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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 21:37:19 GMT -5
I feel like I'm the only person who was satisfied with the show. People are in fact aware that regardless of whether or not it aired on the Network this was still a house show right? This is exactly what you'd find on a house show. Anyone who was expecting a shocking twist in the story or a title change were setting themselves up for disappointment I'm afraid. And damnit, that cage match was pretty damn good. When 2015 comes to a close, it's going to be a tie between John Cena and Seth Rollins for hardest working wrestler of the year. Yeah I don't think the show was as bad as people are making it seem. It's just a bonus show, the stakes weren't really supposed to be all that high for any of the matches.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 21:38:16 GMT -5
So who is Kane banging to get this push? Local Man bangs everyone#LocalManAll
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 21:38:50 GMT -5
I feel like I'm the only person who was satisfied with the show. People are in fact aware that regardless of whether or not it aired on the Network this was still a house show right? This is exactly what you'd find on a house show. Anyone who was expecting a shocking twist in the story or a title change were setting themselves up for disappointment I'm afraid. And damnit, that cage match was pretty damn good. When 2015 comes to a close, it's going to be a tie between John Cena and Seth Rollins for hardest working wrestler of the year. I just don't think it's that much to ask to, if you're going to spend TV time building a show up, at least make there be something of substance to it. And even then, I could've gotten behind dumb meaningless fun, but they kept interrupting it with pointless promos and video packages for no reason. And no, Cena / Rollins matches are not good. Ever. They're all just them doing an endless array of big moves with no logic behind them with nobody selling anything until eventually Cena hits an AA and wins. They're good in the way a match in 2K15 is good, except there people at least actually take a second to get up after being hit with a move.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 21:42:25 GMT -5
At least give Team 3D the belts to make it worth while
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Oct 3, 2015 21:45:01 GMT -5
I feel like I'm the only person who was satisfied with the show. People are in fact aware that regardless of whether or not it aired on the Network this was still a house show right? This is exactly what you'd find on a house show. Anyone who was expecting a shocking twist in the story or a title change were setting themselves up for disappointment I'm afraid. And damnit, that cage match was pretty damn good. When 2015 comes to a close, it's going to be a tie between John Cena and Seth Rollins for hardest working wrestler of the year. I just don't think it's that much to ask to, if you're going to spend TV time building a show up, at least make there be something of substance to it. And even then, I could've gotten behind dumb meaningless fun, but they kept interrupting it with pointless promos and video packages for no reason. And no, Cena / Rollins matches are not good. Ever. They're all just them doing an endless array of big moves with no logic behind them with nobody selling anything until eventually Cena hits an AA and wins. They're good in the way a match in 2K15 is good, except there people at least actually take a second to get up after being hit with a move. To each their own I guess. I just find their matches really fun to watch.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 3, 2015 21:52:08 GMT -5
It's not merely a house show if they are shilling it on their TV programming, showing it on the network, and sacrificing Cesaro in order to hype it up.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 3, 2015 21:53:04 GMT -5
Well that sucked. I just want Jericho to go away. Go away and never return. No Hall of Fame, no Podcasts, no DVDs/Network Specials, no anything. I don't care that he "deserves" them. Go away and never come back. I am so sick of him. f*** off to Fozzyland and stay there. Every appearance is worse than the last.
The Cena thing, I, WWE is about to crash hard if he really does take an extended absence and they have no one to blame but Vince, though sadly it will fall on the wrestlers for not getting over after having zero opportunities. Again, couldn't walk out the cage while Kane had Seth distracted? I don't get it. At least have him mention he deserves a match for the WWE Title even if he doesn't get it.
The tag match, I get it is a house show and all but did we need a repeat of the PPV? At least have someone else go through the table or something. I'm not asking for them to go to PPV levels, just not repeat a match we just saw.
Should have done as I did with Beast in the East and quit after the Brock match.
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Post by cageking666 on Oct 3, 2015 21:53:17 GMT -5
So who is Kane banging to get this push? Local Man bangs everyone....clearly I missed the memo
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 3, 2015 21:54:26 GMT -5
To take a break from whining about what WWE will always do no matter what (present something as alright when Cena does it but terrible from anyone else) let's look at the positive, that was a f***ing awesome match up! they used the cage in many innovative ways, to make the best cage match I've ever seen.
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Post by MrElijah on Oct 3, 2015 21:55:04 GMT -5
So who is Kane banging to get this push? Jack Tunney's corpse. I knew Tunney was crooked but this far? And I thought a just 20 spot would seal the deal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 21:55:24 GMT -5
WWE is about to crash hard if he really does take an extended absence It's okay! They have that hot young upstart Kane!
