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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Jul 1, 2015 22:05:44 GMT -5
Luther Reigns is about to get his shit kicked in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 22:08:39 GMT -5
CHINESE NEW YEAR!
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jul 1, 2015 22:24:28 GMT -5
Got Damn. I actually read 90% of that, and good lord, WWE's lawyer is gonna be putting boots to asses. Jesus. Also, if this works can we please have the f***ing curb stomp back? Seth really, really needs it. Seth can have it back just as soon as McDevitt's done using it.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 1, 2015 22:27:56 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe they shouldn't have sent Blackjack Mulligan one of those letters considering his grandsons work in the company (as does his son-in-law). I am assuming Blackjack was contacted by them because he is friends with Billy Jack Haynes and I guess they thought he might join up with Haynes on this. No, if you read the AP story, he served notice to WWE (through this lawyer) that he would be filing a suit and all communication with him must be through that lawyer. He blames WWE for all his issues, as well as Barry's.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 1, 2015 22:37:00 GMT -5
While I have absolutely no problem with WWE squashing the cash-grab lawsuits, I still don't like the idea of WWE not being responsible for concussions that former talent suffered while working there. I mean, they only started the IMPACT testing in, what, 2007? That's a crazy long time of head shots with chairs, dangerous moves, and reckless talent. I'm not saying WWE should just hand out money to everyone claiming they were hurt, but there should be some mutual accountability here.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 1, 2015 22:37:10 GMT -5
This is like when those Monster heels focus their rage on other heels, and all of the sudden they become De facto Face. Jerry McDevitt is Brock Lesnar. *McDevitt walks into courtroom, does Lesnar hopping*
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Post by Clawley Race on Jul 1, 2015 22:40:54 GMT -5
This is gonna be a legal ass kicking the likes of which you've never seen before. Jerry is goin' after heads. fixed
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 1, 2015 22:41:42 GMT -5
I mean, did WWE attempt to manipulate research into concussions the way the NFL did? I think that's one of the key reasons wy the NFL got hit so bad, but if they squashed research and WWE really wasn't aware, I could see a big difference in liabilities.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 1, 2015 22:48:25 GMT -5
I can't see an issue with a serious investigation into the the physical and mental abuse these guys have and continue to put themselves through with this business, so it's a shame an opportunist lawyer is preying on grieving, destitute and desparate people and generally making a f***pig of the issue and slowing down what could become progress with actual results
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 1, 2015 23:00:28 GMT -5
I mean, did WWE attempt to manipulate research into concussions the way the NFL did? I think that's one of the key reasons wy the NFL got hit so bad, but if they squashed research and WWE really wasn't aware, I could see a big difference in liabilities. True but even still, ignorance shouldn't absolve a company from responsibility. To a certain degree, I'd argue that NFL would've had a more legit claim of ignorance if they didn't actively try to hide the research. When you look at just the pure form of what WWE and professional wrestling are, you're kinda meant to get hurt. It's a lot safer now than it used to be, but it'd still be pretty tough to defend if it ever came down to it.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 1, 2015 23:04:26 GMT -5
I mean, did WWE attempt to manipulate research into concussions the way the NFL did? I think that's one of the key reasons wy the NFL got hit so bad, but if they squashed research and WWE really wasn't aware, I could see a big difference in liabilities. True but even still, ignorance shouldn't absolve a company from responsibility. To a certain degree, I'd argue that NFL would've had a more legit claim of ignorance if they didn't actively try to hide the research. When you look at just the pure form of what WWE and professional wrestling are, you're kinda meant to get hurt. It's a lot safer now than it used to be, but it'd still be pretty tough to defend if it ever came down to it. The problem with a lot of lawsuits like this is that it's not enough to prove damage, you have to prove that a significant chunk of the damage was done on the company's time (as opposed to any other point in the career) and that the company acted in a way where they knew that damage could occur and/or were reckless in it. If there's no research they have available to point to concussions being dangerous, it could be hard to prove the second point. Then again, they're likely just fishing for a settlement in the first place.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Jul 1, 2015 23:04:49 GMT -5
Wow, both the lawyers names actually sound like wrestler names. God's got a real sense of humor. I mean come on, Jerry McDevitt vs. Konstantine Kyros?! It writes itself, people!
IT WRITES ITSELF, BROTHER!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 23:04:59 GMT -5
While I have absolutely no problem with WWE squashing the cash-grab lawsuits, I still don't like the idea of WWE not being responsible for concussions that former talent suffered while working there. I mean, they only started the IMPACT testing in, what, 2007? That's a crazy long time of head shots with chairs, dangerous moves, and reckless talent. I'm not saying WWE should just hand out money to everyone claiming they were hurt, but there should be some mutual accountability here. It is pretty weird if you just watch some random PPVs on the network where people take unprotected chair shots as a matter of course. Really nasty ones too. Some stuff in the 2000-2005 era on PPVs was just comical full on blasts to the head with no hands up or anything. It's really rough to look at now. Hell watch the ECW ONS 2005 ppv and you'll see enough unprotected chair shots to cover enough brain damage for the entire current roster.
