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Post by Clawley Race on Jul 21, 2015 17:08:10 GMT -5
Based on on the brawl last night, I think that's exactly the direction they're going in, and I actually think it'll be pretty decent I think no matter how they spin it, once the bell rings, and there's two men, and one of them's Brock Lesnar and the other one's The Undertaker, it's gonna be slow, awkward and shitty. They're a terrible matchup, Undertaker needs a broomstick worker because he literally has nothing left far as wrestling goes, and Brock Lesnar needs someone who can be thrown around and take abuse. You can argue it doesn't really matter if the match is something Billy Madison would set on fire on your doorstep, but that's what it's gonna be. lit a million dog poops...never drew a dime...
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Post by BRV on Jul 21, 2015 18:30:49 GMT -5
Based on on the brawl last night, I think that's exactly the direction they're going in, and I actually think it'll be pretty decent I think no matter how they spin it, once the bell rings, and there's two men, and one of them's Brock Lesnar and the other one's The Undertaker, it's gonna be slow, awkward and shitty. They're a terrible matchup, Undertaker needs a broomstick worker because he literally has nothing left far as wrestling goes, and Brock Lesnar needs someone who can be thrown around and take abuse. You can argue it doesn't really matter if the match is something Billy Madison would set on fire on your doorstep, but that's what it's gonna be. I keep thinking back to WrestleMania XIX when 49-year-old Hulk Hogan and 57-year-old Mr. McMahon had a very enjoyable street fight. Like I said, there are smoke-and-mirrors ways of masking their deficiencies and inabilities or the absurdity of Undertaker hanging with Brock Lesnar.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jul 21, 2015 19:23:13 GMT -5
I think no matter how they spin it, once the bell rings, and there's two men, and one of them's Brock Lesnar and the other one's The Undertaker, it's gonna be slow, awkward and shitty. They're a terrible matchup, Undertaker needs a broomstick worker because he literally has nothing left far as wrestling goes, and Brock Lesnar needs someone who can be thrown around and take abuse. You can argue it doesn't really matter if the match is something Billy Madison would set on fire on your doorstep, but that's what it's gonna be. I keep thinking back to WrestleMania XIX when 49-year-old Hulk Hogan and 57-year-old Mr. McMahon had a very enjoyable street fight. Like I said, there are smoke-and-mirrors ways of masking their deficiencies and inabilities or the absurdity of Undertaker hanging with Brock Lesnar. See I never cared for those Vince matches beyond the first one with Austin, especially as he got older. But then I mean, I haven't been big on Undertaker's matches starting with WM 28, save the Punk one. Just goofy, imo.
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Post by Vern on Jul 21, 2015 23:27:57 GMT -5
So, the card's looking like it will be: {Spoiler}-Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker -Seth Rollins vs John Cena -Rusev vs Kevin Owens vs Cesaro -Ryback vs Big Show vs Miz (if it's not settled on TV first) -Randy Orton vs Sheamus (again) -Neville (w/Stephen Amell) vs Stardust -Paige/Charlotte/Becky vs B.A.D. vs Bellas -Ambrose/Reigns vs Wyatt/Harper -Primetime Players vs New Day
with the ex-Shield maybe being joined by Sting and the Wyatts joined by a third? Is this the general opinion?
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 22, 2015 8:25:33 GMT -5
Why the f*** would Cena fight for the WWE championship when he still has the US title?
Never mind.
Anyway, I'm sad this is probably Brock's last match till next year as he's probably going to lose to The Undertaker and therefore his 2015, while dominant, hasn't yielded as many wins because the Reigns and Rollins matches both ended in shenanigans.
