When did Big Show and Kane (Local Men) really go downhill?

[RIHT]

These guys are pretty horrendous these days, sans the rare interesting moment. Where did it go wrong? Kane used to be so popular, regardless of turns, feuds, etc., at least as far as I know. I'd say since the corporate turn, which is kind of an easy point to name. But what about Big Show? Was he ever that special? I mean, he's been out of place a bunch of times in his career (beating Lesnar for the title in 2002 thanks to Heyman.... only for Angle to beat him for the title thanks to Heyman, but still stay with him), but where did he really take the nosedive? I'd probably say after Jerishow ended as a team, even though ShowMiz was okay. His face run squashing CM Punk in 2010 was awful, then against ADR in 2011, the dumb heel turn losing to Cena in 2012, taking Bryan's spot in 2013, and the rest is history.

I might have answered my own question, but what do you think? When did Show and Kane go down? Post below.

[Dub H]

Big Show has been a long time,Kane started being local man with the authority and a little of his return against Mysterio,guess Kane managed to save himself for a while thanks to team Hell No

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Kane was obviously Corporate Kane.

Big Show, although he had that Punk feud and all that other stuff, in my eyes it made sense as he was still sort of fresh and I could see what they were doing with his character. I personally didn't become uninterested in him until the Big Johnny/Cena feud. He was fired, made up the "ironclad contract" thing, he was just a big heel again and there he truly became a joke. I couldn't take him seriously anymore in any angle at that point. There was just no need for it in my eyes. That's when he became the first Local Man.

Hell, I can't even watch the video to this day because he still looks like a broken man.

[froggyfrog]

Like 2005

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Kane became trash after going corporate and allowing himself to be booked in 5+ segments a night. Big Show became trash when he started doing the Yes Chant to sap off Bryan's heat.

[Jiren]

Corporate Kane is good in concept but him being a big player in ME feuds is killing him for me.

I think he'd be great as a GM (Neutral, No more heel boss crap)

Big Show has always been a "Just there" guy for but when he usurped Bryan in the Authority feud for the latter part of 2013 it became "oh just f*** off"

[The Legend of Groose]

I think many will disagree with me but for Kane it was Team Hell No. I could never see him as a monster ever again after that.

As for Big Show...

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

To me, Big Show really went on the Local path when his Iron Clad contract somehow became not Iron Clad and he got fired.

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I'd say Kane's mostly been awful since about 2002 with just some brief flirtations with consistent quality.

Big Show, I can't think of any stretch of time where I've consistently liked him since he came back in 2007.

Either way, both of them have been so much worse being suddenly insanely overly featured and protected over the past two years or so after years of doing f***-all.

[abjordans]

Big Show around the turn of the century, Kane when he handed Steph his mask.

[Sicho100]

Well, in 2006, they had a six-minute Raw match against each other, in which they decided to have a chain wrestling match. It's the most beautiful pro wrestling match I've ever seen. Once they reached that peak, there was nowhere for either of them to go but down.

[Rican]

Kane when he joined The Authority. Big Show...well damn I can't think of a time I didn't roll my eyes upon sight of him or hearing his music. Maybe when he was ECW champion was the last time I could stand him.

[keezy]

Big Show beating the Straight Edge Society in a handicap match was his moment for me.

Kane has only really been bad since the corporate angle, he was great in Team Hell No.

[Bang Bang Bart]

I remember that everyone was interested in Corporate Kane when he first surfaced. Then, that went all to hell, thanks to WWE's asinine booking of the whole thing.

[Super Nintenjoe KBD]

I remember liking the idea of a corporate Kane but envisioned him as more of a non-wrestling lackey than a bloody focus of the whole show.

With Big Show the last time I looked forward to seeing his matches and segments was when he was doing the impersonator gimmick in 2000 and would get pissed off at some stage and leave after the match to his WWF Aggression hip-hop theme which was bad ass, Show has never been anywhere near as good for me. His is one of the biggest buzz kills as a return, surprise tag partner, surprise opponent or a surprise Rumble entry.

*no 30 hits*..."WELLLLL"...."Oh my!!!"...*sigh*

[Fake Jesus]

Kane: 2013.

Show: February 8th 1972.

[sunnytaker]

corporate kane for kane for me. big show hasn't really interested me since ECW with brief moments afterwards.

I think it's really gone into overdrive the past year or so though when wwe realized other than rollins and to a lesser degree rusev (who was busy with the midcard and cena for the most part) they didn't have any established top heels for the top faces to go against so they kept trotting out kane and show. there was orton but rollins was still face with the shield and after the heel turn everyone knew it was just a matter of time before orton turned face on rollins.

now they can use Sheamus at least to get someone different involved but rusev getting hurt has kept team local in the spotlight more than necessary.

[The Beast Disincarnate]

To me Korporate Kane appearing 4 times on every Raw and ruining every single main event was the last nail on the coffin.

The whole "Iron Clad contract no so iron clad, Steph's man servant, Bryan's heat syphoning, crying Big Show" debacle was a total mess but I'm tired of Show since he paired with Vicky to destroy Taker. It was probably half a dozen years ago.

I only like him when he pulls an actor's studioesque performance and cries like a giant baby.

[Instant Classic]

Last time I remember Big Show not as a local man was when he faced Sheamus.

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

Kane seemed like he was winding down into a workable stooge role with Korporate Kane at first. No, the point where he hit insufferable was when he became Daniel Bryan's initial title feud. That's when he officially became "default heel big guy" despite being incredibly past his prime and Cesaro being RIGHT THERE to take that role if they wanted someone for it.

And Show hit a breaking point with the "replacing Daniel Bryan" thing.