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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jun 8, 2015 21:35:35 GMT -5
TV and movie edition, of course for here. We have the wrestling one already.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 8, 2015 21:44:31 GMT -5
Hm, first one that comes to mind is the whole Silent Hill 4 wasn't a Silent Hill game at first. Silent Hill 4 was always a Silent Hill game.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 8, 2015 22:22:04 GMT -5
Thanks to parody and pop culture caricature, James T. Kirk has been exaggerated into a rule breaking, womanzing, Starfleed cowboy sooner to punch an alien in the face than anything else. If one actually watches the entire run of TOS, he typically has good reasons for violating or ignoring the prime directive, gets involved with women often for the sake of a mission, and is rarely the instigator in any physical fight. It also ignores that while Kirk did fly by the seat of his pants with his plans, he could very often be a thoughtful, strategic, and intellectual commanding officer.
Hell even Trek canon got into this, with Janeway describing the TOS era crew as likely being booted out of Starfleet in the current era, which not only strikes me as dubious, but pretty galling considering what she's pulled off. Unfortunately the Jim in Abrams' films feels inspired by this exaggeration too, never getting anywhere close Kirk's introspective depth in an episode like Balance of Terror or the Ultimate Computer.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Jun 8, 2015 22:32:18 GMT -5
"All of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies sucked, and Tobey McGuire always sucked as Peter Parker!"
I sure as hell never saw this get thrown around when Spider-Man 2 was in theaters.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 8, 2015 22:35:02 GMT -5
Some people insist that Han shot first... these people are crazy >_> <_<
Seriously though...
James Bond is a codename.
The movies have actively contradicted this but people love sticking to it.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jun 8, 2015 23:04:51 GMT -5
That Jimmy Valiant once ******** himself under a glass table while Uma Thurman's character from Pulp Fiction ******** over it?
(Am I doing it right?)
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Post by the2ndevil on Jun 8, 2015 23:08:09 GMT -5
"All of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies sucked, and Tobey McGuire always sucked as Peter Parker!" I sure as hell never saw this get thrown around when Spider-Man 2 was in theaters. That's because Spider-Man 2 was Raimi's only good Spider-Man movie.
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Post by Malcolm on Jun 8, 2015 23:45:14 GMT -5
SatAM Robotnik was Sega Genesis Robotnik.
Even if you try to use the excuse that the game's stories were ambiguous in the the Genesis games and that the games were "open to interpretation" the biggest flaw with this belief is that the game sprites don't freaking match his SatAM(or AOSTH) counterparts' character designs. They're both Robotniks but they're not the same characters.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jun 8, 2015 23:54:20 GMT -5
The trend to justify "the villain was right all along!" except for the fact he wasn't. For example, people insisting Sauron was a good guy because he gave rights to the Orcs who were treated as scum by the rest of the Middle Earth... conveniently ignoring the fact that Orcs were enslaved by Sauron and, (unless I'm mistaken) were created evil. Or people insisting Scar was right because he made the Hyenas equal... again ignoring the fact he used them solely as pawns to get power and once it benefited him tried to throw them under a train to stop Simba killing him.
Also, the annoying trend of spinning some elaborate, shitty "dark" alternative theory like the rugrats are all figments of Angelica's imagination or whatever that shitty one is. I do like fan-theories but so many are shit. (My favourite Rugrats one is that the parents are swingers. It's fun, simple and believeable).
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 9, 2015 0:33:42 GMT -5
The trend to justify "the villain was right all along!" except for the fact he wasn't. For example, people insisting Sauron was a good guy because he gave rights to the Orcs who were treated as scum by the rest of the Middle Earth... conveniently ignoring the fact that Orcs were enslaved by Sauron and, (unless I'm mistaken) were created evil. Or people insisting Scar was right because he made the Hyenas equal... again ignoring the fact he used them solely as pawns to get power and once it benefited him tried to throw them under a train to stop Simba killing him. Also, the annoying trend of spinning some elaborate, shitty "dark" alternative theory like the rugrats are all figments of Angelica's imagination or whatever that shitty one is. I do like fan-theories but so many are shit. (My favourite Rugrats one is that the parents are swingers. It's fun, simple and believeable). Yeah, the Orcs were enslaved by Sauron and there are a few stories that suggest their origin that vary but they all pretty much come back to they are pretty much made of evil. Either they're elves that were tortured and corrupted by evil magic, creatures made from slime by evil magic, they're just mindless beasts being controlled by evil magic... there are a few others but it always comes back to Sauron or Melkor or Morgoth or any of the supreme evils created or controlled them with magic. The Dark Rugrats one also just doesn't make any sense in the scope of the show like at all... in universe it doesn't work.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 9, 2015 2:25:49 GMT -5
Some people insist that Han shot first... these people are crazy >_> <_< Yeah, Han didn't shoot first, Han was the only one who shot.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 9, 2015 5:53:17 GMT -5
Star Wars fans insisting that the prequels make coherent sense.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 9, 2015 6:47:37 GMT -5
