into deciding whether a troubled player is worth the risk of signing if teams have to give up a pick in order to sign the guy in the first place. That player had better have more value than the team thinks that they could get out of the pick. Some players will still qualify as worth it to some teams. Others will not, and will serve to be examples that being a star athlete in the NFL should stop being a convenient excuse for people to ignore bad behavior. With all due respect, I think we've stumbled upon the one thing that both the NFLPA and the 32 owners would NEVER agree upon. The NFLPA would want no part of it because it would be taking paychecks out of the pockets of many union members while actively dissuading teams from signing certain players. The owners would never, ever sign off on it because they don't want collateral damage to their franchise if one of their players gets busted for beating up his wife or girlfriend. Yes, it's nice PR for the league to say "we're taking a hard stance on off-field issues," but that scenario you laid out is about as likely to happen as unicorns taking the field every Sunday from September through February. Can it happen now? No, the current CBA does not work out in that way right now. Can it never happen? Don't sell the idea so short. For starters, I doubt the owners would be too shy to agree to this. You said that teams would not want collateral damage to their franchise if one of their players beats up their girlfriend, but how would that be any different from how it is now? After all, the team doesn't HAVE to cut players who are accused of wrongdoing. For example, I don't recall the Steelers doing anything of note either of the two times Ben Roethlisberger was accused of rape. They did not have to and, as typical of "he said, she said" cases involving rich and famous guys, nothing became of either charges outside of Roethlisberger having to settle out of court with one of the women who accused him. The team did not suffer much in the way of collateral damage even when he got suspended 4 games over it all. They could have reacted in a completely different way, similar to how the Bears and 49ers have reacted to MacDonald. Obviously, they didn't, but they could have. Nothing was really stopping them from doing so. As far as the NFLPA goes, I don't know that they would have too many issues with such an idea either. I did not say that teams should be able to get out of paying guaranteed money when they release players that get into trouble. They shouldn't. While this idea would discourage rehiring of certain troubled players, it isn't like someone else would not get signed instead. The roster spot does not disappear if you don't hire Sir Beats-her-a lot to play for your team. Another thing to consider is that the NFL is kind of peaking now. They really don't have a lot of growth potential left. They mostly can only go down. The concussion issue isn't going away. Ray Rice shined a bright spotlight on the issue of domestic violence in the NFL (even if he was far from the worst violator recently). The hits keep coming and PR moves need to be taken. In the end, this idea really just screws over monsters masquerading as human athletes. Do you really expect the NFLPA to really go to bat for them if such players repeatedly make the players in the NFL look bad in general? Edit: BTW, it is not like I am talking about giving up first round picks to scoop up a player someone else released. I was thinking 3rd or 4th round picks. You know, something teams see value in but would not get too bent out of shape to give up under the right circumstances.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 26, 2015 19:34:59 GMT -5
Speaking of dumbasses
Via Samer Kalaf of Deadspin, Kaepernick used a photo of the flooding in Houston as the backdrop for this message: “I warned you the #7tormsComing,” with a #Houston hashtag.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 27, 2015 0:12:58 GMT -5
Speaking of dumbasses Via Samer Kalaf of Deadspin, Kaepernick used a photo of the flooding in Houston as the backdrop for this message: “I warned you the #7tormsComing,” with a #Houston hashtag. I would say that surely he cannot be that stupid, but I think that would come across as a challenge to top that.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 27, 2015 0:44:52 GMT -5
Speaking of dumbasses Via Samer Kalaf of Deadspin, Kaepernick used a photo of the flooding in Houston as the backdrop for this message: “I warned you the #7tormsComing,” with a #Houston hashtag. f***ing idiot. This is going to be a long season for the Niners. Off the field you've got this and on the field, well, it's going to be a huge mess.
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