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Post by dreidemy on Aug 1, 2015 19:25:15 GMT -5
All the reactions are from former TNA guys? He's not wrong but its a stupid thing to say when your business learned a few things from that "fake" industry
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 1, 2015 19:26:22 GMT -5
I never understood why so many people care that wrestling is "fake". It's meant to be entertainment. It's like someone saying they liked The Avengers movie and I respond by saying "you know IT'S FAKE!!! Aliens led by a Norse God didn't really attack New York City a couple of years ago!". What are you trying to prove? Would I really be a better person because I sit down bored out of my mind watching golf for three hours at a stretch simply because it's "real"?
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Post by Sicho100 on Aug 1, 2015 19:26:28 GMT -5
Punk himself is fine with it being called fake, and I don't believe for a second that that's Dana speaking through him or whatever. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Punk has called wrestling fake himself, but the reason he didn't get blowback and Dana White has is that, as fans, we can trust that he doesn't mean it derisively. I feel like the big reason that so many of us (myself included) cringe at the "You know wrestling is fake, right?" question is not that it seems to discount the beating the wrestlers put themselves through. It's that the question signifies a certain sense of superiority from the person saying it, suggesting that someone can only like wrestling if they think it's a legitimate sport, and that only an idiot would believe that. So, to us, the question is less an insult to the pro wrestling industry and more of a personal insult - it's not an attack on the wrestlers or the promoters or so on, but an attack on the fans, ie us. Even when we couch our language in defending the wrestlers ("You take a bump and tell me how fake it is!"), we really are defending ourselves as fans.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 1, 2015 19:30:25 GMT -5
Punk himself is fine with it being called fake, and I don't believe for a second that that's Dana speaking through him or whatever. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Punk has called wrestling fake himself, but the reason he didn't get blowback and Dana White has is that, as fans, we can trust that he doesn't mean it derisively. I feel like the big reason that so many of us (myself included) cringe at the "You know wrestling is fake, right?" question is not that it seems to discount the beating the wrestlers put themselves through. It's that the question signifies a certain sense of superiority from the person saying it, suggesting that someone can only like wrestling if they think it's a legitimate sport, and that only an idiot would believe that. So, to us, the question is less an insult to the pro wrestling industry and more of a personal insult - it's not an attack on the wrestlers or the promoters or so on, but an attack on the fans, ie us. Even when we couch our language in defending the wrestlers ("You take a bump and tell me how fake it is!"), we really are defending ourselves as fans. I agree with that. I don't think Dana meant it insultingly, though. Though maybe I'm giving him too much credit.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 1, 2015 19:32:49 GMT -5
I never understood why so many people care that wrestling is "fake". It's meant to be entertainment. It's like someone saying they liked The Avengers movie and I respond by saying "you know IT'S FAKE!!! Aliens led by a Norse God didn't really attack New York City a couple of years ago!". What are you trying to prove? Would I really be a better person because I sit down bored out of my mind watching golf for three hours at a stretch simply because it's "real"? "I guess Hulk transforming and punching that huge alien was pretty cool but, y'know, it was all green screen and special effects and actors and stuff. Totally fake."
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Post by Pensacola Tableheads on Aug 1, 2015 19:33:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Punk has called wrestling fake himself, but the reason he didn't get blowback and Dana White has is that, as fans, we can trust that he doesn't mean it derisively. I feel like the big reason that so many of us (myself included) cringe at the "You know wrestling is fake, right?" question is not that it seems to discount the beating the wrestlers put themselves through. It's that the question signifies a certain sense of superiority from the person saying it, suggesting that someone can only like wrestling if they think it's a legitimate sport, and that only an idiot would believe that. So, to us, the question is less an insult to the pro wrestling industry and more of a personal insult - it's not an attack on the wrestlers or the promoters or so on, but an attack on the fans, ie us. Even when we couch our language in defending the wrestlers ("You take a bump and tell me how fake it is!"), we really are defending ourselves as fans. I agree with that. I don't think Dana meant it insultingly, though. Though maybe I'm giving him too much credit. He's played the "fake" card for years, though. There's a reason the UFC slogan used to be "As Real As It Gets."
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Post by Lancers on Aug 1, 2015 19:33:59 GMT -5
Regardless of what he said, the fact that UFC is charging 60 dollars for what I fully expect will be a 15 second main event is pitiful.
