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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 2, 2015 17:08:47 GMT -5
f*** the Panthers front office. Just totally f***ed negotiations for SEA and IND. Hey, just because you guys want to short change your QBs doesn't mean we have to help you in that regard. Not our problem.
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Post by thetower52 on Jun 2, 2015 17:33:13 GMT -5
f*** the Panthers front office. Just totally f***ed negotiations for SEA and IND. I'm surprised Paul Allen hasn't just told the Seahawks GM to give Wilson what ever the f*** he wants Cuz I'm sure that's what Allen has told the Blazers for LaMarcus Aldridge
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 2, 2015 17:40:35 GMT -5
f*** the Panthers front office. Just totally f***ed negotiations for SEA and IND. Hey, just because you guys want to short change your QBs doesn't mean we have to help you in that regard. Not our problem. Speaking as a Colts fan, it was never going to matter what any other QB got on their contract. Luck will eventually get paid the maximum they can without crippling the team. Seattle is a slightly different case. Russell works like gangbusters now, but he has to show that he can transition to pocket passing. Once he shows that, Seattle's hesitation in paying him will disappear, or at least it would for me.
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Post by SUPES on Jun 2, 2015 18:14:38 GMT -5
f*** the Panthers front office. Just totally f***ed negotiations for SEA and IND. Hey, just because you guys want to short change your QBs doesn't mean we have to help you in that regard. Not our problem. It's not short-changing, it's him realizing that as great as he's been, he's not Brady or Rodgers. They actually have to go up against the league's best defense, while he simply stands on the sidelines rooting for that unit. You guys severely overpaid Newton btw, and I'd be pissed as a Panthers fan. May as well have kept Hurney in the front office.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 2, 2015 18:18:13 GMT -5
Hey, just because you guys want to short change your QBs doesn't mean we have to help you in that regard. Not our problem. It's not short-changing, it's him realizing that as great as he's been, he's not Brady or Rodgers. They actually have to go up against the league's best defense, while he simply stands on the sidelines rooting for that unit. You guys severely overpaid Newton btw, and I'd be pissed as a Panthers fan. May as well have kept Hurney in the front office. Well, you also have to think about this. Some of that money is also a give-back for the years he spent under that current deal as the first player taken under the new CBA deal that limits draft pick salaries. So yeah....I'm happy with the deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 20:16:41 GMT -5
I've got the feeling that Cam's play is going to level off now that he got a huge deal. Maybe I'll be wrong but that's my gut feeling on it.
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Post by BRV on Jun 2, 2015 20:28:10 GMT -5
For the one-trillionth time, you need to look at the guaranteed dollars in a contract, not the total figure.
Yes, Cam Newton's contract is five years for $103.8 million, but in reality it is a five-year deal with $60 million guaranteed. Yes, that's a large sum of money, which some would describe as exorbitant, but again, before everyone freaks out about a contract, they need to wait until the guaranteed money is made public.
The only part of the deal that could impact the Colts' and Seahawks' negotiations with Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson is the fact that Newton's guaranteed money accounts for about 58 percent of the total contract. Which is nothing when you compare it to what the Lions gave Matthew Stafford, as his $41.5 million guaranteed money accounts for approximately 78 percent of his full contract.
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Post by Ganon83 on Jun 2, 2015 23:17:50 GMT -5
Who gets more money, Wilson, Luck, or Newton?
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Post by Killah Ray on Jun 2, 2015 23:21:36 GMT -5
For the one-trillionth time, you need to look at the guaranteed dollars in a contract, not the total figure. Yes, Cam Newton's contract is five years for $103.8 million, but in reality it is a five-year deal with $60 million guaranteed. Yes, that's a large sum of money, which some would describe as exorbitant, but again, before everyone freaks out about a contract, they need to wait until the guaranteed money is made public. The only part of the deal that could impact the Colts' and Seahawks' negotiations with Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson is the fact that Newton's guaranteed money accounts for about 58 percent of the total contract. Which is nothing when you compare it to what the Lions gave Matthew Stafford, as his $41.5 million guaranteed money accounts for approximately 78 percent of his full contract. When the salary cap eventually hits 200 million, Cam's deal will look like a bargain. And considering the going rate for a franchise quarterback, I'm perfectly happy with the deal.
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Post by Killah Ray on Jun 2, 2015 23:23:05 GMT -5
Who gets more money, Wilson, Luck, or Newton? I'd guess Luck given everyone that Seattle has to pay.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 3, 2015 0:04:51 GMT -5
Who gets more money, Wilson, Luck, or Newton? It depends. If spending was unlimited then the obvious choice would be Luck. No team is as dependent on their QB for any success quite the way the Colts are. Having said that, I think Luck might be willing to take a little less money than he could demand if they can resign players that make his job easier. I think he would insist on Costonzo and Fleener getting resigned, if nothing else (he would want to keep Hilton too, though the team is stupid rich in speedsters and that might make him slightly redundant). If it means that one of those guys might leave, he might decide he can afford to take less to keep them. Don't get me wrong, I find Allen more valuable than Fleener, but Fleener has stayed healthier.
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Post by rocket on Jun 3, 2015 11:52:15 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 3, 2015 12:03:55 GMT -5
I hope YAHOO has the resources and is prepared to handle all 7 potential viewers of a Bills/Jags game
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Post by rocket on Jun 3, 2015 12:19:16 GMT -5
That's probably why they chose that game for this experiment.
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Post by Reflecto on Jun 3, 2015 14:51:37 GMT -5
I hope YAHOO has the resources and is prepared to handle all 7 potential viewers of a Bills/Jags game ...according to other claims, Yahoo paid 20 million for this opportunity. $20 million. To air ONE GAME. Between BUFFALO AND JACKSONVILLE. ...can we just hand everything in American culture to pro football right up to awarding the Presidency to the Super Bowl MVP now and get it over with?
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jun 4, 2015 1:00:52 GMT -5
If Brady is the Ric Flair of the NFL, and Peyton the Hulk Hogan, does that make Eli the Sting (as in, "The Dumbest Man in Football")?
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jun 4, 2015 4:15:50 GMT -5
If Brady is the Ric Flair of the NFL, and Peyton the Hulk Hogan, does that make Eli the Sting (as in, "The Dumbest Man in Football")? Brett Favre would be the Seth Rollins of the NFL for one small reason.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 4, 2015 4:48:27 GMT -5
If Brady is the Ric Flair of the NFL, and Peyton the Hulk Hogan, does that make Eli the Sting (as in, "The Dumbest Man in Football")? Brett Favre would be the Seth Rollins of the NFL for one small reason. But Rollins doesn't cock it up in pressure situations.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jun 4, 2015 10:23:20 GMT -5
If Brady is the Ric Flair of the NFL, and Peyton the Hulk Hogan, does that make Eli the Sting (as in, "The Dumbest Man in Football")? Brett Favre would be the Seth Rollins of the NFL for one small reason. I see what you did there. Oh, and Goodell could be either Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff, or Dixie Carter.
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Post by BRV on Jun 4, 2015 15:45:00 GMT -5
John Bowlen Jr., son of Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, was arrested on a domestic violence charge Wednesday night.
Bowlen Jr. "works in a variety of positions with the Broncos," according to the Denver Post.
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