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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 24, 2015 22:03:20 GMT -5
I agree with shitting on it if it was awful (haven't seen it yet). Cheering rubbish will only encourage more of it.
I do like that everyone admits this half diva half womens wrestler shit isn't any good. Just camps of thought are forming on how best to fix it, and that's where the disagreement is. "It" of course being Vince and this awful holdover diva crap. Bellas need to go IMO but there's much bigger problems backstage that needs to be sorted out first.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Aug 24, 2015 22:04:35 GMT -5
People sure like to blame the Bellas whenever something goes wrong with the Divas.
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Post by LuchaBella on Aug 24, 2015 22:05:41 GMT -5
Vince and Dunn are the problem. They need to gtfo.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 24, 2015 22:07:01 GMT -5
People sure like to blame the Bellas whenever something goes wrong with the Divas. They're the face of the division. Strike that, they're the face of what fans resent about the division.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Aug 24, 2015 22:07:23 GMT -5
I think one of the worst parts of this revolution is the idea that the whole divas roster is a part of it. That should have never been the case.
When the status quo is part of the "revolution", it's not a revolution.
Status quo vs New Blood/Revolution. For there to be a Revolution, there must be a status quo to fight against. And every single person who COULD have represented that (Team Bellas, Authority) believe they are part of the "revolution", if not leading it.
Incompetency and selfishness. Seems like nobody but Miz wanted to be the true villain of the storyline.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Aug 24, 2015 22:10:26 GMT -5
People sure like to blame the Bellas whenever something goes wrong with the Divas. They're the face of the division. Strike that, they're the face of what fans resent about the division. I'm a fan. I don't resent them. They shouldn't have to carry all the weight whenever the fans don't like a match or a segment doesn't go over as expected. People need to realize even their NXT golden girls contribute to the negative things as well.
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Post by Starshine on Aug 24, 2015 22:14:04 GMT -5
I think one of the worst parts of this revolution is the idea that the whole divas roster is a part of it. That should have never been the case. When the status quo is part of the "revolution", it's not a revolution. Status quo vs New Blood/Revolution. For there to be a Revolution, there must be a status quo to fight against. And every single person who COULD have represented that (Team Bellas, Authority) believe they are part of the "revolution", if not leading it. Incompetency and selfishness. Seems like nobody but Miz wanted to be the true villain of the storyline. Also a revolution cannot be instigated by corporate management.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 22:17:38 GMT -5
I think one of the worst parts of this revolution is the idea that the whole divas roster is a part of it. That should have never been the case. When the status quo is part of the "revolution", it's not a revolution. Status quo vs New Blood/Revolution. For there to be a Revolution, there must be a status quo to fight against. And every single person who COULD have represented that (Team Bellas, Authority) believe they are part of the "revolution", if not leading it. Incompetency and selfishness. Seems like nobody but Miz wanted to be the true villain of the storyline. Also a revolution cannot be instigated by corporate management. It's interesting how they (eventually) understood that concept with D. Bryan Danielson.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 24, 2015 22:20:09 GMT -5
They're the face of the division. Strike that, they're the face of what fans resent about the division. I'm a fan. I don't resent them. They shouldn't have to carry all the weight whenever the fans don't like a match or a segment doesn't go over as expected. People need to realize even their NXT golden girls contribute to the negative things as well. You're in the minority then. Fans live and online have resented the diva division for years for a reason. We all know that's simply a fact. It's been the annoying piss break segment of shows for years. Let's be honest, that's the stigma we see and have mostly all said. We're at a strange time though because fans are BEGGING WWE to treat it with more respect and quit having it be that piss break. NXT's women division has made womens wrestling exciting and fans want to see it on a bigger stage. They want to have that equal footing with men. WWE has one foot in the door and one out, it has to make a choice here on which way to take the division.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Aug 24, 2015 22:21:11 GMT -5
Also a revolution cannot be instigated by corporate management. It's interesting how they (eventually) understood that concept with D. Bryan Danielson. It took a massive derailing of the Wrestlemania build to do that. An undertaking I don't think any Diva could muster.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 24, 2015 22:21:18 GMT -5
Seriously, it's done.
