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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on May 18, 2015 22:23:39 GMT -5
Dammit, we got the Razor Ramon figure from Mattel but they've yet to get to his red & black stuff. Think of the collectors, Scott!
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Post by Andy Martin on May 18, 2015 22:38:44 GMT -5
I will never get how someone with such a great mind, can be so stupid?! I get that he is addicted, but why can't he just say "no"? Because addiction is a powerful, awful thing.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 18, 2015 22:43:51 GMT -5
given multiple chances to sober up but wouldn't?
Hall: damn it, my body just won't get the alcohol out of my body fast enough
Promoter: You have til the count of three. One...two...two and a half....two and three quarters....makes....
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 18, 2015 23:08:16 GMT -5
I think the major thing that makes him relapse is being involved in the wrestling business, back when he was with Jake and DDP he was in a clean environment, not anywhere near a bar with enablers.
I get it that he's never ever gonna make his demons dissapear, but he could control them better by changing the environment.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 18, 2015 23:08:26 GMT -5
I will never get how someone with such a great mind, can be so stupid?! I get that he is addicted, but why can't he just say "no"? Clearly you don't know what it's like to be addicted. If it was that easy then we wouldn't need rehab centers and all those medications to get you to quit smoking and ext. Hall HAS been doing very well for someone recovering. This kind of stuff DOES happen because when you do it for so long in your life. It is VERY hard to keep sober and it has nothing to do being stupid then trying to fight the craving or the habit. I wonder if you ever been around anybody during a time of quitting an addition.
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Post by thetower52 on May 18, 2015 23:16:21 GMT -5
Wouldn't be suprised if some asshole Indy guy got him drunk. When Jake the Snake did a show out here some of the locker tried to get him drunk to
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on May 18, 2015 23:56:57 GMT -5
What a slap in the face to all the people who donated to his Kickstarter fund.
Pathetic.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 19, 2015 0:36:09 GMT -5
I think the major thing that makes him relapse is being involved in the wrestling business, back when he was with Jake and DDP he was in a clean environment, not anywhere near a bar with enablers. I get it that he's never ever gonna make his demons dissapear, but he could control them better by changing the environment. He wasn't clean with them either if memory serves. I think there were issues with him and Cody both getting drunk and fighting each other. And with his mental issues, I don't even think getting away from wrestling would help.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 19, 2015 0:44:55 GMT -5
I think the major thing that makes him relapse is being involved in the wrestling business, back when he was with Jake and DDP he was in a clean environment, not anywhere near a bar with enablers. I get it that he's never ever gonna make his demons dissapear, but he could control them better by changing the environment. He wasn't clean with them either if memory serves. I think there were issues with him and Cody both getting drunk and fighting each other. And with his mental issues, I don't even think getting away from wrestling would help. f*** I didn't knew that he got drunk during that time. It's just too much baggage, hell he shot that guy allegedly on self defense when he was a bouncer, I don't think it ever left him.
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Post by Captain & Diet on May 19, 2015 1:29:48 GMT -5
TMZ might not be the heir to Edward R Murrow's badge of integrity, but they break far bigger entertainment and sports stories than Hall falling off the wagon regularly. Once they broke the Michael Jackson death news, that pretty well took care of me doubting em when it comes to the entertainment news. They broke the Paul Walker story, too. Unfortunately, they're legit.
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Post by bigjohnsons on May 19, 2015 9:54:25 GMT -5
Addiction is hard , going thru one myself I can say ..quiting is easier said than done
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Post by DjZonk on May 19, 2015 10:55:41 GMT -5
Once they broke the Michael Jackson death news, that pretty well took care of me doubting em when it comes to the entertainment news. They broke the Paul Walker story, too. Unfortunately, they're legit. Yeah when the Jacko thing happened I was holding out hope it was fake as all the "major" news sources were quoting TMZ for half an hour before it was confirmed elsewhere.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on May 19, 2015 11:04:42 GMT -5
Hate to see Scott struggle like this.
A good friend of mine is an alcoholic and he struggles constantly. I do what I can to support him (rides to meetings, etc) and I honestly hope that he can get his demons in order. He's a very bright dude.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 19, 2015 11:51:41 GMT -5
I will never get how someone with such a great mind, can be so stupid?! I get that he is addicted, but why can't he just say "no"? Clearly you don't know what it's like to be addicted. If it was that easy then we wouldn't need rehab centers and all those medications to get you to quit smoking and ext. Hall HAS been doing very well for someone recovering. This kind of stuff DOES happen because when you do it for so long in your life. It is VERY hard to keep sober and it has nothing to do being stupid then trying to fight the craving or the habit. I wonder if you ever been around anybody during a time of quitting an addition. Yeah, if it were as easy as just saying no addiction wouldn't really be a thing.
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Post by chazraps on May 19, 2015 11:57:18 GMT -5
I will never get how someone with such a great mind, can be so stupid?! I get that he is addicted, but why can't he just say "no"? I don't think you "get" addiction.
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Post by Orange on May 19, 2015 11:58:47 GMT -5
I don't know about this, personally. I watched the video and he didn't sound or look impaired to me at all, and on top of that Jake walked right past him and didn't look concerned at all.
We've all seen Scott incredibly intoxicated, unfortunately, but if you take a second to watch the video this doesn't seem as bad as TMZ is making it out to be.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 19, 2015 14:26:42 GMT -5
SCOTT HALL UPDATE by Mike Johnson @ 3:06 PM on 5/19/2015
I'm not sure 100% if this is connection to Scott Hall's issues over the weekend, but Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling has removed him from their roster page and he is no longer booked for dates with the company.
A source close to Hall claimed that Hall was given drinks by roadies for one of the bands playing at the festival over the weekend, which combined pro wrestling and music. Hall flew to visit with Diamond Dallas Page, who has been instrumental at getting Hall to turn his life around.
DDP spoke about the incident with TMZ.com, saying recovery is a process and people shouldn't give up on Hall. He's 100% right about that and we wish Hall and his family the best.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 19, 2015 14:47:40 GMT -5
Failing is a part of healing. I remember hearing an expression, that falling off the wagon is the end of a relapse, not the beginning, meaning that the decisions leading up to using again are what needs to be examined, not just that they've stumbled. I hope he can figure out what he needs to do to get his shit together. Scott Hall has burned off a lot of good will with me, and I am sure others, but I still really do want him to fix himself.
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Post by willywonka666 on May 19, 2015 15:25:13 GMT -5
SCOTT HALL UPDATE by Mike Johnson @ 3:06 PM on 5/19/2015 I'm not sure 100% if this is connection to Scott Hall's issues over the weekend, but Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling has removed him from their roster page and he is no longer booked for dates with the company. A source close to Hall claimed that Hall was given drinks by roadies for one of the bands playing at the festival over the weekend, which combined pro wrestling and music. Hall flew to visit with Diamond Dallas Page, who has been instrumental at getting Hall to turn his life around. DDP spoke about the incident with TMZ.com, saying recovery is a process and people shouldn't give up on Hall. He's 100% right about that and we wish Hall and his family the best. I'm almost of the belief that those assholes should be brought up on charges-especially if they know Scott's history-and who doesn't?
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Post by abjordans on May 20, 2015 5:38:34 GMT -5
Hall was a freaking featured player at Wrestlemania. He had the GFW thing lined up. He should only do these little piss ant indy appearances if Nash is with him.
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