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Post by Germansuplex on Jul 22, 2015 12:16:11 GMT -5
Tickets arrived today, gf and me got awesome seats. I'd prefer a better card but I'm happy anyways.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jul 22, 2015 12:40:53 GMT -5
So, the card's looking like it will be: {Spoiler}-Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker -Seth Rollins vs John Cena -Rusev vs Kevin Owens vs Cesaro -Ryback vs Big Show vs Miz (if it's not settled on TV first) -Randy Orton vs Sheamus (again) -Neville (w/Stephen Amell) vs Stardust -Paige/Charlotte/Becky vs B.A.D. vs Bellas -Ambrose/Reigns vs Wyatt/Harper -Primetime Players vs New Day
with the ex-Shield maybe being joined by Sting and the Wyatts joined by a third? Is this the general opinion? I think Cesaro/Owens will be 1-on-1, and we'll get Rusev & Summer Rae vs Lana & Dolph (when he returns). That would leave us with 10 matches though. So a couple likely need to be dropped. My vote would go to the Tag Team title match, and either the IC title match or Orton/Sheamus.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 22, 2015 13:17:02 GMT -5
So, the card's looking like it will be: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}-Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker -Seth Rollins vs John Cena -Rusev vs Kevin Owens vs Cesaro -Ryback vs Big Show vs Miz (if it's not settled on TV first) -Randy Orton vs Sheamus (again) -Neville (w/Stephen Amell) vs Stardust -Paige/Charlotte/Becky vs B.A.D. vs Bellas -Ambrose/Reigns vs Wyatt/Harper -Primetime Players vs New Day
with the ex-Shield maybe being joined by Sting and the Wyatts joined by a third? Is this the general opinion? I think Cesaro/Owens will be 1-on-1, and we'll get Rusev & Summer Rae vs Lana & Dolph (when he returns). That would leave us with 10 matches though. So a couple likely need to be dropped. My vote would go to the Tag Team title match, and either the IC title match or Orton/Sheamus. Them doing a 10 match card does seem unlikely (even more so if they do one of those stupid musical performances they always like doing), even with one of them being on the pre show. Including the pre show match, almost all of their PPV's (sans Rumble) have 8 or 9. The last one, Battleground, only had 7. I can't even remember when was the last time they did a card with at least 10 matches. WM 29 maybe? The thing is though I can't see any of those matches not making the card. No way I see the IC match not making it as Show is one of those guys they always make sure gets a PPV spot. Same goes for Orton/Sheamus. I would say the tag title match but even that has been getting TV time on Raw. I doubt they would be putting focus on it if they had no plans of putting on the card. If Stephen Amell isn't involved then Neville/Stardust is one I could definitely see not making it and getting blown off on Raw. If he is involved though then that will definitely be on the main card for the celebrity attention. It will interesting to see what they end up doing.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jul 22, 2015 13:24:19 GMT -5
I think Cesaro/Owens will be 1-on-1, and we'll get Rusev & Summer Rae vs Lana & Dolph (when he returns). That would leave us with 10 matches though. So a couple likely need to be dropped. My vote would go to the Tag Team title match, and either the IC title match or Orton/Sheamus. Them doing a 10 match card does seem unlikely (even more so if they do one of those stupid musical performances they always like doing), even with one of them being on the pre show. Including the pre show match, almost all of their PPV's (sans Rumble) have 8 or 9. The last one, Battleground, only had 7. I can't even remember when was the last time they did a card with at least 10 matches. WM 29 maybe? The thing is though I can't see any of those matches not making the card. No way I see the IC match not making it as Show is one of those guys they always make sure gets a PPV spot. Same goes for Orton/Sheamus. I would say the tag title match but even that has been getting TV time on Raw. I doubt they would be putting focus on it if they had no plans of putting on the card. If Stephen Amell isn't involved then Neville/Stardust is one I could definitely see not making it and getting blown off on Raw. If he is involved though then that will definitely be on the main card for the celebrity attention. It will interesting to see what they end up doing. WM29 only had eight main-card matches. The only two PPVs in recent memory I can think of with matches in the double figures is WrestleMania XXVI and TLC 2011. Both had 10 matches.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 22, 2015 13:32:27 GMT -5
