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Post by Stu on Aug 24, 2015 8:09:45 GMT -5
I enjoyed the show. I've read nothing but negative reviews online, which isn't surprising, seeing as we live in a culture where no one has any patience and wants everything bright and shiny and flashy, NOW NOW NOW!! It is what it is. Exactly. While I would have liked more action, I reminded myself that the original Walking Dead began with the outbreak right off the bat. This series was supposed to be about its origin point and I knew there would be a slow burn. It's sort of like when people expected Darth Vader to show up in The Phantom Menace, only for him to appear at the end of Revenge of the Sith (and yes, I'm aware that would have been better in hindsight). Last night's episode was supposed to lay the groundwork for the outbreak, and I think it did a decent job so far. I'm not sure if the show will be as good as the original Walking Dead, but I don't think it's supposed to be EXACTLY the same. And while I'm not too fond of all the characters (the daughter in particular), I wasn't fond of all the other Walking Dead characters at first, either. I know it's cliche around these parts, but we definitely need to take a "wait and see" approach.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Aug 24, 2015 8:32:04 GMT -5
I liked it. It was slow, but that was the point. If they had jumped to mass chaos within the first 15 minutes, I would have been disappointed.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 24, 2015 8:47:40 GMT -5
It's sort of like when people expected Darth Vader to show up in The Phantom Menace, only for him to appear at the end of Revenge of the Sith You -- you're joking, right?
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 24, 2015 8:50:39 GMT -5
I enjoyed the show. I've read nothing but negative reviews online, which isn't surprising, seeing as we live in a culture where no one has any patience and wants everything bright and shiny and flashy, NOW NOW NOW!! It is what it is. My biggest issues A)It relied on tired tropes for horror movies B)Introduced characters only to forget about them until it was important C)The plot kind of focused one issue for 5 minutes then jumped to another issue D)The opening sequence wasn't even mentioned for about 10 minutes which was vital
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Post by Stu on Aug 24, 2015 9:02:33 GMT -5
It's sort of like when people expected Darth Vader to show up in The Phantom Menace, only for him to appear at the end of Revenge of the Sith You -- you're joking, right? Nope. When Phantom Menace came out, there were fans who expected Anakin to turn into Darth Vader right away. Instead, his transformation lasted three films. Similarly, there were people who expected Fear The Walking Dead to feature chaos in the very first episode. But the entire series is supposed to be about the origins of the outbreak and, thus, would not feature as much action as the original Walking Dead premier. I'm not comparing the quality or plot of the shows if that's what you're wondering. Just the expectation among some fans that something was going to happen right away, only for it to be a slow burn.
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Post by BRV on Aug 24, 2015 11:38:52 GMT -5
I've never watched "The Walking Dead" outside of a few minutes of the pilot episode, but I have to admit I thoroughly enjoyed the first episode of "Fear the Walking Dead". The storyline is one that I've always wanted to see, whether in "I Am Legend" or "Dawn of the Dead" - the zombie apocalypse as it is happening. I always felt that would make for a great movie or TV series, to see things breaking down as opposed to what we always see; everything's great and then suddenly everything's not. I'm very curious to see the progression from normal society to zombie chaos.
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Aug 24, 2015 13:00:19 GMT -5
Loved the first episode and am now super hyped for the rest of the season. The little audio clues in the background throughout were awesome (the increase in sirens and helicopters among other things) and the characters seem ok so far.
I've seen people online (and few friends irl) complain about the zombies not looking like zombies right away and the lack of action and honestly, I don't know what they were expecting. The advertising and little snippets online leading up to it all kinda made it clear that this was going to be really early stage stuff.
Cannot wait to see the city break down over the course of the show, like the rioting in the previews at the end. This isn't a 'we're x amount of time into the apocalypse and everyone knows how to do deal with it already' scenario and I love that. It should be complete chaos and confusion.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 24, 2015 16:03:51 GMT -5
Last night’s special 90-minute series premiere of “Fear the Walking Dead” made television history, delivering 10.1 million live/same day viewers and becoming the #1 series premiere in cable television history for total viewers and all key demos. The episode delivered 6.3 million adults 18-49. In that coveted demographic, AMC now is home to three of the top five cable series premieres of all time in live/same day viewing – “Fear the Walking Dead” at #1 (2015), “Better Call Saul” at #2 (2015) and “The Walking Dead” at #5 (2010) – a remarkable accomplishment so far into the post-DVR era. A “Talking Dead” Season 6 Preview Special that preceded the “Fear” premiere last night delivered 4.2 million viewers, and 2.5 million adults 18-49.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 24, 2015 16:41:35 GMT -5
Plot Details for the last 5 episodes
"So Close, Yet So Far"
While Madison struggles to keep Nick from crippling withdrawal, Travis ventures out to find his son before Los Angeles falls.
"The Dog"
After they escape a riot, Travis, Liza and Chris seek refuge with the Salazars; Madison defends her home.
