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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jul 2, 2015 5:46:03 GMT -5
Michael Cole sucks the coolness out of everything Will WWE ruin Finn Balor ? Shouldn't these two threads be merged? "Will Michael Cole sucking Finn Balor ruin the " wait no hold on that's not right...
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Jul 2, 2015 5:55:39 GMT -5
He's like a big human particulate filter. When he comments a scene, all the particles of coolness are retained inside him, and he only exhaust pure, bland, unfunny and boring WWE certified air.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 2, 2015 6:02:38 GMT -5
The main problem is nothing he says ever feels natural or 'real'. JR, even at his corniest, you bought that he felt what he was saying. Cole pretty much always is very apparent that he's reciting stuff.
I'll grant you that the material he has to work with is shit as well.
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Post by spagett on Jul 2, 2015 7:06:16 GMT -5
The main problem is nothing he says ever feels natural or 'real'. JR, even at his corniest, you bought that he felt what he was saying. Cole pretty much always is very apparent that he's reciting stuff. I'll grant you that the material he has to work with is shit as well. That's more accurate yeah. I don't think it's a problem that Cole isn't cool, JR wasn't cool really. He was passionate and made you care about what was going on and that's something Cole just doesn't do. He's the most fake sounding phony you could ever imagine. He's got all the warmth and sincerity of a sleazy used car salesman. He's the exact copy of Vince on Commentary, who also sucked by the way. The only time Vince was ever entertaining on commentary was when you had Ventura ripping into him. It's no wonder Cole has survived as long as he has, he's like Vince was and I'm sure vince considers himself the greatest commentator of all time.
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Post by Wolfman Rose on Jul 2, 2015 7:20:35 GMT -5
The main problem is nothing he says ever feels natural or 'real'. JR, even at his corniest, you bought that he felt what he was saying. Cole pretty much always is very apparent that he's reciting stuff. I'll grant you that the material he has to work with is shit as well. Bullshit. See his calls of Bryan, Eddie, and Mankind's title wins.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 2, 2015 7:27:04 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Jul 2, 2015 8:43:35 GMT -5
I'll say this until the day I stop being a fan;
Michael Cole on Smackdown with Tazz from 2002 to about 2005-6 was Prime Michael Cole. He suited the style the show went for at the time, called the action really well and he and Tazz had an amazing chemistry together.
He made Smackdown as much as the Smackdown 6 did.
Right now, though? Yeah, he's godawful.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 2, 2015 9:25:39 GMT -5
The main problem is nothing he says ever feels natural or 'real'. JR, even at his corniest, you bought that he felt what he was saying. Cole pretty much always is very apparent that he's reciting stuff. I'll grant you that the material he has to work with is shit as well. Bullshit. See his calls of Bryan, Eddie, and Mankind's title wins. Three calls in 16 years isn't much of an argument. His week to week commentary is incredibly insincere.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 2, 2015 9:29:10 GMT -5
I read Steph's laugh in Fran Drescher voice.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 2, 2015 9:40:41 GMT -5
In the other Cole thread I noted that in Foley's book he said the only thing wrong with his title win was that Cole was calling it instead of JR. But yeah, at least at that point he was unobtrusive enough to not weigh down the entire show from his sucking. He's an okay B team announcer. When he got promoted to Raw full time that's when the knives came out.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jul 2, 2015 9:48:22 GMT -5
There was a very brief window where Cole was entertaining. It was during NXT 3 the diva one. That show was so abysmal and he shit on it exactly the right amount to make you laugh, while also shutting up enough so you could watch to make sure you agreed with him Also the greatest NXT call: THEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUSTHEOCTOPUS TAPOUTTAPOUTTAPOUTTAPOUTTAPOUT GO TO SLEEP DO WHAT YOU DO! AJ WINS! Then they moved that Cole character over to RAW and he started talking over everyone and it became shitty immediately. The major difference is also, that NXT is only 1 hour. Rather than 3 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 9:53:31 GMT -5
Not near as bad as when he exposed himself to a school bus filled with middle school children. ...That PROBABLY didn't happen. But you never know. I now want a 'Things Michael Cole hasn't done' thread so we can't be libelled. Michael Cole probably never shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Michael Cole probably doesn't eat puppies while watching children cry.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jul 2, 2015 11:18:21 GMT -5
The main problem is nothing he says ever feels natural or 'real'. JR, even at his corniest, you bought that he felt what he was saying. Cole pretty much always is very apparent that he's reciting stuff. I'll grant you that the material he has to work with is shit as well. That's more accurate yeah. I don't think it's a problem that Cole isn't cool, JR wasn't cool really. He was passionate and made you care about what was going on and that's something Cole just doesn't do. He's the most fake sounding phony you could ever imagine. He's got all the warmth and sincerity of a sleazy used car salesman. He's the exact copy of Vince on Commentary, who also sucked by the way. The only time Vince was ever entertaining on commentary was when you had Ventura ripping into him. It's no wonder Cole has survived as long as he has, he's like Vince was and I'm sure vince considers himself the greatest commentator of all time. Vince gets a lot of shit for his commentary ("What a manouvre.. one two three he got him!! No he didn't..." etc) but he was 10 times the commentator Cole is. Maybe because he didn't have anything outside of the match to talk about like twitter or whatever but he used to actually call moves and sounded like he cared.
