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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 23:53:49 GMT -5
Years ago he was THE indy wrestler, getting all kinds of positive buzz, the next guy in the Dynamite-Benoit-Danielson evolution. One of the 2-3 times I've bought on ROH PPV was to watch him face Tyler Black for the title.
Watching him on TNA now, and reading on here how people dog on him, who could ever guess that was the case?
It's like he caused the entire serious/stiff/no-sell indy style to jump the shark, and made people realize they want personalities again. And now, he's a WolfMan who paints wolf scratches on himself and looks like an idiot almost all the time.
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Post by jagilki on Jul 1, 2015 23:56:12 GMT -5
To me he went downhill around the time it of the "oh well if I'm not ROH Champ, I'll retire".
And then the time he and some others beat up a kid being trained(?).... can't remember exact details on that one, but yeah.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 1, 2015 23:56:30 GMT -5
Years ago he was THE indy wrestler, getting all kinds of positive buzz, the next guy in the Dynamite-Benoit-Danielson evolution. One of the 2-3 times I've bought on ROH PPV was to watch him face Tyler Black for the title. Watching him on TNA now, and reading on here how people dog on him, who could ever guess that was the case? It's like he caused the entire serious/stiff/no-sell indy style to jump the shark, and made people realize they want personalities again. And now, he's a WolfMan who paints wolf scratches on himself and looks like an idiot almost all the time. I think once you cheat enough promoters and fans then your aura begins to die.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 1, 2015 23:59:14 GMT -5
I like making "LOL No Sell jokes" about Davey sometimes, but I get sad because I think that this guy could be "The Guy" in any promotion, and yet he isn't because he's a massive douche nozzle.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 2, 2015 0:00:23 GMT -5
I like making "LOL No Sell jokes" about Davey sometimes, but I get sad because I think that this guy could be "The Guy" in any promotion, and yet he isn't because he's a massive douche nozzle. Not trying to disrespect your opinion, but in what world does Davey have the mic skills or charisma to be "The Guy"?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 2, 2015 0:02:08 GMT -5
Well, when you are the biggest non-law breaking (and that is even debatable given Davey's actions) douche in the last 10 years, it comes with the territory. Plus he just seems to drag everything down which doesn't help.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 0:05:19 GMT -5
I like making "LOL No Sell jokes" about Davey sometimes, but I get sad because I think that this guy could be "The Guy" in any promotion, and yet he isn't because he's a massive douche nozzle. Not trying to disrespect your opinion, but in what world does Davey have the mic skills or charisma to be "The Guy"? That's the thing, I see him on Impact right now and he really comes off like a dork who can do some pretty cool stuff, there's no star quality there. Was it ever there? Did he lose it?
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 2, 2015 0:07:36 GMT -5
I disagree that Davey's stock has plummeted. I believe he was ROH champ in a time where ROH really didn't have anyone who was at that level. There was a reason he was only champ until Kevin Steen was ready to be champ.
So him being a tag team wrestle with him and Eddie Edwards (another world champ who was only champ so he could lose it to someone else and set up former partners facing each other) was probably the best you could really hope for the two if they are going to succeed anywhere that really has a TV following.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Jul 2, 2015 0:14:02 GMT -5
I thought Davey sucked back when he was ROH Champ.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 2, 2015 0:16:27 GMT -5
I thought Davey sucked back when he was ROH Champ. I've never understood the appeal. He's Dynamite Kid, without all the things that made Dynamite Kid great, like the physical charisma, the grasp on ring pychology, etc...
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 2, 2015 0:26:35 GMT -5
I thought Davey sucked back when he was ROH Champ. I've never understood the appeal. He's Dynamite Kid, without all the things that made Dynamite Kid great, like the physical charisma, the grasp on ring pychology, etc... I thought the Team Richards MMA Wannabe gimmick was kinda fun.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 2, 2015 0:27:18 GMT -5
I've never understood the appeal. He's Dynamite Kid, without all the things that made Dynamite Kid great, like the physical charisma, the grasp on ring pychology, etc... I thought the Team Richards MMA Wannabe gimmick was kinda fun. Thing about that is....I'm like 90% sure that wasn't a gimmick. I think he's just a wannabe MMA douchebag.
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Jul 2, 2015 0:39:41 GMT -5
I thought the Team Richards MMA Wannabe gimmick was kinda fun. Thing about that is....I'm like 90% sure that wasn't a gimmick. I think he's just a wannabe MMA douchebag. *Delivered Awkwardly* "American Strong Style!"
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Post by Clawley Race on Jul 2, 2015 2:14:27 GMT -5
Without him, there'd be no reDRagon...and everyone loves them...
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 2, 2015 3:12:01 GMT -5
Without him, there'd be no reDRagon...and everyone loves them... There'd be no Kyle O'Reilly period. He was Davey's before he was Fish's. /shipping
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jul 2, 2015 3:23:34 GMT -5
It's weird, because I agree with everything you said, but I still really enjoy his matches. There's been few shows that he's been on where I didn't think he had the best match on the show.
Slammiversary and Impact being the two recent examples. The guy is amazingly talented at both singles, tag, normal, gimmick matches, anything you want him to do, yet I still feel his stock has fallen greatly since joining TNA. Gee, I wonder what the issue is there.
Just like how WCW had quality talents on the undercard stealing the show around the time of their death, this is the same case here with guys like the Wolves.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 2, 2015 4:07:20 GMT -5
He's the most vanilla of midgets. He can't talk, he has no physical charisma and he can't even draw you into matches because he doesn't understand that kicking someone really hard isn't psychology.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jul 2, 2015 4:08:19 GMT -5
Never been a Davey fan, minus when he was the bag boy of Strong and Romero in ROH. He was never going to get higher up in wrestling than he got. IMO, he just copies the cool moves he sees from Japan and his psychology is lacking badly.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 2, 2015 4:17:37 GMT -5
Never been a Davey fan, minus when he was the bag boy of Strong and Romero in ROH. He was never going to get higher up in wrestling than he got. IMO, he just copies the cool moves he sees from Japan and his psychology is lacking badly. Funnily enough there's a wrestler in Total Extreme Wrestling 2013 that is Davey down to a hilt, down to that very same criticism.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 2, 2015 4:19:11 GMT -5
I cut him slack because like me he has deep deep social anxiety problems, and in my opinion is why he comes out like a douche, I have the same problem we just don't know how to act around people.
I hope that now that he's engaged that she makes him finally happy.
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