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Post by Cranjis McBasketball☝🏻 on Jul 26, 2015 23:20:50 GMT -5
Hogan will be back. Firstly, I think the people who believe he's actually a racist and not just a f***ing dumbass are few and far between. I think he's actually sorry and not just sorry he got caught. He just said some shitty things, this is repairable and at the end of the day, all Vince, WWE and it's shareholders care about is the cash he can provide and he can provide it.
Chyna....well.....not so much...she can't draw anymore, that's her real biggest problem.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jul 26, 2015 23:36:02 GMT -5
All Hogan has to do is wait out the storm for the rest of this year, then do some high press interview where he talks about having all kinds of trouble at home, the reality show taking a toll on his family, the stress from Brooke's career not taking off...say he was in a bad place and blamed the world for his life taking a nosedive during that time. Given that it's almost a decade old and not something super recent that was recorded, I think he could convince the public that he's sorry. WWE welcomes him back sometime next year, and then I can finally get my Mattel nWo Hollywood Hogan figure.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 26, 2015 23:37:37 GMT -5
Can you really call it insecure when this is the situation "Hey, let's not hire my old serious girlfriend that's a porn star, loves drugs and makes up shit about me and posts it on the internet monthly." Seems more like a situation where hiring Chyna is like going out of the way to disturb a beehive. I'd say insecure is more of a case where you are over-reacting to the situation, and in my opinion that is not over reacting at all. I think that If it were anyone else, they'd probably overlook the porn and drugs stuff. It's the "Hunter's ex" part that makes them uncomfortable. Otherwise, they'd just hire her to keep her on a leash so she doesn't f*** up even further. And Chyna made shit up about him, she doesn't get a free pass on that, but it was Triple H's comments on Austin's podcast that set her off. No, Chyna has been going on about Triple H paying his friends to rape her and shit like that for years, it's just that after the fiasco of her getting kicked out of the porn industry, she went to Japan and lingered in obscurity for a while with nobody giving her any attention or exposure. The podcast just put attention back onto her, and she immediately jumped at the opportunity to start yammering away and being crazy again. I think it was like a day or two after the podcast that Russo said he was inviting Chyna to go onto his and tell her story, and that put her back into "circulation" so to speak, in terms of being invited onto radio shows and stuff. Completely by accident, the question reminded people of her and gave her a shred of "relevance" that she did as much as she could with, but all of the stuff she claimed was stuff she had been saying for long before this happened. And there's no overlooking the porn and drugs stuff when she was deemed such a wreck in public that the industry blacklisted her; WWE would have to want a disaster to hire her no matter how short the leash is.
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Post by alexwrightspackage on Jul 26, 2015 23:39:42 GMT -5
More money with a HH return. His stuff will blow over faster than we expect. Hell maybe even by Wrestlemania.
He just needs to do a better job of disappearing (ie from twitter) for now to garner more sympathy. He said what he needed to say in the statement, that's it, he should go away until Vince calls him back.
The sad thing would be if he dies before he comes back; it'll feel a bit like Joe Paterno not being welcomed back by Penn State before dying, or perhaps like Macho Man passing before he got into the HoF. Obviously different circumstances across all three, but would still be sad.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 27, 2015 10:15:18 GMT -5
Man. I thought at least one person would choose Chyna. Damn. This was one of those "don't talk about the no-hitter" deals wasn't it?
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 27, 2015 10:16:58 GMT -5
Man. I thought at least one person would choose Chyna. Damn. This was one of those "don't talk about the no-hitter" deals wasn't it? Some people just want to watch the world burn
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 27, 2015 12:41:33 GMT -5
Hogan is gone because of publicity, he is also their biggest draw of all time and the most iconic name in wrestling. He will, like it or not, be back when this all blows over.
I actually think Chyna is deserving of more respect and is criminally underrated as a talent, but she hasn't got anywhere near as much to offer as the human leather couch. So it'll definitely be Hogan.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 27, 2015 14:09:42 GMT -5
If Hogan doesn't cut back on all the Twittering, the correct answer's going to end up being Jeff Jarrett.
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Post by Prince Petty on Jul 27, 2015 17:21:14 GMT -5
Chyna will never, ever be back. There's no money to be made from it for the WWE, so why would they bother?