And like someone on the UG eloquently put regarding their new uniforms; these fighters now look like a deck of UNO cards.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 1, 2015 19:43:21 GMT -5
What's funny is Dana responded to him like 3 times. Why not just ignore the tweet?
I'm a big MMA fan but Dana is a complete muppet.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 1, 2015 19:46:41 GMT -5
People would have some fun with him if Ronda lost tonight
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 1, 2015 19:55:46 GMT -5
Wow. Way to go for the low hanging fruit, Mr. White.
Ya f***ing douche.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 1, 2015 20:02:31 GMT -5
Also, I LOVE how he's saying this like he isn't scouring every 3rd string dojo in America to find an opponent CM Punk's guaranteed to beat. *Dana White is talking to CM Punk about his first fight.* Dana White: Okay, you're fightin' a guy named Boxcar Bob. CM Punk: Brawled his way up from the boxcars, did he? Dana White: Uh, no, not yet. He still lives at the train yard. But he's a hungry young fighter. In fact, he's actually fightin' for a sandwich. Punk: Really? Dana: Yeah, if he loses to you he gets a sandwich, if he wins he gets nothing.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Aug 1, 2015 20:03:51 GMT -5
In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue. C'mon, you aren't some super-genius to figure that one out.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 1, 2015 20:12:43 GMT -5
He made up for it by calling Jeremey Borash a goofball though.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 1, 2015 20:13:15 GMT -5
Dana's dumb for responding to trolls, but he's right. Pro wrestling is fake. Everyone needs to stop being offended by it.
And the people hating on the Rousey fight are laughable. Rousey became a megastar by finishing fights quickly. When people watched Mike Tyson on PPV and didn't give a flip about the undercard, they never though "wow, all that money for 2-3 rounds". People want to see Rousey destroy people. The issue with the show tonight is that Correia is a mis-match, but there was no one left at this time.
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Post by Pensacola Tableheads on Aug 1, 2015 20:16:55 GMT -5
Dana's dumb for responding to trolls, but he's right. Pro wrestling is fake. Everyone needs to stop being offended by it. And the people hating on the Rousey fight are laughable. Rousey became a megastar by finishing fights quickly. When people watched Mike Tyson on PPV and didn't give a flip about the undercard, they never though "wow, all that money for 2-3 rounds". People want to see Rousey destroy people. The issue with the show tonight is that Correia is a mis-match, but there was no one left at this time. Bethe was also able to promote herself into the fight despite her track record not being up to par.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 1, 2015 20:23:37 GMT -5
Dana's dumb for responding to trolls, but he's right. Pro wrestling is fake. Everyone needs to stop being offended by it. And the people hating on the Rousey fight are laughable. Rousey became a megastar by finishing fights quickly. When people watched Mike Tyson on PPV and didn't give a flip about the undercard, they never though "wow, all that money for 2-3 rounds". People want to see Rousey destroy people. The issue with the show tonight is that Correia is a mis-match, but there was no one left at this time. So you're cool spending 50 bucks for a "fight" that's gonna last ten seconds? There's no way the undercard can be worth that.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 1, 2015 20:26:56 GMT -5
He made up for it by calling Jeremey Borash a goofball though. "I'm going to use this situation to announce that I'm doing something for PR even though my company probably doesn't have the money" EAD Jeremy.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 1, 2015 20:29:01 GMT -5
Dana's dumb for responding to trolls, but he's right. Pro wrestling is fake. Everyone needs to stop being offended by it. And the people hating on the Rousey fight are laughable. Rousey became a megastar by finishing fights quickly. When people watched Mike Tyson on PPV and didn't give a flip about the undercard, they never though "wow, all that money for 2-3 rounds". People want to see Rousey destroy people. The issue with the show tonight is that Correia is a mis-match, but there was no one left at this time. So you're cool spending 50 bucks for a "fight" that's gonna last ten seconds? There's no way the undercard can be worth that. Ronda is can't miss at this point. And the undercard is actually pretty good. So yes. And hundreds of thousands of others will do the same.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 1, 2015 20:31:27 GMT -5
He's right though.
I mean, yeah they are too in that to quote the disclaimer 'the hazards are real', but by definition it's a performance/fake.
The only mistake he made was the word has an unnecessarily negative connotation.
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 1, 2015 20:33:49 GMT -5
I'll tell you this much, if Rousey loses tonight because she let anger get in the way of her mission to win, and that sets up a blood feud rematch for the title, then Dana can come back onto Twitter and remind us how real MMA is.
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