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Post by BRV on Sept 13, 2015 19:09:28 GMT -5
So NBC just now (again) waxed poetic about Odell Beckham Jr.'s amazing one-handed touchdown reception against the Cowboys from last season and how it was this transcendent, life-altering catch. And it got me to thinking: is that catch the most overrated play in sports history? Because for my money, it is.
The catch came in the second quarter of a 7-3 game in which the Giants' record was 3-7. The catch ultimately proved meaningless, as the Giants lost the game, 31-28. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not an amazing catch, because it is one of the most incredible football plays I've ever seen. But it's overrated in the sense that in the grand scheme of things, it didn't matter. Overrated in this instance does not mean unimpressive.
So in your eyes, what is the most overrated play in sports?
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 13, 2015 20:24:19 GMT -5
Bobby Orr's Flying celebration. It was OT in game 4 against an expansion team years before they became any good. Hell he was triped up after the fact. If there wasn't that picture it would be a foot note
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Post by BRV on Sept 13, 2015 20:43:05 GMT -5
Bobby Orr's Flying celebration. It was OT in game 4 against an expansion team years before they became any good. Hell he was triped up after the fact. If there wasn't that picture it would be a foot note While it's hard for me to call a play that literally wins a championship "overrated", the Orr goal comes pretty close for all the reasons you mentioned. From my perspective, I've viewed it in the same league as Carlton Fisk's walk-off home run in game six of the 1975 World Series or Kirk Gibson's walk-off against the Athletics in game one of the 1988 World Series. All are hugely important moments in championship series but they were pushed into an otherworldly stratosphere because of the images associated with them. For Orr's goal, it's him flying through the air, celebrating before he even lands. For Fisk, it's waving the ball fair with all the body english he can muster. For Gibson, it's him pumping his fists as he gimps around the bases.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 23:06:26 GMT -5
3 posts in and the Yankee fan has to be the one to point out Jeters dive into the stand?
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Sept 13, 2015 23:42:57 GMT -5
3 posts in and the Yankee fan has to be the one to point out Jeters dive into the stand? You mean Jeter's pop fly and leap 10 feet later into the stands.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 14, 2015 6:52:58 GMT -5
3 posts in and the Yankee fan has to be the one to point out Jeters dive into the stand? One aspect of that night I'll never forget is when the camera cut to Nomar in the dugout. Dude was straight up sulking. Gotta remember that the off-season before this happened was when the Sox were persuing A-Rod and Nomar was mired in contract/trade talks (and was in fact traded just weeks after the above play). I always look at that moment as the moment when the Sox front office knew in their hearts it was time to cut him loose
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 7:01:17 GMT -5
The Catch II
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Sept 14, 2015 11:43:14 GMT -5
Does what happen later really ruin a great play though? I mean all of the ones mentioned may have bene irrelevant later, but it doesn't kill the value of the play itself. Beckham's catch isn't considered iconic, just a recent highlight, it'll fade later. The Catch II is not even talked about much anymore and Orr's goal may have been in a terrible time period in NHL history, but it doesn't diminish how great that moment was.
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Post by Push R Truth on Sept 14, 2015 11:48:41 GMT -5
Yeah, the Beckham catch isn't even the most amazing Giants catch in the last 10 years. That goes to the Helmet Catch in my opinion.
As for my personal over-rated play in sports; The Bartman "Catch". The Cubs didn't lose because of Steve. The Cubs completely fell apart and had multiple issues in that game because they were the @$%^$% Cubs.
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Post by karl100589 on Sept 14, 2015 13:06:33 GMT -5
That bloody Ronnie Radford goal. The only reason Radford hit it so well was because the ball bobbled before it reached him so he struck it on the volley
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2015 13:31:47 GMT -5
New Miracle In The Meadowlands. That play was more about the Giants' special teams' incredible incompetence (especially the horrendous punter Matt Dodge who was cut the next season and hasn't been seen in the NFL since) rather than anything special DeSean Jackson did. The Eagles did go on to win the NFC East, only to be one and done in the Wild Card round, falling to the Packers.
