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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 27, 2015 14:31:15 GMT -5
The Wasteland has to be up there. What previously was just a way for people to end a fireman's carry/airplane spin suddenly became a top finisher? Speaking of fireman's carry moves... I'm not a big fan of the AA either, but it's at least slightly better than the Wasteland. But yeah, there's far too many even worse moves out there... to the point where I'm going to get GIFmaking and fill this thread with some horrible crap. Gotta find a decent copy of Slaughter's noogie and it's on! "Wade's Slam" was awesome. Not too flashy, just a 6'5 dude whipping the other dude into the mat full force
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Post by Malcolm on Jul 27, 2015 14:40:31 GMT -5
Go 2 sleep(no Muta's, though). More like "Put me 2 sleep". When Punk was doing it, sure. KENTA's was nearly always great. That's who I meant. Kenta. I don't know why I said Muta. Why did I say Muta?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 27, 2015 14:53:00 GMT -5
The 'AA': It has mutated from a Death Valley Driver (which loooks fantastic when done correctly), to a Fireman's Carry Takeover to a move I didn't even notice had been used in the last Cena/Owens match. It was almost like Owens had tripped over or something. I'm not being a dick here, but so many people say this, and I have never once seen him do it as a DVD. It's always been a fireman's carry slam when I've seen him do it. Do you have any footage of it being a DVD? As for finishers, the Worm doesn't suck because it was over. Least effective looking? Sure. But wrestling is about crowd reactions above all else, and people loved the Worm and cheered when he did it. If it wasn't so over, I would also cite the 619 simply because I hate how it looks - but it's at least more logical as a finisher than the immediate follow up, which was the world's smallest man jumping on people. At Survivor Series 2005, Big Show takes like six finishers in a row and the one that finally finishes him off is a man less than a third of his size landing on him from three feet up. The AA was never meant to be a DVD. The whole point of the "FU" was that he picked a guy up in Brock's "F5" position, and then just shrugged the guy off of his shoulders and let them fall onto their back. The whole point was for it to be disrespecting Brock. It actually started looking better when Cena kept his arm on the guy so it looked like he was actually putting effort in to slam the guy to the mat.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jul 27, 2015 15:13:37 GMT -5
When Punk was doing it, sure. KENTA's was nearly always great. That's who I meant. Kenta. I don't know why I said Muta. Why did I say Muta? Maybe thinking of the Shining Wizard? Most people don't pull it off besides him either.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 27, 2015 15:38:00 GMT -5
Jesus, it looks like one of those WWE 2K create-a-finishers gone horribly awry.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 27, 2015 15:47:44 GMT -5
Styles Clash / Neutralizer,whatever you wanna call it,you can be the most gifted wrestler,that move never looks like it hurts
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 27, 2015 16:02:45 GMT -5
I think I've read every post in this thread...so...NO mentions for the Overdrive or Zack Attack? Both were awful...
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 27, 2015 16:10:01 GMT -5
I think I've read every post in this thread...so...NO mentions for the Overdrive or Zack Attack? Both were awful... If you missed overdrive posts you didnt read a lot of the thread
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 27, 2015 16:14:45 GMT -5
I think I've read every post in this thread...so...NO mentions for the Overdrive or Zack Attack? Both were awful... If you missed overdrive posts you didnt read a lot of the thread Woof. I thought I did. Guess not!
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Post by Muskrat on Jul 27, 2015 16:15:17 GMT -5
I'm not being a dick here, but so many people say this, and I have never once seen him do it as a DVD. It's always been a fireman's carry slam when I've seen him do it. Do you have any footage of it being a DVD? As for finishers, the Worm doesn't suck because it was over. Least effective looking? Sure. But wrestling is about crowd reactions above all else, and people loved the Worm and cheered when he did it. If it wasn't so over, I would also cite the 619 simply because I hate how it looks - but it's at least more logical as a finisher than the immediate follow up, which was the world's smallest man jumping on people. At Survivor Series 2005, Big Show takes like six finishers in a row and the one that finally finishes him off is a man less than a third of his size landing on him from three feet up. The AA was never meant to be a DVD. The whole point of the "FU" was that he picked a guy up in Brock's "F5" position, and then just shrugged the guy off of his shoulders and let them fall onto their back. The whole point was for it to be disrespecting Brock. It actually started looking better when Cena kept his arm on the guy so it looked like he was actually putting effort in to slam the guy to the mat. Just watched the first 2 F-U's Cena ever did, to Rikishi and then Lesnar, and the first one looks kinda like a DVD on Rikishi but the second one (which Cole openly calls a Death Valley Driver) is closer to what became known as the F-U
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 27, 2015 16:17:54 GMT -5
Styles Clash / Neutralizer,whatever you wanna call it,you can be the most gifted wrestler,that move never looks like it hurts ...Whatever you want to call the two different moves?