The crowd has turned on it hard and nothing has been gained since it started. It's just a F***ing mess that is more of a mess as the weeks go. Its a faction war that's taking away from the actual story of Nikki Bella about to be the longest reining champ. She's been pinned twice in this Clusterf*** and no one addresses it.
It's just a mess of trading wins, nothing gained, no development for anyone. Classic WWE Booking norm for the girls. I feel so bad for HHH having to watch this bullshit happen.
Also. "WE WANT SASHA"
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 24, 2015 22:21:51 GMT -5
That was quite bad.
Their intentions are good, but the execution is shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 22:22:53 GMT -5
Yeah, it's done with.
Take that title off of Nikki and give it to one of the other girls before she hits that milestone to save anything from this "Revolution" because from what I can see is this. Say the Revolution continues to fail (and it will) and Nikki becomes the longest reigning champion. There's nothing the NXT girls can do to overcome that. They need to salvage this thing.
It's done.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 24, 2015 22:23:42 GMT -5
I'm a fan. I don't resent them. They shouldn't have to carry all the weight whenever the fans don't like a match or a segment doesn't go over as expected. People need to realize even their NXT golden girls contribute to the negative things as well. You're in the minority then. Fans live and online have resented the diva division for years for a reason. We all know that's simply a fact. It's been the annoying piss break segment of shows for years. Let's be honest, that's the stigma we see and have mostly all said. We're at a strange time though because fans are BEGGING WWE to treat it with more respect and quit having it be that piss break. NXT's women division has made womens wrestling exciting and fans want to see it on a bigger stage. They want to have that equal footing with men. WWE has one foot in the door and one out, it has to make a choice here on which way to take the division. They gave them 15 minutes tonight and 15 minutes on pay-per-view. How else are they supposed to bring the girls up without having them fight the current divas? and if they just completely job the current divas out to them, then the new divas have no one to wrestle so that gets us nowhere either.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Aug 24, 2015 22:24:13 GMT -5
Cole stressed "one girl" too hard...
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 24, 2015 22:24:15 GMT -5
From what I saw of the Miz TV segment (and yes, I FFed through a bunch of it) it seems that the problem they are already falling into with Charlotte and Becky Lynch is that they're making them the same bitchy WWE diva characters that everyone else is. I dare say what the division needs most is someone like Bayley, who is the most saccharine sweet babyface ever. At least I KNOW I am supposed to cheer her. Everyone else? It's like some reality TV drama queen shades of gray crap.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Aug 24, 2015 22:24:31 GMT -5
I don't know how this angle went from having so much promise to giving us two of the most miserably boring matches of the year 2 days in a row, but it certainly managed something.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 24, 2015 22:24:32 GMT -5
Yeah, it's done with. Take that title off of Nikki and give it to one of the other girls before she hits that milestone to save anything from this "Revolution" because from what I can see is this. Say the Revolution continues to fail (and it will) and Nikki becomes the longest reigning champion. There's nothing the NXT girls can do to overcome that. They need to salvage this thing. It's done. Crowd didn't turn on any other match that night harder than they did that one, shows how badly the care factor and NXT euphoria has worn off. I love Becky, Charlotte, and Sasha, but throwing them in a random Clusterf*** that means nothing isn't the way they should have been brought up...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 22:24:25 GMT -5
I feel like the "The Divas Revolution, You Guys" thread pretty much covers this.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 24, 2015 22:25:31 GMT -5
From what I saw of the Miz TV segment (and yes, I FFed through a bunch of it) it seems that the problem they are already falling into with Charlotte and Becky Lynch is that they're making them the same bitchy WWE diva characters that everyone else is. I dare say what the division needs most is someone like Bayley, who is the most saccharine sweet babyface ever. At least I KNOW I am supposed to cheer her. Everyone else? It's like some reality TV drama queen shades of gray crap. Im scared they'd do that to Bayley too.
There are two levels of gimmick in Divaland. Bitch or Spazztic "Quirky Girl" and neither are tolerable.
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