As for the OBJ catch, it was more an impressive show of athletic skill by a very talented and capable rookie receiver than anything that had any impact on a game. I don't think it ever got hyped as a game- or season-defining play so much as it was the capstone of Beckham's Offensive Rookie Of The Year season, in spite of missing the first four games.
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on Sept 14, 2015 13:58:26 GMT -5
New Miracle In The Meadowlands. That play was more about the Giants' special teams' incredible incompetence (especially the horrendous punter Matt Dodge who was cut the next season and hasn't been seen in the NFL since) rather than anything special DeSean Jackson did. The Eagles did go on to win the NFC East, only to be one and done in the Wild Card round, falling to the Packers. As for the OBJ catch, it was more an impressive show of athletic skill by a very talented and capable rookie receiver than anything that had any impact on a game. I don't think it ever got hyped as a game- or season-defining play so much as it was the capstone of Beckham's Offensive Rookie Of The Year season, in spite of missing the first four games. You're a Giants fan aren't you?
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2015 14:14:43 GMT -5
How'd you guess?
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Sept 14, 2015 15:32:34 GMT -5
Yeah, the Beckham catch isn't even the most amazing Giants catch in the last 10 years. That goes to the Helmet Catch in my opinion. Tyree's Helmet Catch was part of the game-winning drive, but it wasn't the game-winning TD (compared to Santonio Holmes's sideline grab a year later). It's more akin to Lynn Swann's "Swann Dive" in SB10.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 16:22:10 GMT -5
New Miracle In The Meadowlands. That play was more about the Giants' special teams' incredible incompetence (especially the horrendous punter Matt Dodge who was cut the next season and hasn't been seen in the NFL since) rather than anything special DeSean Jackson did. The Eagles did go on to win the NFC East, only to be one and done in the Wild Card round, falling to the Packers. While the original Miracle at the Meadowlands was about one play, the New one is really the fact that the Eagles scored 28 points in such a short amount of time to win it. The Jackson TD gets the most recognition because it was the game-winner.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 14, 2015 21:45:14 GMT -5
Yeah, the Beckham catch isn't even the most amazing Giants catch in the last 10 years. That goes to the Helmet Catch in my opinion. As for my personal over-rated play in sports; The Bartman "Catch". The Cubs didn't lose because of Steve. The Cubs completely fell apart and had multiple issues in that game because they were the @$%^$% Cubs. That whole incident and it's aftermath makes my blood boil. An entire fanbase throwing a temper tantrum because some guy with headphones in the front row somehow cost them a world series opportunity and not, you know, giving up 8 runs in one inning and losing the next game to get eliminated. It also showed what a petulant child Moises Alou is.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 16, 2015 15:46:31 GMT -5
Wayne Rooney's overhead kick.
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Post by Giul T. on Sept 16, 2015 16:00:07 GMT -5
I thought this thread would be like "The Screen" rather than a Moment in history.
Probably Bill Buckner's mishandling, IMO. Luckily Boston won something again.
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Post by The_Don_Mecha on Sept 16, 2015 20:02:57 GMT -5
The pre-halftime draw.
On a more serious note, those Blake Griffin dunks over Pau Gasol. Both were clearly offensive fouls (and spectacular dunks for highlight reels).
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Post by Nickybojelais on Sept 16, 2015 21:39:17 GMT -5
Lawrie Sanchez's goal for Wimbledon in the 1988 FA Cup Final against Liverpool. It's heralded as one of the greatest underdog wins in FA Cup history, yet everyone seems to forget that Wimbledon actually finished 7th in the First Division that season. I know Liverpool were a great side, but it's not as if Wimbledon were a bunch of amateur no hopers. That bloody Ronnie Radford goal. The only reason Radford hit it so well was because the ball bobbled before it reached him so he struck it on the volley I love everything about that goal, the pitch, the conditions, the huge underdog win and the pitch invasion following the goal.
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