Hogan will be one day, if he shuts up, rehabs his image a little and interest in him dies down. I doubt he'll be doing any fun segments that involve The Rock again, though.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Jul 27, 2015 17:30:59 GMT -5
who ever dies first
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 27, 2015 17:31:43 GMT -5
Hogan will be back whether he works to rehabilitate his image or not because the WWE doesn't see itself as a company that has a race problem. He won't be used as often for the first year after his return, but he'll still appear on the network or taped segments they can sweeten any negative responses he gets from a live crowd.
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on Jul 27, 2015 17:53:27 GMT -5
Gave Chyna a pity vote.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 27, 2015 18:00:34 GMT -5
Hogan. Chyna will never be back.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jul 27, 2015 18:00:28 GMT -5
Has the tape itself actually been made publicly available to hear? I personally havent heard it. If it hasn't, thats good for Hogan.
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Post by Evil Homer on Jul 27, 2015 19:38:49 GMT -5
Hogan's name is synonymous with wrestling , He will be back once this cools off . Chyna accused one of the bosses of physical abuse - IMO is unlikely they ever do business with her
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 27, 2015 20:12:47 GMT -5
Hogan...
eventho he's an awful human being he's still the biggest name in wrestling. Eventually people will want to see red and yellow and be willing to forgive him... He bounced back from trying to profit off his kid crippling another person he'll sure enough overcome this.
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 27, 2015 23:44:52 GMT -5
Hogan will be back, but not for at least a year. In the meantime, he's going to have to keep himself on a _very_ short leash. He'll need literally to hit the gym, lawyer up (for PR purposes) and delete all his social media. But he's not a lost cause, and he can use the time off to think about what he's done wrong over the last few years and make a concerted effort to redeem himself.
Chyna, on the other hand, is not even a hot mess at this point. She can't be trusted and continues to behave in ways that embarrass the company and Paul and Steph in particular. Their discomfort, to an extent, is self-imposed; Paul comes off as an opportunist and Stephanie comes off looking as though she's useless as anything but a daughter, wife and mother, incapable of running the company on her own. However, the longer Chyna's grudge continues, the more that people begin to question her contributions to the company and to the business as a whole; and the more people question her worthiness to be inducted. At the rate it's been going, she won't be inducted until about three to five years _after_ Benoit is. Yeah, I know what I'm saying, but hear me out. WWE can at least spin the Benoit tragedy as something that directed their attention to the issue of head injuries and CTE and mental illness, inspiring them to make changes, and they can eventually (I think) revisit the tragedy and Benoit's work as possibly redemptive. He's not posting shit about Trips and Steph; he's not there periodically ripping the scab away from the wounds. Eventually that wound may heal.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 27, 2015 23:54:50 GMT -5
she won't be inducted until about three to five years _after_ Benoit is. Yeah, I know what I'm saying, but hear me out. WWE can at least spin the Benoit tragedy as something that directed their attention to the issue of head injuries and CTE and mental illness, inspiring them to make changes, and they can eventually (I think) revisit the tragedy and Benoit's work as possibly redemptive. ..uh... no. Just no.
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 28, 2015 0:21:10 GMT -5
she won't be inducted until about three to five years _after_ Benoit is. Yeah, I know what I'm saying, but hear me out. WWE can at least spin the Benoit tragedy as something that directed their attention to the issue of head injuries and CTE and mental illness, inspiring them to make changes, and they can eventually (I think) revisit the tragedy and Benoit's work as possibly redemptive. ..uh... no. Just no. That's just, like, your opinion, man. Vince might always have a dim view of things, but that's not necessarily been the experience or belief of either Paul or Steph. Even if Benoit never gets into the HoF, time is being very kind to what happened that weekend and why; WWE's support of SLI might be a gateway to such a movement. WWE is learning that expressing a "never say never" approach for even the biggest challenges to their image helps their bottom line, especially if those challenges aren't still walking around and saying stupid things.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 28, 2015 0:36:51 GMT -5
That's just, like, your opinion, man. Vince might always have a dim view of things, but that's not necessarily been the experience or belief of either Paul or Steph. Even if Benoit never gets into the HoF, time is being very kind to what happened that weekend and why; WWE's support of SLI might be a gateway to such a movement. WWE is learning that expressing a "never say never" approach for even the biggest challenges to their image helps their bottom line, especially if those challenges aren't still walking around and saying stupid things. I think he's talking about the idea that they'll suddenly start praising Benoit just Because they think that lowly of Chyna.
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