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Post by moondoggie on Aug 28, 2015 21:46:35 GMT -5
I voted the Hardcore Championship. Sorry, I need more Crash Holly/Mean Street Posse esque segments in my life. Hell yeah Mean Street Posse and Crash Holly made that title!
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 28, 2015 22:24:47 GMT -5
I see the hardcore championship is winning, but who wants to bet those same people who voted will complain because there won't be blood?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 28, 2015 22:28:32 GMT -5
I voted the Hardcore Championship. Sorry, I need more Crash Holly/Mean Street Posse esque segments in my life. Hell yeah Mean Street Posse and Crash Holly made that title! I wouldn't mind the Hardcore Title back, but not really interested in the 24/7 rule. I don't want to see guys having 20 title reigns that total up to five minutes. And the lower card guys who would likely be competing for the title need to make the IWC accept that they know how to wrestle, and they can't really do that through trading six pinfalls a segment at Chuck E Cheese or wherever.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 28, 2015 22:36:04 GMT -5
The issue that titles are no longer prestigious or valid. They're just things guys carry around that WWE feels protects them when they're constantly jobbing. More titles won't change that and, in fact, it will probably make it worse.
What they need to do is put a hierarchy on the belts they have. The WWE title is for the main eventers, the women's title is for the women, the tag titles are for the tag teams, the IC title is for the midcarders that are on the verge of the main event, and the US title is for those who are solidly midcarders and lower-card guys who need an opportunity to show what they can do. You could also put guys who were just called up from NXT in that scene to give them their first exposure to the main roster. That kind of hierarchy will give almost everyone something to do and, maybe even give guys they're big on time to get ready for their main event megapushes. You have 5 hours of TV a week, make the most of them.
Just my idea, though.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Aug 28, 2015 22:40:06 GMT -5
f*** that. Bring in the IWC/IWCA Texarkana Television Championship!
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Post by Hawk Hart on Aug 28, 2015 22:42:27 GMT -5
A TV title with like a ten-fifteen minute time limit would be perfect. One title defense a week in Raw gives a guaranteed title match where it may change hands and it being a midcard title would allow for some really great matches.
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Post by Sam Punk on Aug 29, 2015 0:09:44 GMT -5
The hardcore title would be great now. In the past pretty much every match was a hardcore match. With the pg era, having a separate hardcore division would stand out from the rest of the show.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 29, 2015 0:30:55 GMT -5
The issue that titles are no longer prestigious or valid. They're just things guys carry around that WWE feels protects them when they're constantly jobbing. More titles won't change that and, in fact, it will probably make it worse. What they need to do is put a hierarchy on the belts they have. The WWE title is for the main eventers, the women's title is for the women, the tag titles are for the tag teams, the IC title is for the midcarders that are on the verge of the main event, and the US title is for those who are solidly midcarders and lower-card guys who need an opportunity to show what they can do. You could also put guys who were just called up from NXT in that scene to give them their first exposure to the main roster. That kind of hierarchy will give almost everyone something to do and, maybe even give guys they're big on time to get ready for their main event megapushes. You have 5 hours of TV a week, make the most of them. Just my idea, though. I agree with the hierarchy stuff, but imo it is near impossible to incorporate with the current titles, especially when for about two years the U.S. Title been a prop to give guys main event exposure without having to actually give them a world title. There's no realistic way to put it back in the lower midcard that doesn't make the champion look like a lame duck, so it's best to get rid of it and put a different belt in its place
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Post by sdjonesbackhole on Aug 29, 2015 1:10:49 GMT -5
Yup, this is just en excuse to bring back the women's title. Either they will drop the diva title or have both with the Diva vs the respected Woman's title for who the real champ is. (Charlotte rehashing daddy's gimmick possibly?)
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 29, 2015 1:18:02 GMT -5
Yup, this is just en excuse to bring back the women's title. Either they will drop the diva title or have both with the Diva vs the respected Woman's title for who the real champ is. (Charlotte rehashing daddy's gimmick possibly?)! This idea had never even entered my mind, but now that I see it… I like it so much.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 29, 2015 1:30:28 GMT -5
God I hope they dont' bring back the Women's title belt... because it was really ugly...
and even if the Divas Belt doesn't have the history... with all the shit Moolah was into ... that's a bit of a plus.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 29, 2015 1:33:22 GMT -5
While I love the matches a cruiserweight division would produce, I always worry that they will be seen as beneath the other wrestlers like they were in WCW and to an extent WWE aside from Rey who only broke away as a top guy for a very brief moment. Jericho mentioned in his first book that while he loved working with guys like Malenko and Juvi, he knew there was a stink attached to him because he was a cruiserweight and he was ecstatic to move out of the division and be treated like a heavyweight. I would love for the WWE to push lighter guys like the UFC promotes Conor and GSP who both proved that lighter guys can outdraw the heavyweights. Sadly, they won't and I am just not sure if it is worth it because I see guys like Neville and Balor as being potential main eventers and I want them to be able to have as clear a path as possible to it.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 29, 2015 1:36:47 GMT -5
Hardcore
I always enjoy a nice little hardcore match. Even in PG WWE they're usually fun.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 29, 2015 2:06:46 GMT -5
God I hope they dont' bring back the Women's title belt... because it was really ugly... and even if the Divas Belt doesn't have the history... with all the shit Moolah was into ... that's a bit of a plus. I would just redesign the Divas Title.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 29, 2015 4:08:34 GMT -5
What was wrong with the Women's Title design? I thought it was only second to the REAL Intercontinental Title, design wise.
Hell, it even served as the Intercontinental Title one time at a house show because Jericho left the actual belt in his hotel room.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Aug 29, 2015 4:17:02 GMT -5
Is a title's name and design that important, rather than treating it like a big deal? Call the diva's title the "golden standard" championship with the greatest design possible and it still will get treated like the current divas title...
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Post by ssdrivin on Aug 29, 2015 6:08:50 GMT -5
Voted Womens' title because it's the most likely to actually happen imo, particularly with the Diva push lately. Would like to see the Hardcore title back, as it seems do almost half the voters, but I don't think they'd do it, and if they did they wouldn't/couldn't do it justice, in a sort of Extreme Rules it's-hardcore-look-the-name-says-so way.
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 29, 2015 6:35:04 GMT -5
I went for European because I'm a sucker for that belt design, but I'd be happy with Hardcore. I love the idea of them using it with the Network stuff, so you could have a Network exclusive interview with Renee Young talking to the champ, when someone runs in and pins him halfway through. Make it weave through all the shows, give us a reason to tune in.
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Post by Woo on Aug 29, 2015 6:35:48 GMT -5
The US title should be what the European title was.
I don't like weight based titles at all. Rey Mysterio was fighting for the world title and then goes back to the Cruiserweight division and you're like "why?"
The Hardcore title might be fun, but not with current day WWE/
The Womens Title is the obvious answer, but please get rid of the past links to Moolah's fake championship.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Aug 29, 2015 6:59:25 GMT -5
Have a new title that's a Network Exclusive. Have it defended weekly on a half hour show.
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