Them doing a 10 match card does seem unlikely (even more so if they do one of those stupid musical performances they always like doing), even with one of them being on the pre show. Including the pre show match, almost all of their PPV's (sans Rumble) have 8 or 9. The last one, Battleground, only had 7. I can't even remember when was the last time they did a card with at least 10 matches. WM 29 maybe? The thing is though I can't see any of those matches not making the card. No way I see the IC match not making it as Show is one of those guys they always make sure gets a PPV spot. Same goes for Orton/Sheamus. I would say the tag title match but even that has been getting TV time on Raw. I doubt they would be putting focus on it if they had no plans of putting on the card. If Stephen Amell isn't involved then Neville/Stardust is one I could definitely see not making it and getting blown off on Raw. If he is involved though then that will definitely be on the main card for the celebrity attention. It will interesting to see what they end up doing. WM29 only had eight main-card matches. The only two PPVs in recent memory I can think of with matches in the double figures is WrestleMania XXVI and TLC 2011. Both had 10 matches. Alright, I remember thinking that one had more for some reason. Although I guess if the Tons of Funk/Funkadactyls vs. Rhode Scholars/Bella Twins match didn't get cut for time it would've made ten with the pre show match included.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 20:00:40 GMT -5
Let's hope Lesnar Summerslam record his 2nd time around remains perfect. 3-0 since 2012. Too bad he lost to Angle that one year. Would've loved if he was Mr. Summerslam at 5-0. Ah well.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 23, 2015 10:31:26 GMT -5
Tickets arrived today, gf and me got awesome seats. I'd prefer a better card but I'm happy anyways. If Taker is about to pin Brock can you do a run-in and break up the count? Cheers.
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Post by Germansuplex on Jul 23, 2015 11:04:55 GMT -5
Tickets arrived today, gf and me got awesome seats. I'd prefer a better card but I'm happy anyways. If Taker is about to pin Brock can you do a run-in and break up the count? Cheers. If Brock protects me afterwards, I will do it.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jul 23, 2015 16:44:50 GMT -5
LESNAR V UNDERTAKER HELL IN A CELL if it's any measure of the mass brawl they had on raw ..... and taker looks BETTER than he did at wrestlemania!!! also a LOT more pissed off too!
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 24, 2015 7:50:37 GMT -5
LESNAR V UNDERTAKER HELL IN A CELL
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Post by Manute Bol on Jul 25, 2015 3:34:46 GMT -5
If this is in fact Brock Lesnar's last match of 2015, he'll have wrestled exactly one more match than the previous year in each year since his return:
2012 - 2 (Cena, Triple H) 2013 - 3 (Triple H 2x, CM Punk) 2014 - 4 (Big Show, Undertaker, John Cena 2x) 2015 - 5 (Cena/Rollins, Reigns/Rollins, Kofi, Rollins, Undertaker)
No real relevance to that; just an interesting pattern I noticed.
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Post by Vern on Jul 25, 2015 8:08:47 GMT -5
If this is in fact Brock Lesnar's last match of 2015, he'll have wrestled exactly one more match than the previous year in each year since his return: 2012 - 2 (Cena, Triple H) 2013 - 3 (Triple H 2x, CM Punk) 2014 - 4 (Big Show, Undertaker, John Cena 2x) 2015 - 5 (Cena/Rollins, Reigns/Rollins, Kofi, Rollins, Undertaker) No real relevance to that; just an interesting pattern I noticed. Another fun fact: Brock Lesnar's had 21 matches in the last 10 years. Kofi Kingston's had 21 matches since Money in the Bank.
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Post by Essential1 on Jul 25, 2015 12:56:31 GMT -5
Another fun fact:
Brock Lesnar hasn't wore trunks since 2004.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 25, 2015 15:12:07 GMT -5
I got {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}No DQ: Brock Lesnar vs Undertaker Champion vs Champion: Seth Rollins vs John Cena Ambrose, Reigns, Sting vs Wyatt, Harper, Dallas IC Championship: Big Show vs Ryback Team BAD vs Team Bella's vs Team Paige Rusev and Summer Rae vs Dolph Ziggler and Lana Cesaro vs Kevin Owens Randy Orton vs Sheamus
Stardust and The Miz vs Neville and Green Arrow Preshow: Tag titles New Day vs Ptp
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jul 26, 2015 1:25:01 GMT -5
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