"Not Fade Away"
Madison and Travis see different sides of the National Guard's occupation in their neighborhood; the family tries to adapt to the new world.
"Cobalt"
The National Guard's plan for the neighborhood is revealed; Travis and Madison make a difficult decision.
"The Good Man"
As civil unrest grows, and the dead take over, Travis and Madison try to devise ways to protect their families.
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Post by Legion on Aug 24, 2015 16:56:00 GMT -5
I'm happy for a slow build show, even one where you know what it is coming, but my issue is that the characters are all such stock characters.
No one has any real appeal or anything that makes me want to watch and see what happens to them, even at a slow pace.
They were all just really boring.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 24, 2015 17:13:44 GMT -5
I hate the argument "people just want action, they need to wait for it ti build". That isn't the complaint, at all. I love character moments and development it is why I watch tv as no other medium can give as much attention to it aside from comics. No, my complaint is that nothing happened, it felt stretched out, we were given no reason to like or root for the characters.
I can watch talking heads for 2 hours if it engages me. This show did not.
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Post by Stu on Aug 24, 2015 17:23:22 GMT -5
I hate the argument "people just want action, they need to wait for it ti build". That isn't the complaint, at all. I love character moments and development it is why I watch tv as no other medium can give as much attention to it aside from comics. No, my complaint is that nothing happened, it felt stretched out, we were given no reason to like or root for the characters. I can watch talking heads for 2 hours if it engages me. This show did not. I just took it as two normal parents living through regular times before things get f***ed and they suddenly go Daryl or Carol on us. How would you have fixed it? Gimme an example of how they could've squeezed in more personality.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 24, 2015 17:27:55 GMT -5
I hate the argument "people just want action, they need to wait for it ti build". That isn't the complaint, at all. I love character moments and development it is why I watch tv as no other medium can give as much attention to it aside from comics. No, my complaint is that nothing happened, it felt stretched out, we were given no reason to like or root for the characters. I can watch talking heads for 2 hours if it engages me. This show did not. I just took it as two normal parents living through regular times before things get f***ed and they suddenly go Daryl or Carol on us. How would you have fixed it? Gimme an example of how they could've squeezed in more personality. Show more facets of their personality. Show more interactions between them. Better direction and writing in general. It all felt disconnected, like some outsiders view of "normal family people". Cut back on heroine boy, we got it, let the other relationships develop. Just use your time better in general.
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Post by Stu on Aug 24, 2015 17:33:43 GMT -5
Would it be an issue if we got the exact same amount of character development but in an hour-long episode rather than 90 minutes?
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Post by Legion on Aug 24, 2015 17:35:26 GMT -5
For me, it would be not to have used the stock standard characters.
Know it all mum that can control everyone else but not her own kid
Bitch daughter who dislikes step dad
Over nice step dad whose trying too hard
Bitch ex-wife of step dad
Bitch son of step dad
Black drug dealer
Nice older black guy in position of authority
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Really, this is the best they can do? Stock characters with no personality beyond heroin boy, whose only actual draw is that he's an addict, and even that will only play out one way.
I just watched this and felt 'if there weren't zombies coming, this would be a really shit drama show about drugs.'
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 24, 2015 17:37:27 GMT -5
Would it be an issue if we got the exact same amount of character development but in an hour-long episode rather than 90 minutes? It would have helped. As it wouldn't have felt so hollow and empty. But doing stuff better would have been, ya know, better. And to get this out there, I have hope for the series, I want to like it and I haven't given up. It was just a boring first date that doesn't have me overly excited for the second.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:27:11 GMT -5
Not the strongest pilot, but I can see it improving and going somewhere good.
I like that they Evil Dead'd (remake) the kid who was seeing all the zombo shit.
They definitely needed to move things along faster. 7 years ago this type of zombie show would have been really great, but now the archetype is so well established they can shorthand more stuff. Especially with the character development. They over established quite a but, but that's always the case with pilots.
I did like the slow unraveling of LA told through the microcosm of the school and how people kept not showing up.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 24, 2015 21:34:17 GMT -5
Not the strongest pilot, but I can see it improving and going somewhere good. I like that they Evil Dead'd (remake) the kid who was seeing all the zombo shit. They definitely needed to move things along faster. 7 years ago this type of zombie show would have been really great, but now the archetype is so well established they can shorthand more stuff. Especially with the character development. They over established quite a but, but that's always the case with pilots. I did like the slow unraveling of LA told through the microcosm of the school and how people kept not showing up. Ya know what? Make LA the star of the show, and a lot of my complaints are probably fixed.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Aug 24, 2015 23:06:03 GMT -5
I hate Nick already
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Post by Danimal on Aug 24, 2015 23:16:11 GMT -5
Eh, wasn't big on the first episode. An hour would have been better. Wasn't drawn into the characters enough for 90-minutes of set-up. Should get better once the sh*t really starts hitting the fan.
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