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Post by Ashy Larry on Jul 27, 2015 16:18:52 GMT -5
Rough Ryder and Finn Balor's stomp.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 27, 2015 16:19:35 GMT -5
Styles Clash / Neutralizer,whatever you wanna call it,you can be the most gifted wrestler,that move never looks like it hurts ...Whatever you want to call the two different moves? I have REALLY bad memories with names,but didn`t Styles,McCool and AJ Styles use that awful finisherT(The Neutralizer because that one I know the name )
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 27, 2015 16:25:58 GMT -5
...Whatever you want to call the two different moves? I have REALLY bad memories with names,but didn`t Styles,McCool and AJ Styles use that awful finisherT(The Neutralizer because that one I know the name ) I was just being pedantic, the moves have similar payoffs but slightly different setups. I'm not sure if Styles ever used the Neutraliser (I'm far from a fan of his), but the Styles Clash is a different move, where you hook your legs behind each arm and hold them lower than a piledriver (which is the basis of the Neutraliser). That was a clusterf*** of words, I hope you understood what I was on about!
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jul 27, 2015 16:30:28 GMT -5
Starship Pain (It's not a bad finisher, it's just Morrison would never hit it right) Playmaker/Overdrive What ever the hell Byron Saxton is doing Heart Punch Lie Detector The Bullhammer (I don't get how an elbow shot with a elbow pad makes this move way more deadly) Hyperdrive Atomic Leg Drop (Hogan is always talking about his huge arms and his finishing move is a leg drop. This always fascinated me)
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Post by Dub H on Jul 27, 2015 16:31:53 GMT -5
I have REALLY bad memories with names,but didn`t Styles,McCool and AJ Styles use that awful finisherT(The Neutralizer because that one I know the name ) I was just being pedantic, the moves have similar payoffs but slightly different setups. I'm not sure if Styles ever used the Neutraliser (I'm far from a fan of his), but the Styles Clash is a different move, where you hook your legs behind each arm and hold them lower than a piledriver (which is the basis of the Neutraliser). That was a clusterf*** of words, I hope you understood what I was on about! Ah yes,i see what you mean.But my issues is the Payoff that looks to do no harm.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 27, 2015 16:34:09 GMT -5
I was just being pedantic, the moves have similar payoffs but slightly different setups. I'm not sure if Styles ever used the Neutraliser (I'm far from a fan of his), but the Styles Clash is a different move, where you hook your legs behind each arm and hold them lower than a piledriver (which is the basis of the Neutraliser). That was a clusterf*** of words, I hope you understood what I was on about! Ah yes,i see what you mean.But my issues is the Payoff that looks to do no harm. No argument from me there. Everything Cesaro does looks like more of a finisher.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 27, 2015 16:35:23 GMT -5
The Bullhammer is boss. I love me a good elbow strike as a finish, whether its Misawa, Chris Hero, or King Bad News. BOOM!
Hogan's finisher in Japan was the Axe Bomber, which makes a hell of a lot more sense.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 27, 2015 16:35:48 GMT -5
If you missed overdrive posts you didnt read a lot of the thread Woof. I thought I did. Guess not! I'm being 100% serious. People who say woof like that are the best
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Post by hossfan on Jul 27, 2015 16:39:46 GMT -5
Not's saying it's the worst, but I never liked the Zig Zag. Someone with Ziggler's ability deserves a better finisher. Plus I think a face shouldn't have a move where he's essentially attacking his opponent from behind.
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