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Post by joeiscool on Jul 5, 2015 15:30:02 GMT -5
not really that bad. The sales tax there is 9.25% In terms of WWE that's less than 1 dollar extra...
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 5, 2015 16:01:09 GMT -5
This is a false narrative. The quantity of quality TV series to choose from has never been higher. So has the quantity of shit (in fact, that has arguably increased even more), and the quality stuff comes from the few people actually willing to take risks in order to find and support good works, and as a result seems to always come from the same people. How does a tax levied and collected by a city in Illinois benefit an industry based in California? When I say "Hollywood", I mean huge film/TV industries that insist on relying on obsolete business practices in general. My point is that streaming services offer a large amount of quality shows and films at a reasonable price and are therefore unsurprisingly winning over a lot of people while bigger industries such as Hollywood continue to pump up mediocre, safe works designed by focus groups rather than artists and make the audience pay exorbitant prices for it (not to mention the inflated ones of 3D screenings of movies). The obvious solution would be for these industries to change their business model to adapt to modern audiences. But that would imply taking risks and no longer thinking solely in terms of what is marketable, so it's much easier to lobby in order to have alternatives outlawed or at least penalized with bullshit like this or the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement. It's how it has always happened. New methods of distributing and promoting entertainment in a way that advantages the public by offering higher quality products and/or lower prices come up and instead of adapting, old industries try to shut it down so that they remain the only option available, because that's easier than improving. That's not how taxes work.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 5, 2015 17:08:27 GMT -5
Chicago's property tax is lower than most comparable cities I think, and it is political suicide for any elected official to raise those, so instead they nickle and dime the residents (see also: me) on everything else.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 5, 2015 18:13:49 GMT -5
What a miserable city. This is why the Ducks should have won the cup. Anaheim loves amusement. They got wrecked at home in Game 7 by a better team. Sorry.
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Post by ededdneddy on Jul 5, 2015 18:23:52 GMT -5
CM Punk is not amused. No wonder he moved
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jul 6, 2015 3:07:38 GMT -5
So has the quantity of shit (in fact, that has arguably increased even more), and the quality stuff comes from the few people actually willing to take risks in order to find and support good works, and as a result seems to always come from the same people. When I say "Hollywood", I mean huge film/TV industries that insist on relying on obsolete business practices in general. My point is that streaming services offer a large amount of quality shows and films at a reasonable price and are therefore unsurprisingly winning over a lot of people while bigger industries such as Hollywood continue to pump up mediocre, safe works designed by focus groups rather than artists and make the audience pay exorbitant prices for it (not to mention the inflated ones of 3D screenings of movies). The obvious solution would be for these industries to change their business model to adapt to modern audiences. But that would imply taking risks and no longer thinking solely in terms of what is marketable, so it's much easier to lobby in order to have alternatives outlawed or at least penalized with bullshit like this or the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement. It's how it has always happened. New methods of distributing and promoting entertainment in a way that advantages the public by offering higher quality products and/or lower prices come up and instead of adapting, old industries try to shut it down so that they remain the only option available, because that's easier than improving. That's not how taxes work. How so? You mean to tell me that lobbies and corporations don't influence governments? Anything to keep Hollywood afloat without them having to actually improve their product, huh? Not even close. Chicago is levying the tax, not Hollywood. I'll refer you to my earlier post on the matter.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 6, 2015 10:19:16 GMT -5
How so? You mean to tell me that lobbies and corporations don't influence governments? I'll refer you to my earlier post on the matter. I don't doubt for a minute that lobbyists influence government. But to think Hollywood is excising this tax is beyond tin foil hat territory. If Hollywood was behind this, I would expect Los Angeles and New York to be influenced first. Yeah, this is all about Chicago trying not to become Detroit II: Municipal Bankruptcy Boogaloo.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jul 7, 2015 3:18:43 GMT -5
How so? You mean to tell me that lobbies and corporations don't influence governments? I'll refer you to my earlier post on the matter. I don't doubt for a minute that lobbyists influence government. But to think Hollywood is excising this tax is beyond tin foil hat territory. If Hollywood was behind this, I would expect Los Angeles and New York to be influenced first. Again, I was using "Hollywood" as a generic term for larger companies or industries or whatever you want to call it. You know, the groups threatened by the rise in popularity of streaming services. And I said that because when people think American cinema, they think Hollywood. Now can we PLEASE stop nitpicking details and talk about stuff that's actually relevant?
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 7, 2015 9:28:05 GMT -5
That's not how taxes work. How so? You mean to tell me that lobbies and corporations don't influence governments? Because in general the state taxes every thing that they consider not essential(i.e. food, clothing, some utilities), not to crush those industries, but to add money to the budgets. In fact adding taxes to slow the streaming industry would be a prime way for a politician to loose their job. There are some rare times when extra taxes are giving to lets say cigarettes to not only deter people from smoking them but due to the addictive nature adds a lot of revenue. But since the normal sales tax in Chicago is 9% there isn't really any reason to believe they are trying to stop or slow the growth of the streaming industry, anymore than you should believe that the taxes on action figures is part of some bigger plan.
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Post by corndog on Jul 14, 2015 10:07:20 GMT -5
not really that bad. The sales tax there is 9.25% In terms of WWE that's less than 1 dollar extra... That's the funny part, people are acting like this is to "hurt" and "cripple" the WWE Network, when it's really not even a big deal.
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