Hm, first one that comes to mind is the whole Silent Hill 4 wasn't a Silent Hill game at first. Silent Hill 4 was always a Silent Hill game. If I understand correctly, there is a teensy bit of truth to it in that it wasn't meant to be one during the pre-production stages. So basically, it's technically true, but only in the sense that after they started bouncing ideas, someone said "hey, wait a minute, we already have a psychological horror action-adventure franchise. Why don't we just make it a sequel instead of competing with out own work?". Speaking of Silent Hill, the idea that the monsters are actually people and the main characters are hallucinating. I'm sorry but that just does not make sense. Why are there people you see as normal people, then? And how come there's so few monsters when, if you really were going on a delusional killing spree, you'd think they'd be all over the place on account of the cops, if not the military, coming after you? How come no-one mentions how weird it is that people keep going on murder sprees there? How are the characters who w know for a fact make it out of the town, such as Harry Mason, immediately arrested, if not killed? What about the many monsters that clearly do not act in a way that any human could? What I find particularly irritating about this theory is that it's entirely based on a single random line of dialogue spoken by Vincent in the third game: "Monsters? They look like monsters to you?". Yeah sure, clearly the insane guy who works for a homicidal apocalyptic cult has the right idea. Seems to me like it'd make more sense that it's meant to show that HE's crazy for NOT seeing them as monsters. And yet, despite this whole theory relying entirely on that one insignificant detail, many people just won't let go of it and insist that it's true. I also love the fact that they believe that quote, but not the one right after that where he says "don't worry... it's just a joke!".
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 9, 2015 8:18:24 GMT -5
Every single time people have an unnecessarily, overwhelmingly dark and gritty head canon for anything that is bright, fun and colourful.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 9, 2015 8:19:22 GMT -5
even after the extended endings fixed most people's complaints about the original ending, there were some Mass Effect fans that were infuriated that their absolutely insane theories about Sheppard being indoctrinated were wrong (as if that somehow would've been better than what did happen).
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Post by Sparvid on Jun 9, 2015 10:20:35 GMT -5
Thanks to parody and pop culture caricature, James T. Kirk has been exaggerated into a rule breaking, womanzing, Starfleed cowboy sooner to punch an alien in the face than anything else. If one actually watches the entire run of TOS, he typically has good reasons for violating or ignoring the prime directive, gets involved with women often for the sake of a mission, and is rarely the instigator in any physical fight. It also ignores that while Kirk did fly by the seat of his pants with his plans, he could very often be a thoughtful, strategic, and intellectual commanding officer. Hell even Trek canon got into this, with Janeway describing the TOS era crew as likely being booted out of Starfleet in the current era, which not only strikes me as dubious, but pretty galling considering what she's pulled off. Unfortunately the Jim in Abrams' films feels inspired by this exaggeration too, never getting anywhere close Kirk's introspective depth in an episode like Balance of Terror or the Ultimate Computer. Years ago I saw a post where someone made a list of all the women that Kirk had been involved with during TOS, and after taking stuff like mind control, etc into account, it wasn't a particularly long list.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 10:35:40 GMT -5
That Mr Freeze says "Ice to see you" in Batman and Robin.
I've watched that film a few times and I've never heard it.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 9, 2015 10:41:26 GMT -5
That Mr Freeze says "Ice to see you" in Batman and Robin. I've watched that film a few times and I've never heard it. People are probably thrown off because it was a line in The Simpsons from one of the McBain sequences.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 9, 2015 10:44:30 GMT -5
Thanks to parody and pop culture caricature, James T. Kirk has been exaggerated into a rule breaking, womanzing, Starfleed cowboy sooner to punch an alien in the face than anything else. If one actually watches the entire run of TOS, he typically has good reasons for violating or ignoring the prime directive, gets involved with women often for the sake of a mission, and is rarely the instigator in any physical fight. It also ignores that while Kirk did fly by the seat of his pants with his plans, he could very often be a thoughtful, strategic, and intellectual commanding officer. Hell even Trek canon got into this, with Janeway describing the TOS era crew as likely being booted out of Starfleet in the current era, which not only strikes me as dubious, but pretty galling considering what she's pulled off. Unfortunately the Jim in Abrams' films feels inspired by this exaggeration too, never getting anywhere close Kirk's introspective depth in an episode like Balance of Terror or the Ultimate Computer. Years ago I saw a post where someone made a list of all the women that Kirk had been involved with during TOS, and after taking stuff like mind control, etc into account, it wasn't a particularly long list. In fact, far from being a successful ladies man, Kirk's history with women is full of tragedy and regret. Carol Marcus being the most notable example. And as far as being a rule breaking cowboy, Kirk faced serious consequences for it in Star Trek VI where General Chang used it against him in court.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jun 9, 2015 12:24:55 GMT -5
It's not TV or film related but "Courtney killed Kurt" as an accepted fact bugs me.
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