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Post by lws on Sept 13, 2015 2:03:51 GMT -5
in your house 3. the night long storyline is that owen hart is missing so jim cornette and yokozuna are looking for tag partners. they cutaway to corny talking to random heels during matches throughout the night. during dean douglas vs. razor ramon, they cut to cornette and yoko talking to mabel (now there's a tag team!). its not anyone on camera, but someone loudly sneezes, twice. it sounds like someone backstage and unmic'd. i imagine its one of vince's least favorite things ever to air on his programming.
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Post by 4real on Sept 13, 2015 4:22:59 GMT -5
WCW seemed to have a habit of sticking two very good wrestlers together on a PPV with no build up whatsoever. Watching Nitro from early 97 and they just announced Eddie Guerrero v Chris Jericho for the U.S. Title at the PPV on Sunday with zero build or interaction.
OK so I'm sure the match will be great but would be nice to have a story going into it.
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Post by LexExpress on Sept 13, 2015 8:16:34 GMT -5
This may be the greatest theme song in the history of our sport. WONDERFUL!
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 13, 2015 10:39:51 GMT -5
Undertaker had some weird ass promos in 1999 He mentioned the crocodile hunter and a lady with Leopard Print pants in the front row I've been looking for that promo about the leopard print pants! Do you know the episode?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 10:57:58 GMT -5
Not only does Sid have half the brain that Kevin Nash does, he also doesn't know shit in the go-home Raw for WM 13.
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 13, 2015 11:54:13 GMT -5
Undertaker had some weird ass promos in 1999 He mentioned the crocodile hunter and a lady with Leopard Print pants in the front row I've been looking for that promo about the leopard print pants! Do you know the episode? I can't remember the number at the moment but I'm pretty sure it was late August To mid September 1999 on raw.
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Post by hbkid718 on Sept 13, 2015 12:29:23 GMT -5
WCW seemed to have a habit of sticking two very good wrestlers together on a PPV with no build up whatsoever. Watching Nitro from early 97 and they just announced Eddie Guerrero v Chris Jericho for the U.S. Title at the PPV on Sunday with zero build or interaction. OK so I'm sure the match will be great but would be nice to have a story going into it. I noticed that too. Watching all of the old Nitros from 1997, there's really no build for any match. They just announce random people getting Title Matches. There are no number 1 contender matches, nobody attacking their opponent, or wrestling them before they get the match.
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Post by 4real on Sept 13, 2015 13:12:42 GMT -5
WCW seemed to have a habit of sticking two very good wrestlers together on a PPV with no build up whatsoever. Watching Nitro from early 97 and they just announced Eddie Guerrero v Chris Jericho for the U.S. Title at the PPV on Sunday with zero build or interaction. OK so I'm sure the match will be great but would be nice to have a story going into it. I noticed that too. Watching all of the old Nitros from 1997, there's really no build for any match. They just announce random people getting Title Matches. There are no number 1 contender matches, nobody attacking their opponent, or wrestling them before they get the match. WCW had such a massive roster it must have been relatively easy for Bischoff to keep things fresh at that point. WWF didn't really have that luxury at this point.
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 13, 2015 13:40:29 GMT -5
I've been looking for that promo about the leopard print pants! Do you know the episode? I can't remember the number at the moment but I'm pretty sure it was late August To mid September 1999 on raw. Thanks-I remember he was teaming with Big Show at the time and it was just a really random reference, but I had a feeling he was t the only one that noticed her
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Post by franchisedavis on Sept 13, 2015 17:59:01 GMT -5
Mr. Wonderful had the shake and bake knee/elbow drop well before the Road Dogg did anything like that.
When he was teaming with Roma for Pretty Wonderful he was pulling it out.
Also WCW had a triangle match set up for Sting vs Guardian vs Vader.
I was genuinely interested in this when I saw it on the PPV.
They get to the match, all 3 men in the ring. And they...do a coin flip. What? Yup, the odd man out got a bye and would wrestle the winner of the first match.
