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Post by Captain & Diet on Aug 25, 2015 1:35:49 GMT -5
Punch, punch, kick, German, German, German, punch, headbutt, German, German, F5. Or was he always like this? That's why I use the turbo cheat. I win every time.
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Post by Captain & Diet on Aug 25, 2015 1:36:21 GMT -5
I only hate that everything is a city now... So you're from Anti-City City you say? Suplex Township!
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Post by joeiscool on Aug 25, 2015 8:28:24 GMT -5
He was the undisputed champion of the world. I can't drive home the fact that if you are the world champ of the top organization of your sport, you can basically call your self the best. But anyway the biggest point is that his career was by no means average. Respectfully, he was the best in his division, but was never considered anywhere near the best in the world. We are splitting hairs now. He was def the holder of the top title in MMA. It's hard to argue that he was far from the best, because there's not much you can do after that, outside of drop weight and fight for lesser titles. Also lets keep it real, to a lot of MMA snobs he'd never be considered the best despite having the title, and tying the most successful title defenses, because he was a wrestler. The best will always be subjective until there some crazy tournament that features every fighter from the past and present, weight class, ect. But for the most part if he wasn't the top he was def on a short list of the best. But my real point was that his career wasn't average...
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Post by Sam Punk on Aug 25, 2015 9:18:02 GMT -5
Brock brings a big match atmosphere to all his matches. He's probably the biggest draw they have right now.
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Post by gnr123 on Aug 25, 2015 10:12:46 GMT -5
A chore to watch? 90 percent of the roster is a chore to watch. Brock brings a legitimacy and authenticity to his matches and character that no one else has in the WWE. He's obviously the best wrestler in the entire company, bar none. No one comes close. He's there to suplex you until you can't get up, than F5 you to finish you off. He's not there for flashy moves, or indy-wrestling spot-fests, he's there to dominate. Seriously, thank God for Brock Lesnar, because he's probably the only thing that's keeping me interested in this product today.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Aug 28, 2015 0:31:48 GMT -5
A thing I always wondered is this. For most part, the ones wrestling against Brock pretty much try to do the same thing these days; try to match his strength with theirs, or hope for a run-in. To me that seems pretty much like fighting a wall via headbutts, or entering a mauling contest with a bear. He's a great MMA fighter, I think - I'm not knowledgeable to give a definite answer, but he pretty much translates well to wrestling with brutal looking offense. But MMA is MMA, and pro-wrestling is pro-wrestling. The rules are a lot more flexible, and more importantly doesn't matter as long as the ref ain't watching.
So why not a wrestler who actually tries to face him smartly instead of relying on bravado? Force Brock to make mistakes and capitalize on them. Like... get him pissed off enough that he'd be more prone to making even more mistakes. Keep him unbalanced and unable to anticipate what's gonna happen next. Poke him in the eye. Poke him in the other eye. Aim for his knees, then run away out the ring, make him go after you to make him lose stamina. Never try to make direct fight last longer than it should be as he's gonna overpower you with pure strength. Chip away at him, force him to fall into a trap of making one big mistake that'll cost him.
Something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 1:16:52 GMT -5
A chore to watch?
He's had like 4 matches in the last 2 years wha??
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Aug 28, 2015 1:40:09 GMT -5
It works for him. If Cesaro were just doing Euro-cuts or Reigns just Superman punches it would be boring, but Brock spamming moves fits. What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? I assume it's near whatever planet considered Brock the best fighter in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 3:45:23 GMT -5
So why not a wrestler who actually tries to face him smartly instead of relying on bravado? Force Brock to make mistakes and capitalize on them. Like... get him pissed off enough that he'd be more prone to making even more mistakes. Keep him unbalanced and unable to anticipate what's gonna happen next. Poke him in the eye. Poke him in the other eye. Aim for his knees, then run away out the ring, make him go after you to make him lose stamina. Never try to make direct fight last longer than it should be as he's gonna overpower you with pure strength. Chip away at him, force him to fall into a trap of making one big mistake that'll cost him. Outside of the avoiding a direct fight thing, that's pretty much what the Reigns match was.
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Post by joeiscool on Aug 28, 2015 10:15:17 GMT -5
It works for him. If Cesaro were just doing Euro-cuts or Reigns just Superman punches it would be boring, but Brock spamming moves fits. What planet do you live on where at one time being the best fighter in the world is average? I assume it's near whatever planet considered Brock the best fighter in the world. One time he WAS ufc WORLD champ... come on people...
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 28, 2015 10:55:17 GMT -5
I like how he is actively trying to win the match/hurt his opponent instead of "putting on a show"
His decimation of people is his way of putting on a show
I hope it's Lesnar/Sheamus in msg
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 28, 2015 11:02:51 GMT -5
I like how he is actively trying to win the match/hurt his opponent instead of "putting on a show" His decimation of people is his way of putting on a show I hope it's Lesnar/Sheamus in msg That'd be ace.
