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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 24, 2015 9:11:35 GMT -5
I invented Suplex City years ago when I was playing WWE video games against my cousin and would just spam the same move after another until I drained all her energy, busted her open and then pinned her. She complained, but I didn't care. I'm just a born winner, like Brock.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Aug 24, 2015 9:21:52 GMT -5
Lesnar is completely f***ing useless. People rode Cena for years for only having 5 moves (bullshit), but love this guy who only seems to have 2. And it's all because they have somehow convinced themselves that he is the baddest man alive, despite an average-at-best MMA career. The dude can't talk, he can't wrestle, and he looks like a Cabbage Patch Kid found 'roids. And to top it all off, he's reckless in the ring. The sooner he f***s off, the better off the world will be. lol Average at best mma career? What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? The dude had a 5-3 record. Name 1 other fighter who gets their dick sucked as much as Lesnar with a f***ing 5-3 record, let alone one who is referred to as "at one time being the best fighter in the world". Sounds like a REALLY brief time. What planet do you live on? It sounds like a place where mediocrity is treated as greatness. |
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Aug 24, 2015 9:30:35 GMT -5
Lesnar is completely f***ing useless. People rode Cena for years for only having 5 moves (bullshit), but love this guy who only seems to have 2. And it's all because they have somehow convinced themselves that he is the baddest man alive, despite an average-at-best MMA career. The dude can't talk, he can't wrestle, and he looks like a Cabbage Patch Kid found 'roids. And to top it all off, he's reckless in the ring. The sooner he f***s off, the better off the world will be. The problem with Cena was that every single match had the same exact story. At least Lesnar can mix it up depending on the opponent, and wrestles infrequently. |
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Post by joeiscool on Aug 24, 2015 9:57:02 GMT -5
lol Average at best mma career? What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? The dude had a 5-3 record. Name 1 other fighter who gets their dick sucked as much as Lesnar with a f***ing 5-3 record, let alone one who is referred to as "at one time being the best fighter in the world". Sounds like a REALLY brief time. What planet do you live on? It sounds like a place where mediocrity is treated as greatness. This would make more sense if he didn't win the UFC heavy weight championship... There are only 18 UFC heavyweight champions ever.. No matter how you slice it that's not average by any meaning you could possibly think of. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 24, 2015 10:20:39 GMT -5
lol Average at best mma career? What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? The dude had a 5-3 record. Name 1 other fighter who gets their dick sucked as much as Lesnar with a f***ing 5-3 record, let alone one who is referred to as "at one time being the best fighter in the world". Sounds like a REALLY brief time. What planet do you live on? It sounds like a place where mediocrity is treated as greatness. I don't think anyone here thinks Brock is the best MMA fighter of all time, or the baddest guy on the planet. However, he is a genetic freak, and an incredible athelte, and despite his overall inexperience he was a good MMA fighter, a great UFC attraction and he won the damn world championship. That's just crazy. He is legit one of, not the, but one of the baddest dudes on the planet. Cain is obviously 'badder'. Still though, Brock won the UFC title despite inexperience and diverticulitus. I think he deffended against Carwin after the first bout of it. Plus you have the whole NCAA champion thing. Plus, he's great at entertainment combined with sports, as in WWE so has been one of the top guys in that field too. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 10:33:06 GMT -5
Lesnar is completely f***ing useless. People rode Cena for years for only having 5 moves (bullshit), but love this guy who only seems to have 2. And it's all because they have somehow convinced themselves that he is the baddest man alive, despite an average-at-best MMA career. The dude can't talk, he can't wrestle, and he looks like a Cabbage Patch Kid found 'roids. And to top it all off, he's reckless in the ring. The sooner he f***s off, the better off the world will be. lol Average at best mma career? What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 24, 2015 10:37:05 GMT -5
lol Average at best mma career? What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. I'd love to see what people were saying online when Lesnar first joined UFC. |
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Aug 24, 2015 11:20:54 GMT -5
So since this is the norm here for him its accepted and mostly well liked......... Is Scott Steiner forgiven for Royal Rumble 2003 where he did basically the same just suplex over and over? I kinda want to re-watch it myself now. Difference between Steiner and Lesnar is that Lesnar suplexing people is part of his character and it's intentionally meant to be repetitive suplexes. Steiner suplexing HHH over and over was only because he was gassed and panicked because he couldn't think of anything else to do, so he kept doing suplexes. Not really. He was a suplex machine in the early 90's with his bro |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 12:03:10 GMT -5
Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. I'd love to see what people were saying online when Lesnar first joined UFC. Nothing good, honestly. I left behind pro wrestling for a few years, and unfortunately became a prototypical "just bleed" tapout MMA douche. I was one of the people saying that he couldn't cut it, and this, and that. I was a poster on Sherdog, the cesspool of the Internet that's not named 4chan. Most couldn't wait for him to get destroyed and get out of their precious sport. A lot of that, I think, came from Brocks' attitude. Most, including myself, didn't realize that the guy was just pulling a pre-Connor McGregor move and was being a heel just to sell the fight. He didn't really win me over until I saw him show some grit in the fight with Carwin. In hindsight, Brock would have undoubtedly have been a bigger monster had he started fresh out of college, instead of going to the WWE. Starting as late as he did, he still impressed, but his striking defense was always underwhelming. Velasquez was a good enough wrestler to neutralize Brock's bread and butter, and therefore left him with nothing to offer him. Overeem is probably the most accomplished striker in the HW division, and when he proved to have the strength to stuff one of Brocks' TD's, the writing was on the wall. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 12:10:01 GMT -5
Suplex City Brock is great. I love how the formula goes out the window. However, Brock vs. Cena 1 and Brock vs. Punk were mold breaking matches as well, but were a lot more entertaining to watch for me.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Aug 24, 2015 12:39:51 GMT -5
It's the old 3-ring circus principle. Lesnar matches are like nothing else in wrestling.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 24, 2015 14:09:24 GMT -5
I LOVE this about him. He's such a subversion of the normal way wrestling works. It's like he has no respect for the very PROCESS of wrestling. "No, I don't do fancy moves. I hurt people." and he does the same stuff over and over. And he shuts down dude's signature spots all the time. Like tonight with the old school. When Undertaker was setting it up I said to my wife "If anyone is going to just yank the Undertaker down from that its going to be Brock" Then whammo. ... a lot of people reverse Old School. |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 24, 2015 14:10:40 GMT -5
I genuinely get goosebumps watching him now. I don't think I can say that about anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 14:23:36 GMT -5
Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. I'd love to see what people were saying online when Lesnar first joined UFC. I do recall some people had the gall to insinuate that wrestling was in fact not a legitimate sporting contest. |
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Aug 24, 2015 14:34:02 GMT -5
It works because he's Brock Lesnar. His aura and persona combined with what he does in the ring make him absolutely unlike anyone else in wrestling right now. You know going into a Lesnar match that you're not going to see a ton of rest holds, overdone spots or many (if any at all) WWE match norms. It really brings a fresh feeling that the company has needed for a while.
It also sort of blends into the kayfabe side too, knowing that his opponents can't study his matches to find a weakness or pick apart his plan. His plan is to suplex you and beat you until can't fight back and then just F5 you for the hell of it.
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Post by joeiscool on Aug 24, 2015 16:36:00 GMT -5
lol Average at best mma career? What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. He was the undisputed champion of the world. I can't drive home the fact that if you are the world champ of the top organization of your sport, you can basically call your self the best. But anyway the biggest point is that his career was by no means average. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 24, 2015 16:46:37 GMT -5
Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. He was the undisputed champion of the world. I can't drive home the fact that if you are the world champ of the top organization of your sport, you can basically call your self the best. But anyway the biggest point is that his career was by no means average. Yeah, basically, he's not the best UFC fighter ever, but he was a damn good UFC fighter and won the wworld title and defended it a few times. Doesn't he have the most UFC titled defenses? Anyway, Brock is LEGIT. There can be no argument on that. Ok, I'm going to try and stop cheerleading Bork like an obsessed fanboy now. |
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Post by rippo on Aug 24, 2015 17:10:57 GMT -5
I get what you mean, totally... but it's over and it's realistic. He beat Cena for the title by doing repeated Germans so realistically, why would he try anything else?
Look at it this way... if you find a plot hole in a video game and you manage to win match after match after abusing it online, why change it?
I'd like the old Brock Lesnar back. The one that wrestled on TV every week and had a bunch of WRESTLING (not MMA) moves. But those days are gone. He's evolved into this MMA beast and we have to accept it.
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Post by joeiscool on Aug 24, 2015 18:53:32 GMT -5
He was the undisputed champion of the world. I can't drive home the fact that if you are the world champ of the top organization of your sport, you can basically call your self the best. But anyway the biggest point is that his career was by no means average. Yeah, basically, he's not the best UFC fighter ever, but he was a damn good UFC fighter and won the wworld title and defended it a few times. Doesn't he have the most UFC titled defenses? Anyway, Brock is LEGIT. There can be no argument on that. Ok, I'm going to try and stop cheerleading Bork like an obsessed fanboy now. Brock Lensar is a bad mother "Shut your mouth" I'm only talking about Brock |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:09:29 GMT -5
Brock was good and he exceeded expectations in the UFC, but he was never "The Best in the World"... he was the heavy weight champ, but the p4p back during his reign was always either Silva or GSP. He had ferocious ground n' pound, and his takedown success rate was insane, but there were a few holes in his game that were exploited to cause his downfall. Not hating on the guy, I genuinely thought he was going to get mauled in the UFC, and he proved me wrong. He was the undisputed champion of the world. I can't drive home the fact that if you are the world champ of the top organization of your sport, you can basically call your self the best. But anyway the biggest point is that his career was by no means average. Respectfully, he was the best in his division, but was never considered anywhere near the best in the world. |
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