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 21:55:54 GMT -5
Well that sucked. I just want Jericho to go away. Go away and never return. No Hall of Fame, no Podcasts, no DVDs/Network Specials, no anything. I don't care that he "deserves" them. Go away and never come back. I am so sick of him. f*** off to Fozzyland and stay there. Every appearance is worse than the last. The Cena thing, I, WWE is about to crash hard if he really does take an extended absence and they have no one to blame but Vince, though sadly it will fall on the wrestlers for not getting over after having zero opportunities. Again, couldn't walk out the cage while Kane had Seth distracted? I don't get it. At least have him mention he deserves a match for the WWE Title even if he doesn't get it. The tag match, I get it is a house show and all but did we need a repeat of the PPV? At least have someone else go through the table or something. I'm not asking for them to go to PPV levels, just not repeat a match we just saw. Should have done as I did with Beast in the East and quit after the Brock match. Poor Reigns going to get the blame for not drawing
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 21:56:21 GMT -5
WWE is about to crash hard if he really does take an extended absence It's okay! They have that hot young upstart Kane! And yet dave is saying it's not long enough
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Post by MrElijah on Oct 3, 2015 21:59:13 GMT -5
It's okay! They have that hot young upstart Kane! And yet dave is saying it's not long enough WWE's logic: The brand sells itself, no matter who's the guy on top.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 22:01:25 GMT -5
Dave had a thing saying the fans would turn on Reigns again if they do a rematch with Brock. I say to hell with that go for it. they have to find their future
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 22:04:59 GMT -5
And yet dave is saying it's not long enough WWE's logic: The brand sells itself, no matter who's the guy on top. See, they say that, but if they actually believed it they wouldn't be endlessly pouring money into the Rock / Lesnar / Taker / Jericho / Batista / whoever moneysink every few months. Dave had a thing saying the fans would turn on Reigns again if they do a rematch with Brock. I say to hell with that go for it. they have to find their future And their future isn't going to be in forcing someone into a position the crowd doesn't want them in and doing the exact same thing that already failed once. Reigns is in a good position right now, they should just drop the idea of making Mania a big crowning moment for him and instead just give him the belt at Survivor Series and see if he sinks or swims. It's better to give him the belt relatively out of nowhere now than to telegraph the hell out of in six months and risk the crowd getting just as resentful as they did last year, and it's not like winning the belt at Mania is what's needed to make somebody a star.
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Post by hbkid718 on Oct 3, 2015 22:06:22 GMT -5
Here are the facts about WWE Live From MSG. And for the record, I thought it was a solid show. It was better than Beast in the East & Night of Champions, for that matter. The only thing I didn't like was the Diva's Match. Everything else was good, especially Cena VS Rollins. Despite the finish, which Stevie Wonder saw from a mile away, the match was the best Cena VS Rollins match this year.
Now, here are the facts WWE Live From MSG is the 4th Network Exclusive Special of 2015 & the 1st since Brock Lesnar Beast In The East Live From Tokyo Randy Orton & Dolph Ziggler VS Rusev & Sheamus was Ziggler’s 3rd Network Exclusive Special in a row, Sheamus’ 1st Network Exclusive & opener since King of The Ring on April 28, Orton & Rusev’s Network Exclusive debut, & Ziggler became the 1st person to go from the main event of one Network Exclusive to the opener of the next Neville VS Stardust was Stardust’s 1st Network Exclusive since Elimination Chamber on May 31, Neville’s 4th straight Network Exclusive, making him the only wrestler to compete at every Network Exclusive Special in 2015, & their 5th re-match Team PCB VS Team Bella was Nikki & Paige’s 3rd straight Network Exclusive special, everyone else’s Network Exclusive debut, the 1st time since King of The Ring on April 28 that the Diva’s Title was not defended on a Network Exclusive special, their 3rd re-match, & this & the previous match were the 1st matches to take place on Raw & then re-matched on the following week’s Network Exclusive special Chris Jericho VS Kevin Owens was Jericho’s 2nd Network Exclusive special in a row, his 1st match overall since SummerSlam on August 23, Owen’s 3rd Network Exclusive special in a row, the 12th Intercontinental Championship Match of 2015, the 1st since Smackdown on October 1, & the 1st for a Network Exclusive since Elimination Chamber on May 31 The Dudley Boyz VS The New Day was Bubba & D-Von’s 1st Network Exclusive special of 2015, Big E’s 1st since Elimination Chamber on May 31, Kofi Kingston’s 3rd in a row, the 16th Tag Team Championship Match of 2015, the 1st since Night of Champions on September 20, the 1st on a Network Exclusive special since Elimination Chamber on May 31, the 1st Disqualification for a Network Exclusive since Elimination Chamber on May 31, 1st Disqualification overall since Raw on September 28, their 3rd re-match. & 5th match to be re-matched from Night of Champions Brock Lesnar VS The Big Show was Lesnar’s 2nd Network Exclusive special in a row & his 1st match overall since SummerSlam on August 23, & The Big Show’s Network Exclusive debut John Cena VS Seth Rollins was Cena’s 3rd Network Exclusive special in a row & 2nd straight main event, Rollins’ 1st Network Exclusive special & main event since Elimination Chamber on May 31, the 1st Steel Cage Match of 2015, the 21st United States Championship of 2015, the 1st since Raw on September 28, the 1st US Title Match on a Network Exclusive special, the 2nd straight Network Exclusive special to not have an World Heavyweight Championship Match, their 6th re-match, & the 550th Singles Match in WWE & NXT on TV & Pay-Per-View in 2015
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 3, 2015 22:06:52 GMT -5
One day, someone in the company will realize that the door destroys all credibility in cage matches and will rid us of it.
I can't suspend my disbelief to think that anyone would ever climb out of the cage after incapacitating their opponent when there is a door right in front of their faces.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 22:09:21 GMT -5
One day, someone in the company will realize that the door destroys all credibility in cage matches and will rid us of it. I can't suspend my disbelief to think that anyone would ever climb out of the cage after incapacitating their opponent when there is a door right in front of their faces. They been doing this since the 80's. it won't leave
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 22:09:23 GMT -5
And yet dave is saying it's not long enough WWE's logic: The brand sells itself, no matter who's the guy on top. But if Cena loses, and his merch sales drop, fix that shit.
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