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Post by KobashiChop on Aug 28, 2015 11:25:50 GMT -5
"Suplex City" can die in a fire. But the Jimmy Johns Suplex-a-thon For The Cure presented by Brock Lesnar never gets old. His Germans being gnarly as f*** certainly helps.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 11:39:15 GMT -5
A thing I always wondered is this. For most part, the ones wrestling against Brock pretty much try to do the same thing these days; try to match his strength with theirs, or hope for a run-in. To me that seems pretty much like fighting a wall via headbutts, or entering a mauling contest with a bear. He's a great MMA fighter, I think - I'm not knowledgeable to give a definite answer, but he pretty much translates well to wrestling with brutal looking offense. But MMA is MMA, and pro-wrestling is pro-wrestling. The rules are a lot more flexible, and more importantly doesn't matter as long as the ref ain't watching. So why not a wrestler who actually tries to face him smartly instead of relying on bravado? Force Brock to make mistakes and capitalize on them. Like... get him pissed off enough that he'd be more prone to making even more mistakes. Keep him unbalanced and unable to anticipate what's gonna happen next. Poke him in the eye. Poke him in the other eye. Aim for his knees, then run away out the ring, make him go after you to make him lose stamina. Never try to make direct fight last longer than it should be as he's gonna overpower you with pure strength. Chip away at him, force him to fall into a trap of making one big mistake that'll cost him. Something like that. That's actually a great idea. The thing is I feel if it actually happened and Lesnar LOST a match (god forbid), this place would explode. Not in a good way, either.
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 28, 2015 11:57:53 GMT -5
A thing I always wondered is this. For most part, the ones wrestling against Brock pretty much try to do the same thing these days; try to match his strength with theirs, or hope for a run-in. To me that seems pretty much like fighting a wall via headbutts, or entering a mauling contest with a bear. He's a great MMA fighter, I think - I'm not knowledgeable to give a definite answer, but he pretty much translates well to wrestling with brutal looking offense. But MMA is MMA, and pro-wrestling is pro-wrestling. The rules are a lot more flexible, and more importantly doesn't matter as long as the ref ain't watching. So why not a wrestler who actually tries to face him smartly instead of relying on bravado? Force Brock to make mistakes and capitalize on them. Like... get him pissed off enough that he'd be more prone to making even more mistakes. Keep him unbalanced and unable to anticipate what's gonna happen next. Poke him in the eye. Poke him in the other eye. Aim for his knees, then run away out the ring, make him go after you to make him lose stamina. Never try to make direct fight last longer than it should be as he's gonna overpower you with pure strength. Chip away at him, force him to fall into a trap of making one big mistake that'll cost him. Something like that. That's actually a great idea. The thing is I feel if it actually happened and Lesnar LOST a match (god forbid), this place would explode. Not in a good way, either. It should have been what they were building to all along, God-Emperor Lesnar being toppled, instead of The Undertaker deciding to get mad about his streak being broken fair and square eight whole years after the fact. I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 28, 2015 12:00:14 GMT -5
A thing I always wondered is this. For most part, the ones wrestling against Brock pretty much try to do the same thing these days; try to match his strength with theirs, or hope for a run-in. To me that seems pretty much like fighting a wall via headbutts, or entering a mauling contest with a bear. He's a great MMA fighter, I think - I'm not knowledgeable to give a definite answer, but he pretty much translates well to wrestling with brutal looking offense. But MMA is MMA, and pro-wrestling is pro-wrestling. The rules are a lot more flexible, and more importantly doesn't matter as long as the ref ain't watching. So why not a wrestler who actually tries to face him smartly instead of relying on bravado? Force Brock to make mistakes and capitalize on them. Like... get him pissed off enough that he'd be more prone to making even more mistakes. Keep him unbalanced and unable to anticipate what's gonna happen next. Poke him in the eye. Poke him in the other eye. Aim for his knees, then run away out the ring, make him go after you to make him lose stamina. Never try to make direct fight last longer than it should be as he's gonna overpower you with pure strength. Chip away at him, force him to fall into a trap of making one big mistake that'll cost him. Something like that. That's actually a great idea. The thing is I feel if it actually happened and Lesnar LOST a match (god forbid), this place would explode. Not in a good way, either. I'm looking forward to him being pinned, but IN ABOUT THREE YEARS at Wrestlemania 34. In his last match, someone like Bryan (but probably not him due to injury), Rollins, Cesaro etc are just too quick for Brock and they outsmart him. He is still horrifically powerful but they catch him and beat him. The moment will be huge. Luckily I don't think the 'loss' to Taker hurt Brock too bad, but he needs to continue his run of dominance until someone is built up enough to take him down in a HUGE moment.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 28, 2015 12:01:16 GMT -5
That's actually a great idea. The thing is I feel if it actually happened and Lesnar LOST a match (god forbid), this place would explode. Not in a good way, either. It should have been what they were building to all along, Overlord-God-Emperor Lesnar being toppled, instead of The Undertaker deciding to get mad about his streak being broken fair and square eight whole years after the fact. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Fixed.
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 28, 2015 12:10:39 GMT -5
I really think if they gave a big push to swagger and talked about his background
Have Zeb be the guy cutting promos. Have heyman and zeb just go at it
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Aug 28, 2015 20:49:41 GMT -5
It works for him. If Cesaro were just doing Euro-cuts or Reigns just Superman punches it would be boring, but Brock spamming moves fits. I assume it's near whatever planet considered Brock the best fighter in the world. One time he WAS ufc WORLD champ... come on people... And he wasn't even considered the best fighter in the company.
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Post by idislikeeverything on Aug 28, 2015 21:07:53 GMT -5
No one said Brock was the best MMA fighter in the world of them all. He was the best heavyweight in MMA. He had the world title in the top company. That makes it a fact, not opinion.
Best in his division, not the sport. Even then, he'd end Anderson Silva and GSP's life too so he likely was the best anyway. It isn't about work rate in MMA, it is results.
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