Triple H is Better Than Vince

[StormanReigns]

In front of the exact same crowd, NXT as a whole got far better reactions than Raw or Summerslam.

NXT as a whole has better stories.

The Divas revolution has no clear faces or heels, while Sasha vs Bayley had a clear story to tell.

What is more impressive, that excluding the women, Triple H is booking a better show with much greener talent.

Triple H is making Chicken Salad out of Chicken crap. While Vince is turning gold into crap.

Personally I think NXT being better just shows how out of touch Vince is. He is literally taking good things Triple H created, and ruining them.

[Madagascar Fred]

Right now HHH just gets it. Of course he's lucky he has the WWE machine behind him to support his ideas

Some compare him/NXT to Heyman/ECW which does have truth to it

All the hyping, motivating his talent, pushing the talented smarkfaves (Benoit,Eddie, Malenko, Storm, RVD, Lynn / Balor, Neville, Zayn, Itami, Joe, Rollins) along with some goofs (911, Pitbulls, Gangstas, Sandman / Corbin, Dana, Eva Marie, Enzo) to keep it even and not too one-sided, emphasizing/delivering on the big events (most NXT specials were way better from an inring standpoint than any ECW PPV/big arena show) and going new routes (violence, sex and controversy / pushing females bigtime, kidfriendly goofy fun gimmicks)

[________ has left the building]

I give it a year before HHH becomes persona non grata again. Triple H is a man of many flaws that people are willing to overlook due to NXT.

[TheFadedSpade]

He needs to learn how to look bad on TV at the expense of the talent. Vince was great at this.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

As of right now but let's not forget he's allowed a freedom in NXT than you can't get on a Raw or Smackdown. HHH is young so he can gauge the pulse of the world better than Vince can at 70 years old.

His true test will come when he takes over in full. However, it can't be understated how important it is he has the respect and support of his "troops" while they are moving up the ladder. Vince used to have that feeling of guys will jump through walls for him and now HHH is getting that same loyalty.

[Deleted]

HHH is being bailed out by some of the best indy workers out there. I love the guy, but he's not a booking genius or anything. He'll be public enemy #1 as soon as Vince/Dunn/Whoever isn't around to take the blame.

[Madagascar Fred]

Aug 27, 2015 15:06:18 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

I give it a year before HHH becomes persona non grata again. Triple H is a man of many flaws that people are willing to overlook due to NXT.

The current NXT system is running since 2012, why should it go downhill now?

[WWEedy]

RAW this past week was the most fun show I've seen in a long time, including anything that's happened on NXT. NXT is a simple hour of wrestling done well, it's not the holy grail in my opinion and there are things that need fixing that I won't delve into here as generally my held opinion is not the concensus.

There is bigger and better, just nothing so consistent. That's what the main shows problem is, finding out how to be consistantly entertaining again. Hopefully Triple H can bring that when he takes over full time.

[Mister Pigwell]

I don't think we can actually even make a comparison until HHH is doing Vince's job at WWE.

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

With the exception of Punk and possibly Miz (?), it seems that the roster is respected and treated better by Hunter more than Vince ever did outside his boys from the bearskin rug.

Again, that's just what we see as outsiders pressing our faces against tinted windows and squinting, so I in no way claim that's a fact.

[4TheGlory]

Vince is the greatest promoter of all time. But in 2015, HHH is wayyyy better at recruitment, show pacing, and production quality. NXT despite being in the exact same arena actually LOOKED like a pro wrestling show. Lighting and non seizure inducing camera swaps does wonders.

[Mayonnaise]

I don't entirely disagree but it is slightly unfair to Vince. He has far more pressure and hundreds of more masters to serve than Hunter. Hunter just has to focus on writing and producing 1 maybe 2 hours of NXT a week (occasionally SD to be fair) while Vince is writing 3 hours of RAW, 2 of Smackdown, possibly a 3 hour PPV, and farming off Makn Event and Superstars to someone, while trying to fit his constraints, please USA, the Canadian station, Sky in the UK and he others, as well as deal with Mattel, 2KSports and everything else that comes with running an international company like this at the same time. Vince being a control freak is a bigger issue than being out of touch. If he gave up a bit of control, than being out of touch wouldn't be too much of an issue, but both together is horrible.

[Push R Truth]

We give far too much blame AND credit to single people in a giant organization.

[Big Poppa Pumpkin]

It's a lot easier to satisfy every demographic of viewer you have without alienating any of them on a niche show like NXT than a show that is as populist as Raw.
Having said that a fresh approach is desperately needed and Trips seems like he knows what he's doing, so I feel pretty optimistic about the future 'A.V. After Vince' era.

[________ has left the building]

Aug 27, 2015 15:11:14 GMT -5 Madagascar Fred said:

Aug 27, 2015 15:06:18 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

I give it a year before HHH becomes persona non grata again. Triple H is a man of many flaws that people are willing to overlook due to NXT.

The current NXT system is running since 2012, why should it go downhill now?

Because everything eventually hits a rough patch. A number of things folks blame Vince and Dunn for Hunter was the person behind it. He is a man of ego like Vince. Once he takes over the kingdom, he will turn into another Vince McMahon. People forget that Vince once had his finger on the pulse. 2 of the biggest moneymaking eras in wrestling history were architect by him. He gave his soul to the company and it in turns consumed it. He still is driven like Ahab to keep WWE number 1. Hunter will go through the same thing and our children and their children if they are wrestling fans will call him an out of touch old man.

[Palmer]

They're booking completely different shows for completely different fanbases. It's like comparing PWG to NJPW. It doesn't work.

Triple H books for the internet. Vince books for the casual fan. The IWC marks are going to be louder than the casual fan who is just attending to have a good time and in a lot of cases, to make their kid happy.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Triple H isn't booking NXT, he's not personally scouting and signing the talent, the most important thing he does for NXT is keep Vince and Kevin Dunn away from it so it can't be brought back in line with the rest of the product.

[Sparkybob]

Aug 27, 2015 15:15:08 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

I don't entirely disagree but it is slightly unfair to Vince. He has far more pressure and hundreds of more masters to serve than Hunter. Hunter just has to focus on writing and producing 1 maybe 2 hours of NXT a week (occasionally SD to be fair) while Vince is writing 3 hours of RAW, 2 of Smackdown, possibly a 3 hour PPV, and farming off Makn Event and Superstars to someone, while trying to fit his constraints, please USA, the Canadian station, Sky in the UK and he others, as well as deal with Mattel, 2KSports and everything else that comes with running an international company like this at the same time. Vince being a control freak is a bigger issue than being out of touch. If he gave up a bit of control, than being out of touch wouldn't be too much of an issue, but both together is horrible.

Indeed. Hunter doesn't have to worry about making sure every PPV venue is sold out monthly, having to deal with trying to get celebrities involved in the program or even as simple as a massive money dispute with a guy with a lot of power in the company.

What Hunter is doing on his own on NXT is like 5% of what Vince does under his watch.

[RedSmile]

I would like to think that HHH will be better at listening to the people around him, but HHH still has a lot to prove to me.

[gr1990]

How much booking does he actually do? Like, I'm sure he picks who wins titles, and what feuds make it onto the Takeover cards, who gets a push... but beyond that, I doubt the ins-and-outs of the storylines and certainly the gimmicks are all that much to do with him. I get the impression that his strength is hiring and listening to the right people, rather than shackling everyone into doing things his way and only valuing the opinion of a handful of yes-men, like Vince has reputedly been prone to do. If someone's good at their job, he trusts them and lets them get on with it.