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Post by Tarik Dee on Jul 1, 2015 23:07:27 GMT -5
The New Face Of Fear
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 1, 2015 23:09:12 GMT -5
Someone photoshop Jerry McDevitt with Meng and Barbarian.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 1, 2015 23:10:44 GMT -5
True but even still, ignorance shouldn't absolve a company from responsibility. To a certain degree, I'd argue that NFL would've had a more legit claim of ignorance if they didn't actively try to hide the research. When you look at just the pure form of what WWE and professional wrestling are, you're kinda meant to get hurt. It's a lot safer now than it used to be, but it'd still be pretty tough to defend if it ever came down to it. The problem with a lot of lawsuits like this is that it's not enough to prove damage, you have to prove that a significant chunk of the damage was done on the company's time (as opposed to any other point in the career) and that the company acted in a way where they knew that damage could occur and/or were reckless in it. If there's no research they have available to point to concussions being dangerous, it could be hard to prove the second point. Then again, they're likely just fishing for a settlement in the first place. Fair enough, I suppose and I'll admit that it's been so long since these guys were active in WWE that it's tough to view it as anything other than fishing for a settlement. I just find it rather suspect that even before the research we have now, nobody in WWE thought it a bit dangerous to constantly have chair shots to the head. While I have absolutely no problem with WWE squashing the cash-grab lawsuits, I still don't like the idea of WWE not being responsible for concussions that former talent suffered while working there. I mean, they only started the IMPACT testing in, what, 2007? That's a crazy long time of head shots with chairs, dangerous moves, and reckless talent. I'm not saying WWE should just hand out money to everyone claiming they were hurt, but there should be some mutual accountability here. It is pretty weird if you just watch some random PPVs on the network where people take unprotected chair shots as a matter of course. Really nasty ones too. Some stuff in the 2000-2005 era on PPVs was just comical full on blasts to the head with no hands up or anything. It's really rough to look at now. Yeah, I really can't watch that stuff. Even things like Daniel Bryan's flying headbutt or anytime someone does a dive to the outside, it bothers me.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 1, 2015 23:14:15 GMT -5
The problem with a lot of lawsuits like this is that it's not enough to prove damage, you have to prove that a significant chunk of the damage was done on the company's time (as opposed to any other point in the career) and that the company acted in a way where they knew that damage could occur and/or were reckless in it. If there's no research they have available to point to concussions being dangerous, it could be hard to prove the second point. Then again, they're likely just fishing for a settlement in the first place. Fair enough, I suppose and I'll admit that it's been so long since these guys were active in WWE that it's tough to view it as anything other than fishing for a settlement. I just find it rather suspect that even before the research we have now, nobody in WWE thought it a bit dangerous to constantly have chair shots to the head. It's not so much that people didn't think it was dangerous (I mean, theres a reason helmets exist), it's that we didn't understand the long term, dangerous effects from repeated trauma. I think a lot of people viewed a concussion as any other bruise, something that could heal and go back to 100% instead of what it is, a traumatic brain injury.
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Post by jakes on Jul 1, 2015 23:21:28 GMT -5
Somebody posted Billy Jack Haynes Facebook posts about this a few months back. I know he mentioned some of these names getting in this suit getting involved, along with Sabu.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 1, 2015 23:24:12 GMT -5
Fair enough, I suppose and I'll admit that it's been so long since these guys were active in WWE that it's tough to view it as anything other than fishing for a settlement. I just find it rather suspect that even before the research we have now, nobody in WWE thought it a bit dangerous to constantly have chair shots to the head. It's not so much that people didn't think it was dangerous (I mean, theres a reason helmets exist), it's that we didn't understand the long term, dangerous effects from repeated trauma. I think a lot of people viewed a concussion as any other bruise, something that could heal and go back to 100% instead of what it is, a traumatic brain injury. Yeah, true. Honestly, it's pretty damn concerning how many people had to get hurt before we realized how bad things could get with concussions. Somebody posted Billy Jack Haynes Facebook posts about this a few months back. I know he mentioned some of these names getting in this suit getting involved, along with Sabu. Call me crazy, but I don't see Sabu's chances of a settlement going all that well lol.
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Post by Ashy Larry on Jul 1, 2015 23:36:20 GMT -5
Now why couldn't they get McDevitt on the World Wildlife Fund case?
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