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Post by 67 more on Jul 2, 2015 12:03:54 GMT -5
That's more accurate yeah. I don't think it's a problem that Cole isn't cool, JR wasn't cool really. He was passionate and made you care about what was going on and that's something Cole just doesn't do. He's the most fake sounding phony you could ever imagine. He's got all the warmth and sincerity of a sleazy used car salesman. He's the exact copy of Vince on Commentary, who also sucked by the way. The only time Vince was ever entertaining on commentary was when you had Ventura ripping into him. It's no wonder Cole has survived as long as he has, he's like Vince was and I'm sure vince considers himself the greatest commentator of all time. Vince gets a lot of shit for his commentary ("What a manouvre.. one two three he got him!! No he didn't..." etc) but he was 10 times the commentator Cole is. Maybe because he didn't have anything outside of the match to talk about like twitter or whatever but he used to actually call moves and sounded like he cared. The fact that you said that Vince called moves makes me laugh so much. He would call everything WHAT A MANEUVER!
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Post by markymark on Jul 2, 2015 12:09:06 GMT -5
The main problem is nothing he says ever feels natural or 'real'. JR, even at his corniest, you bought that he felt what he was saying. Cole pretty much always is very apparent that he's reciting stuff. I'll grant you that the material he has to work with is shit as well. Bullshit. See his calls of Bryan, Eddie, and Mankind's title wins. Yep, Cole also helped WWF kill WCW then, I would add also when Vince beat HHH for the title, which was another memorable moment.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jul 2, 2015 12:17:34 GMT -5
Vince gets a lot of shit for his commentary ("What a manouvre.. one two three he got him!! No he didn't..." etc) but he was 10 times the commentator Cole is. Maybe because he didn't have anything outside of the match to talk about like twitter or whatever but he used to actually call moves and sounded like he cared. The fact that you said that Vince called moves makes me laugh so much. He would call everything WHAT A MANEUVER! Haha I mean it! I watched Bret vs Owen from WM10 the other day and I was totally shocked by Vince. In between the "look at that manouvre!" there was some definitely some move names. I guess just wasn't used to commentators talking 100% about what was happening in the ring.
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Post by ededdneddy on Jul 2, 2015 13:04:35 GMT -5
Michael Cole sucks.....that is all
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Post by Rave on Jul 2, 2015 13:10:16 GMT -5
I remember the Milwaukee incident when everyone started chanting at Truth. Cole joined in and after a few seconds, everyone shut right up when they noticed he was jumping on the bandwagon.
Cole's as much a Local Man as Kane and Big Show.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 2, 2015 13:15:14 GMT -5
He's shit. Absolutely awful. It also doesn't help when he has his script clearly laid out in front of him, and visibly looks at it even when he's talking to the camera. He doesn't even know how to make his links sound natural. It's overly mechanical and structured. His only defence when criticised tends to be "hey, I've been doing this for years", which makes it worse, because he hasn't improved and seemingly makes no effort to try. Yes, he's been doing it for years. That's not unconnected to the decline in WWE's programming quality.
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Post by metylerca on Jul 2, 2015 13:46:01 GMT -5
He's shit. Absolutely awful. It also doesn't help when he has his script clearly laid out in front of him, and visibly looks at it even when he's talking to the camera. He doesn't even know how to make his links sound natural. It's overly mechanical and structured. His only defence when criticised tends to be "hey, I've been doing this for years", which makes it worse, because he hasn't improved and seemingly makes no effort to try. Yes, he's been doing it for years. That's not unconnected to the decline in WWE's programming quality. "Hey, listen f***head!" -Michael Cole His best times were with Tazz. They had a youthful and cool energy together on Smackdown in 03 that contrasted Jr and Kang on RAW at the time. But ever since he became head announcer, he's lost whatever edge he might have had.
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