You had a chance to do something fun and innovative and have 2 faces vs a heel and WCW blows it
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Post by lws on Sept 13, 2015 19:17:42 GMT -5
I noticed that too. Watching all of the old Nitros from 1997, there's really no build for any match. They just announce random people getting Title Matches. There are no number 1 contender matches, nobody attacking their opponent, or wrestling them before they get the match. WCW had such a massive roster it must have been relatively easy for Bischoff to keep things fresh at that point. WWF didn't really have that luxury at this point. there was also the issue that WCW gave their wrestlers lots of freedom to wrestle elsewhere, and in turn had talent exchanges with those other places. so they could easily have a random japanese star appear on PPV and it doesn't even really need a build because, an American appearance by a Japanese/Mexican/vaguely foreign star! is enough for tony schiavone to shill it granted, a number one contender's match or process like that wouldn't have hurt them. in all fairness to WCW on that one, 3 way matches barely existed at that point. i think that was fall brawl 1994, and the first american triple threats were late 93/early 94 in smw and ecw. they weren't introduced into the wwf until 1997. i'm not sure about wcw. the earliest i can think of is raven/benoit/ddp from uncensored 98 i think, but i feel like there were probably earlier ones. sting/vader/bossman was the first they came close, but point is, they weren't eschewing the concept, it had never been done in the promotion before. what they did was already fairly innovative.
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Post by hbkid718 on Sept 13, 2015 20:43:27 GMT -5
WCW had such a massive roster it must have been relatively easy for Bischoff to keep things fresh at that point. WWF didn't really have that luxury at this point. there was also the issue that WCW gave their wrestlers lots of freedom to wrestle elsewhere, and in turn had talent exchanges with those other places. so they could easily have a random japanese star appear on PPV and it doesn't even really need a build because, an American appearance by a Japanese/Mexican/vaguely foreign star! is enough for tony schiavone to shill it granted, a number one contender's match or process like that wouldn't have hurt them. in all fairness to WCW on that one, 3 way matches barely existed at that point. i think that was fall brawl 1994, and the first american triple threats were late 93/early 94 in smw and ecw. they weren't introduced into the wwf until 1997. i'm not sure about wcw. the earliest i can think of is raven/benoit/ddp from uncensored 98 i think, but i feel like there were probably earlier ones. sting/vader/bossman was the first they came close, but point is, they weren't eschewing the concept, it had never been done in the promotion before. what they did was already fairly innovative. On April 1, 1996, The Steiner Brothers wrestled The Road Warriors & The Nasty Boys in a Triangle Match on Nitro, On June 24, 1996, Harlem Heat defeated The Steiner Brothers & Lex Luger & Sting in a Triangle Match on Nitro. And then they did a 3-Team Triple Threat Match at World War 3 in 1996 with The Outsiders, The Faces of Fear & The Nasty Boys.
