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Post by mcstoklasa on Jun 9, 2015 12:11:53 GMT -5
Sure, the new Terminator; Terminator Genisys might not be good, who knows, but this is very impressive CGI face replacement. In the film, we will see the 1984 Terminator Arnold from the first movie, recreated and facing off against another Arnold. For comparison, here is the CG Arnold from Terminator Salvation:
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 9, 2015 12:20:34 GMT -5
Looks worse than the Scorpion King.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 12:51:34 GMT -5
Not bad, but the fact that they had to do this is just further proof that the movie shouldn't happen.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 9, 2015 12:56:29 GMT -5
I am pretty impressed, but then again, when it's moving will probably be the test.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jun 9, 2015 13:05:50 GMT -5
Not bad, but the fact that they had to do this is just further proof that the movie shouldn't happen. Why? They go back to the events of the first film but then twist of somewhere else www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqgdNVTcRAFootage of it in motion at 20 seconds in
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 9, 2015 13:55:04 GMT -5
Sure, the new Terminator; Terminator Genisys might not be good, who knows, but this is very impressive CGI face replacement. In the film, we will see the 1984 Terminator Arnold from the first movie, recreated and facing off against another Arnold. For comparison, here is the CG Arnold from Terminator Salvation: The first picture has noticeable doll eyes, but the second picture is pretty much life-like. I wonder if you had showed just that one picture, who of us could tell it was real or not.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 9, 2015 13:57:37 GMT -5
"Sayahhhhhh Conyahhhhhh?"
"Yes"
BOOM!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 14:32:04 GMT -5
To be fair you can take a freeze frame screenshot of CGI and it usually looks like shit. In motion it looks a lot better. CGI motion is CGI makeup that hides away a lot of the imperfections. Then there is Transformers that abuse this rule and hence the term Robot Barf is created.
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Post by Cela on Jun 9, 2015 14:42:01 GMT -5
I don't get the hate when it comes to these things, same with video games. It's impressive as hell work, but then people yell fake because it's not completely human. It will look better in 4 years, and people will still find something to nitpick.
And I liked Salvation Arnold, so... what do I know.
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Post by Essential1 on Jun 9, 2015 14:44:28 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to this but why is a Chinese guy trying to be T1000 and why didn't Arnold dye his hair?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 14:54:00 GMT -5
I don't get the hate when it comes to these things, same with video games. It's impressive as hell work, but then people yell fake because it's not completely human. It will look better in 4 years, and people will still find something to nitpick. And I liked Salvation Arnold, so... what do I know. People tend to forget that practical effects can look really fake as well and show its age really bad. Some effects I do wish they go back to being practical like blood but I understand why they make it CGI because it's easier to shoot it on production and you can do more takes and there isn't any delays of filming when something goes wrong and time is absurdly expensive money when shooting
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jun 9, 2015 14:58:08 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to this but why is a Chinese guy trying to be T1000 and why didn't Arnold dye his hair? The Terminator models, T800, T1000 etc all have different model variations. Arnold is a T800, but there would be T800's with different faces, haircuts and in different ethnicities and probably genders. Re: ageing. Whilst the T-800 combat chassis remains more-or-less ageless, the flesh wrapped around it is as vulnerable to the effects of time as our own.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 9, 2015 15:16:00 GMT -5
To be fair you can take a freeze frame screenshot of CGI and it usually looks like shit. In motion it looks a lot better. I usually find that it goes the other way around: a CGI screenshot can look convincing but the unnatural motion makes it lose credibility, unless it's from a distance. I don't get the hate when it comes to these things, same with video games. It's impressive as hell work, but then people yell fake because it's not completely human. It will look better in 4 years, and people will still find something to nitpick. And I liked Salvation Arnold, so... what do I know. Well, when something is supposed to be real but clearly isn't, it doesn't matter how good it looks, it's still distracting. It only makes things worse when directors use it as a crutch even when practical effects are an option. In my opinion, if something can be done in practical effects, it should be done in practical effects; CGI should be used to complete practical stuff, not replace it. Not sure where you're coming from about video games. I don't remember anyone complaining about CGI in video games. Especially since, you know, EVERYTHING is CGI there. I don't get the hate when it comes to these things, same with video games. It's impressive as hell work, but then people yell fake because it's not completely human. It will look better in 4 years, and people will still find something to nitpick. And I liked Salvation Arnold, so... what do I know. People tend to forget that practical effects can look really fake as well and show its age really bad. Still nowhere near as much as CGI does unless it's used smartly like in Jurassic Park. Plus practical effects have the advantage of actually being there. The actors have something to interact with and just the fact that there actually is something tangible on screen already makes it more convincing, not to mention the myriad of tiny but important details that give away that they just overlayed a picture on top of the footage and that are nearly impossible to recreate digitally.
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Post by SkullTrauma on Jun 9, 2015 15:19:50 GMT -5
The first picture has noticeable doll eyes, but the second picture is pretty much life-like. I wonder if you had showed just that one picture, who of us could tell it was real or not. lol... the first three pictures are of the actual Arnold from the 80s. only the last one is CGI.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 9, 2015 15:28:51 GMT -5
The first picture has noticeable doll eyes, but the second picture is pretty much life-like. I wonder if you had showed just that one picture, who of us could tell it was real or not. lol... the first three pictures are of the actual Arnold from the 80s. only the last one is CGI. ONly the first picture is from the first movie. The second two are from the upcoming movie, and are therefore...wait for it...CGI. lol
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jun 9, 2015 15:33:47 GMT -5
The first picture has noticeable doll eyes, but the second picture is pretty much life-like. I wonder if you had showed just that one picture, who of us could tell it was real or not. lol... the first three pictures are of the actual Arnold from the 80s. only the last one is CGI. No, only the top picure is real
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jun 9, 2015 15:38:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 15:46:19 GMT -5
It's going to be weird when they use CGI to have actors star in movies after they're dead.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jun 9, 2015 15:48:13 GMT -5
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Post by SkullTrauma on Jun 9, 2015 15:58:11 GMT -5
totally didn't see the "Terminator Salvation" part, just 3 real looking pictures and then "for comparison" and a shitty cgi picture.
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