How Much Did TNA Waste to Rent Out the Manhattan Center?

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

This is one thing I've always been curious about, but can't find the answer to.

[snugglecakes]

$100,000 a night per the Observer, although that was last year. May be slightly less if you book multiple shows back to back.

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Sept 18, 2015 14:21:12 GMT -5 snugglecakes said:

$100,000 a night per the Observer, although that was last year. May be slightly less if you book multiple shows back to back.

Dang! Any idea what WWF and MlW paid to rent it out for comparison? IIRC didn't the WWF used to use it for Raw partly because it was so cheap?

Of course things change and hardly anything is cheap in Manhattan these days.

[snugglecakes]

Sept 18, 2015 15:19:35 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Sept 18, 2015 14:21:12 GMT -5 snugglecakes said:

$100,000 a night per the Observer, although that was last year. May be slightly less if you book multiple shows back to back.

Dang! Any idea what WWF and MlW paid to rent it out for comparison? IIRC didn't the WWF used to use it for Raw partly because it was so cheap?

Of course things change and hardly anything is cheap in Manhattan these days.

Not sure, although the price when Raw started was probably a lot less.

Also, keep in mind the $100k per night was just the rental cost. It doesn't take into account taping, production or talent flown in (insert late cheques joke here).

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

That was stupid. Jim Ross said that it's tough to make money in New York because of the labor costs amongst other things. That the wwe pretty much broke even at times. If the wwe has troubles making a profit there, Dixie was a f***ing moron for thinking that she was gonna make money there.

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Sept 18, 2015 15:19:35 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Dang! Any idea what WWF and MlW paid to rent it out for comparison? IIRC didn't the WWF used to use it for Raw partly because it was so cheap?

Of course things change and hardly anything is cheap in Manhattan these days.

IIRC, on the MLW podcast Court said the cost of renting the Hammerstein Ballroom went from $30,000 to $100,000. That's Hammerstein, not the Grand Ballroom which I believe is what TNA ran when they were there and what WWE ran back in the day. But considering it's two rooms in the same building, I'm going to guess there was a similar jump in price.

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Sept 18, 2015 16:20:39 GMT -5 snugglecakes said:

Sept 18, 2015 15:19:35 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Dang! Any idea what WWF and MlW paid to rent it out for comparison? IIRC didn't the WWF used to use it for Raw partly because it was so cheap?

Of course things change and hardly anything is cheap in Manhattan these days.

Not sure, although the price when Raw started was probably a lot less.

Also, keep in mind the $100k per night was just the rental cost. It doesn't take into account taping, production or talent flown in (insert late cheques joke here).

Not to mention the thousands of dollars in cardboard and paper needed to cover up all the empty seats.

[Magnus the Magnificent]

Sept 18, 2015 18:15:16 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

That was stupid. Jim Ross said that it's tough to make money in New York because of the labor costs amongst other things. That the wwe pretty much broke even at times. If the wwe has troubles making a profit there, Dixie was a f***ing moron for thinking that she was gonna make money there.

It was probably a misguided (as if she does any other) attempt of "sticking it" to WWE.

[BlackoutCreature]

While I do want to say it was probably stupid for TNA to run these shows at such a big money loss, the fact is doing shows in the Manhattan Center at the very least guaranteed them a very hot, mostly full crowd (despite their claims though I really doubt these shows were sold out). While they could have gotten a much cheaper place to tape shows in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania, they would've been lucky to draw 100 people who sit on their hands all night. TNA probably considered looking good on TV something more important then simply making money at a time when they were trying to either renew their TV deal with Spike or find a new network to air on.

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