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Post by blackmegaman on May 27, 2015 21:08:10 GMT -5
Begins and ends with Christian for me. He shines in TNA while in WWE he struggles to outshine people like Heath Slater. In TNA, Christian was the last NWA Champion for the company, and he held that belt for what felt like a lengthy reign for mid-2000 standards. In WWE, they just couldn't wait to get the belt back on Randy Orton, a guy that failed to connect as a babyface, after winning the WHC. So, I would make the comment that Christian Cage meant more in TNA than he did in WWE. Too bad Christian himself doesn't feel that way about his run there.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 27, 2015 21:18:39 GMT -5
Begins and ends with Christian for me. He shines in TNA while in WWE he struggles to outshine people like Heath Slater. In TNA, Christian was the last NWA Champion for the company, and he held that belt for what felt like a lengthy reign for mid-2000 standards. In WWE, they just couldn't wait to get the belt back on Randy Orton, a guy that failed to connect as a babyface, after winning the WHC. So, I would make the comment that Christian Cage meant more in TNA than he did in WWE. Christian is still more WWE to me than he is a TNA star. Everybody is still up in arms about losing the title but in my opinion it propelled probably the best feud of that year and they brought out the best of each other. If the Hall of Fame means anything in WWE then that was his stamped ticket into their as a singles star. He was never the man but a very important piece.
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Post by BigAl on May 28, 2015 2:42:55 GMT -5
That one Highlander that showed up in the crowd of TNA. So true
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 28, 2015 11:17:29 GMT -5
Angle, Bully and I think Hardy have been in TNA longer than they were in WWE Angle yes, Bully possibly. Hardy no. Hardy was in the WWE since he was like 18. His first match in WWF was 1994 against Razor Ramon and appeared off and on as a jobber throughout the 90's Though he wasn't a regular wrestler until like 1998, he didn't leave till 2003. so 5 years. he was in TNA for 2 years, then came back for another 5 in the WWE He's been in TNA for 7, and other than the Jobber stuff 10 years in WWE as a featured wrestler... 14 if you count his jobber stuff In TNA, Christian was the last NWA Champion for the company, and he held that belt for what felt like a lengthy reign for mid-2000 standards. In WWE, they just couldn't wait to get the belt back on Randy Orton, a guy that failed to connect as a babyface, after winning the WHC. So, I would make the comment that Christian Cage meant more in TNA than he did in WWE. Christian is still more WWE to me than he is a TNA star. Everybody is still up in arms about losing the title but in my opinion it propelled probably the best feud of that year and they brought out the best of each other. If the Hall of Fame means anything in WWE then that was his stamped ticket into their as a singles star. He was never the man but a very important piece. the Edge and Christian run and later his Captain Charisma run stamped his ticket a long time ago... that title run probably put it over the top.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2015 11:30:21 GMT -5
Christian is still more WWE to me than he is a TNA star. Everybody is still up in arms about losing the title but in my opinion it propelled probably the best feud of that year and they brought out the best of each other. If the Hall of Fame means anything in WWE then that was his stamped ticket into their as a singles star. He was never the man but a very important piece. the Edge and Christian run and later his Captain Charisma run stamped his ticket a long time ago... that title run probably put it over the top. He was in as Edge and Christain automatically but if you wanted to put that aside and put him in as a singles star too without to much bones about it I believe that run cemented him. Like I said people are still up in arms about that but that did much more good for him than harm. When healthy he's on top of his game but the disclaimer is when healthy.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on May 28, 2015 12:32:54 GMT -5
If Kurt Angle showed up in WWE and had his original music and gold medal, I wouldnt devote a single second of thought to his TNA run.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on May 28, 2015 12:39:24 GMT -5
You know who's a TNA guy to me? Scott Steiner.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 16:11:37 GMT -5
In TNA, Christian was the last NWA Champion for the company, and he held that belt for what felt like a lengthy reign for mid-2000 standards. In WWE, they just couldn't wait to get the belt back on Randy Orton, a guy that failed to connect as a babyface, after winning the WHC. So, I would make the comment that Christian Cage meant more in TNA than he did in WWE. Christian is still more WWE to me than he is a TNA star. Everybody is still up in arms about losing the title but in my opinion it propelled probably the best feud of that year and they brought out the best of each other. If the Hall of Fame means anything in WWE then that was his stamped ticket into their as a singles star. He was never the man but a very important piece. I know, but I just can't get beyond that Christian/Orton feud. Even if the matches were great, they kept insisting that one guy was far superior.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 28, 2015 16:50:11 GMT -5
If Kurt Angle showed up in WWE and had his original music and gold medal, I wouldnt devote a single second of thought to his TNA run. Wholeheartedly agree, and I would put Jeff Hardy in the same boat. Even though they've both probably spent more time in TNA at this point, them going back to WWE just feels like it would elicit a "Welcome Home". I would say EC3, Gail Kim, and Mr. Anderson feel more like TNA stars. I'd also add D'Angelo Dinero to that list. The quick spell he spent as Elijah Burke isn't worth much more than a trivia question compared to his time as The Pope.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:24:20 GMT -5
A few people had a better run in TNA, but in terms of "TNA guys" the only people I really view that way are AJ Styles, Abyss, James Storm, Bobby Roode, Eric Young, and Shark Boy.
Everyone else is an ROH, ECW, WCW, or WWE guy to me in terms of their legacy.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 29, 2015 13:35:14 GMT -5
Strongly disagree on Angle. He might have been in TNA longer than WWE, but his WWE achievements in his rookie year alone trump the achievements of his entire TNA stay.
One could make the argument that he's as much a TNA guy as a WWE guy, but even that's a stretch. Unlike Hogan, for example, who can legitimately lay claim to being both a WWE and WCW guy, there was no huge reinvention of character. TNA Angle has pretty much been an extension of the WWECW wrestling machine Kurt.
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