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Post by franchisedavis on Sept 13, 2015 21:49:17 GMT -5
WCW had such a massive roster it must have been relatively easy for Bischoff to keep things fresh at that point. WWF didn't really have that luxury at this point. there was also the issue that WCW gave their wrestlers lots of freedom to wrestle elsewhere, and in turn had talent exchanges with those other places. so they could easily have a random japanese star appear on PPV and it doesn't even really need a build because, an American appearance by a Japanese/Mexican/vaguely foreign star! is enough for tony schiavone to shill it granted, a number one contender's match or process like that wouldn't have hurt them. in all fairness to WCW on that one, 3 way matches barely existed at that point. i think that was fall brawl 1994, and the first american triple threats were late 93/early 94 in smw and ecw. they weren't introduced into the wwf until 1997. i'm not sure about wcw. the earliest i can think of is raven/benoit/ddp from uncensored 98 i think, but i feel like there were probably earlier ones. sting/vader/bossman was the first they came close, but point is, they weren't eschewing the concept, it had never been done in the promotion before. what they did was already fairly innovative. All true. But the real concept of the triangle is what caught my eye and then to see what they had done with it was like "eh" Also the fact that the Vader/Sting match was pretty "eh" too its just too bad they didn't have a true
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Post by lws on Sept 13, 2015 22:03:21 GMT -5
there was also the issue that WCW gave their wrestlers lots of freedom to wrestle elsewhere, and in turn had talent exchanges with those other places. so they could easily have a random japanese star appear on PPV and it doesn't even really need a build because, an American appearance by a Japanese/Mexican/vaguely foreign star! is enough for tony schiavone to shill it granted, a number one contender's match or process like that wouldn't have hurt them. in all fairness to WCW on that one, 3 way matches barely existed at that point. i think that was fall brawl 1994, and the first american triple threats were late 93/early 94 in smw and ecw. they weren't introduced into the wwf until 1997. i'm not sure about wcw. the earliest i can think of is raven/benoit/ddp from uncensored 98 i think, but i feel like there were probably earlier ones. sting/vader/bossman was the first they came close, but point is, they weren't eschewing the concept, it had never been done in the promotion before. what they did was already fairly innovative. On April 1, 1996, The Steiner Brothers wrestled The Road Warriors & The Nasty Boys in a Triangle Match on Nitro, On June 24, 1996, Harlem Heat defeated The Steiner Brothers & Lex Luger & Sting in a Triangle Match on Nitro. And then they did a 3-Team Triple Threat Match at World War 3 in 1996 with The Outsiders, The Faces of Fear & The Nasty Boys. ahh. i knew there was a tag match on a ppv in late 96! i checked bash at the beach thru halloween havoc. one off. and of course i completely forgot about the nitro ones, but whatever. still, point is, two years after 94.
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 14, 2015 15:18:34 GMT -5
Who ever put learnt back in the title, I hate you.
This Chaz beat his girlfriend deal is f***ing stupid. They aren't even telling a good store She shows up with bruises everyone kicks Chaz's ass
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 14, 2015 16:18:50 GMT -5
Good god the Kennel from hell match
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 14, 2015 22:13:56 GMT -5
Good god the Kennel from hell match That match sure pissed me off.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 15, 2015 4:19:42 GMT -5
So, there's this Triple H challenge on Smackdown #5 where HHH has to beat three of his five Unforgiven opponents to stay in the title match.
The second match was Kane vs. Triple H in an Inferno match, and Cole and Michael Hayes sell how important it is for Triple H to win. Why? Because he'd be 0-2 in the series, and would have to win three straight. That's the worst that could have happened there, I suppose.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 15, 2015 4:44:37 GMT -5
The more intriguing thing is, why is your lead heel running a gauntlet series like a plucky underdog babyface?
The answer would walk out the door not long after this.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 15, 2015 5:12:12 GMT -5
The more intriguing thing is, why is your lead heel running a gauntlet series like a plucky underdog babyface? The answer would walk out the door not long after this. I wouldn't say he exactly ran it like a plucky babyface. Chokeslam Challenge with Big Show was an obvious decisive loss. Inferno Match with Kane was won by distraction and interference by Undertaker, Mideon, and Viscera. Boiler Room Brawl was won with someone nailing Mankind as he was trying to dive on HHH. Brahma Bullrope Match had special ref British Bulldog doing the good old fashioned Russo Swerve and getting HHH his third victory. The only one that had HHH doing anything that could be construed as babyface tendencies was the Casket Match with Mideon and Viscera where Shane rules that he has to get both guys in a casket that he could barely get Mideon in. The real sign of Russo (and burnt out Russo at that) is the fact that they ran five gimmick matches in a two hour show, and it's not even the worst abuse of gimmick matches that week. No, that would come on Sunday with the Hell in a Cell (which was a guaranteed money match at this point) being pissed all over by the Kennel from Hell fiasco.
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