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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Jul 4, 2015 19:12:38 GMT -5
He was absolutely lacking what he needed to become a main eventer. A well-defined character that has direction. Unfortunately that was largely out of his hands and in the hands of the booking team. Rollins came up with the Shield who ran over most of the established stars on the roster. Ambrose did the heavy lifting on the mic while Rollins was given enough mic time to improve but mask some of his flaws. He was then the one that turned heel and had whole storylines and shows built around his new character that the booking team protects at all costs. Morrison had a decent Jim Morrison knockoff character that he was sort of perfect for. Teaming with The Miz and developing a bit beyond that while still keeping some of the pseudo-mysticism and haziness of the character like reference to the Palace of Wisdom was working. The fans enjoyed it and he was dynamite in the ring. His promos on the webshow and on commentary he was enjoyable with this gimmick. Then Miz turned on him. He stayed heel a week an then magically was a face with no real turn. He then became a dude that does parkour and tells WWE PG overly scripted jokes about heels with no development whatsoever for over a year. It's hard for me to fairly compare them based on how different the hands they were dealt The dumb thing was if there was a heel character that could turn face without changing anything, it was Morrison's character that worked with the Miz. The character was kinda silly and said goofy shit. That's pretty much what WWE makes their faces try to be already. Exactly, and it came so naturally to him. He would go on long Jim Morrisonesque monologues while Miz would just stare at him not knowing what the hell he was talking about one minute and then hit one liners like "We don't allow fatties in the palace of wisdom" the next. Him trolling Adamle live on commentary by asking him how many chimichangas he could eat had me rolling as did his completely deadpan impression of Jimmy Wang Yang. He was someone who actually found their niche and was stripped of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 19:36:01 GMT -5
I'm happy with Morrison keeping his stupid flippy bullshit in Lucha Underground, thank you. I've never seen you say anything positive about anyone. Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh?
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jul 4, 2015 19:57:59 GMT -5
I've never seen you say anything positive about anyone. Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? Yes, who needs scrubs like Kevin Owens, Ambrose and Rollins when the untouchable Attitude Era had PPV matches with Road Dogg and the Godfather.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 4, 2015 20:06:47 GMT -5
I've never seen you say anything positive about anyone. Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 20:17:28 GMT -5
I think Rollins is much better. But I don't see what's wrong with Morrison promoting himself. It's a wrestler's job to get themself over, isn't it?
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jul 4, 2015 21:59:43 GMT -5
Danny Basham:"Prime Time Players, Doug and I are coming for those Tag Team titles!" Rob Conway: "Just look at me." Ricky Ortiz: "Holy shit, someone remembers I exist?"
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 4, 2015 22:03:28 GMT -5
I'm happy with Morrison keeping his stupid flippy bullshit in Lucha Underground, thank you. That's really simplifying what JoMo is capable of as a performer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 0:38:01 GMT -5
I've never seen you say anything positive about anyone. Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think the match quality for wrestling in general has improved as of late. NJPW, WWE, ROH, and Lucha Underground, while not without a few faults, usually put on better matches than what I was getting in the Attitude Era or The Rock n' Wrestling era.
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Post by amethyst on Jul 5, 2015 1:49:54 GMT -5
I think Rollins is much better. But I don't see what's wrong with Morrison promoting himself. It's a wrestler's job to get themself over, isn't it? Theres getting yourself over and then theres flat out delusional, next we'll have the Blue Meanie talking about how Kevin Owens can't lace his boots.
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Post by Sam Punk on Jul 6, 2015 18:33:58 GMT -5
...in bed.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jul 6, 2015 18:54:23 GMT -5
I think Rollins is much better. But I don't see what's wrong with Morrison promoting himself. It's a wrestler's job to get themself over, isn't it? Theres getting yourself over and then theres flat out delusional, next we'll have the Blue Meanie talking about how Kevin Owens can't lace his boots. Its pro wrestling, I could beat Brock Lesnar right now.
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Post by The Robisher on Jul 6, 2015 19:20:26 GMT -5
Didn't Morrison already do enough destroying...like his career?
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Post by Abdullah on Jul 7, 2015 14:02:51 GMT -5
Maybe Morrison is upset that Joey Mercury is getting more fame and notoriety as Rollins' sidekick than MNM ever got. He's spoken at length, and in a very genuine tone, about how happy he is for Joey's success.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Jul 7, 2015 14:04:36 GMT -5
Lucha Underground is really great, you guys.
That is all.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 7, 2015 14:10:45 GMT -5
I've never seen you say anything positive about anyone. Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? Yeah it does. I check every morning to see if ol' Sparky has given someone his seal of approval yet, and dammit wrestling is going to suck until he does.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2015 14:14:31 GMT -5
Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? Yeah it does. I check every morning to see if ol' Sparky has given someone his seal of approval yet, and dammit wrestling is going to suck until he does. There's being negative and being "Even Scott Keith thinks you're too cynical" negative. This the latter.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 7, 2015 14:23:32 GMT -5
I've never seen you say anything positive about anyone. Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? Now that I've gotten my sarcastic post out of the way let's try it straight: Why the hell are you even here? I'm starting to think it's just to troll. You've never shown any sign of being here other than to shit on what other people enjoy and throw fits. Going through just the last page of your most recent posts every one of them is just to say X wrestler sucks. Nothing positive. No discussions. No points or counter points. You just go in threads to shit on wrestlers to get a reaction. I'm at the point where I need an excuse for you to be here.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jul 7, 2015 14:30:50 GMT -5
I'd love to see J-Mo come back and feud with Rollins. Always enjoyed watching him and he could probably have some good matches with a bunch of guy son the roster now (Rollins, Ambrose, Neville, Cesaro, Zayn, Breeze) Didn't want to make another post so: I'm at the point where I need an excuse for you to be here. To be fair, his avatar is pretty great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 15:59:54 GMT -5
Goes to show ya just how far wrestling has fallen nowadays, huh? Now that I've gotten my sarcastic post out of the way let's try it straight: Why the hell are you even here? I'm starting to think it's just to troll. You've never shown any sign of being here other than to shit on what other people enjoy and throw fits. Going through just the last page of your most recent posts every one of them is just to say X wrestler sucks. Nothing positive. No discussions. No points or counter points. You just go in threads to shit on wrestlers to get a reaction. I'm at the point where I need an excuse for you to be here. I don't really understand what constitutes trolling. I'm not shitting on anyone here, I don't outright flame anyone, and really, I just say what's genuinely on my mind. I could probably express my opinions in better ways, but it's hard to change how you've been for the longest time. Really, I apologize if anyone is offended by what I say. That's just how I am.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Jul 7, 2015 16:08:00 GMT -5
I'm happy with Morrison keeping his stupid flippy bullshit in Lucha Underground, thank you. Guys, it's Russo. It was always Russo.
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