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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 26, 2015 20:03:24 GMT -5
"...trashed my own house party 'cause nobody came"
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 26, 2015 21:18:04 GMT -5
I can understand the logistics of going to tour overseas being tough enough to sink a tour, but ELMIRA?! To be fair I can tell you where the U.K. and India, I can't tell you where in the backwoods Elmira is and I live in Nebraska. I can reach Elmira by bus! They couldn't even reach it by sheer force of will!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 26, 2015 22:09:01 GMT -5
To be fair I can tell you where the U.K. and India, I can't tell you where in the backwoods Elmira is and I live in Nebraska. I can reach Elmira by bus! They couldn't even reach it by sheer force of will! Yeah, Elmira is only 4 hours away from New York City. It's not really the backwoods... hell it's not even what I would consider the Backwoods of New York State... or even the most middle of nowhere of the state...
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 27, 2015 0:43:03 GMT -5
How is tna not considered an indy yet? They haven't taped or worked a show in months now. There are independent shows that work more shows than TNA.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 27, 2015 2:07:00 GMT -5
How is tna not considered an indy yet? They haven't taped or worked a show in months now. There are independent shows that work more shows than TNA. In the purest sense of the word, TNA cannot be independent because it's owned and sustained by Panda Energy.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 27, 2015 2:24:08 GMT -5
How is tna not considered an indy yet? They haven't taped or worked a show in months now. There are independent shows that work more shows than TNA. In the purest sense of the word, TNA cannot be independent because it's owned and sustained by Panda Energy. You're right it is also a nationally televised company that isn't profitable. One could make a case that even CZW is better run than TNA. CZW has better live events and actually a DVD market. Going back to India, weren't the semi finals supposed to be taped there? Well at least dipshit shera's push is postponed.
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Post by docwallace on Nov 27, 2015 4:50:43 GMT -5
So, do SOny Six have any legal comeback over this tour being postponed? I would imagine it would make them less keen to work with TNA in future, which is really not what you want right now. I know they're citing the terrorist implications, but I believe that as much as I did for Wrestlemania IX. It was wrestlemania VII aka the one that moved from the coliseum to the sports arena because of tickets not selling fast enough and "Security concerns" due to a turncoat for a WWF Champion That's the one, for some reason I always think that's nine - I have a blind spot for it. Just moved across the road practically, didn't it? As for the UK tour, if that doesn't go ahead I'll be shocked, although the Glasgow event last year did not sell well despite what they claimed, which is why they aren't bothering this time. Because the UK TV deal is free to air, our adverts have been more along the lines of 'buy a ticket and get yourself over on TV', rather than the action per se.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 27, 2015 5:16:55 GMT -5
If the story I read was true, Sony Six pretty much paid for everything for the tour including the paid house shows that suppose to have free admittance. All TNA had to do was just show up and perform. I guess TNA doesn't feel desperate anymore with yet another temporary lifeline so no need to back Shera and pander to India. The problem is TNA is contracted to do the show so no matter if it's in January 2016 or 2017, they got to do the tour. If not, hold TNA got lawyers who know Indian law.
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 27, 2015 7:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 27, 2015 21:12:14 GMT -5
Dixie Carter: "How hard can it be for us to get to India?" *Points to map* Dixie Carter: "See? It's right there, next to Ohio. This shouldn't be that difficult." I get this Save by the Bell Ms. Colepepper when I read this. Niagara is here. Next to Las Vegas!?!?!
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 30, 2015 19:16:42 GMT -5
Going back to India, weren't the semi finals supposed to be taped there? Well at least dipshit shera's push is postponed. And that right there is why I don't think they ever had a real plan to go to India. I was catching up on some podcasts and things today when this tournament was brought up and people wondered what they would do now that the India tour and the next bit of the tournament seems to have been canceled/postponed. That is when it hit me they never planned on going unless they were royally f***ed and even then I am not sure they would have gone through with it. When news of this title tournament broke, people went back to the spoilers and were able to piece together the entire thing. There was zero chance of TNA letting that go to waste with the crunch they are in. TNA probably got a nice, non-refundable advance on the tour and just needed a good excuse to cancel.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 30, 2015 19:21:48 GMT -5
That's so TNA
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Post by chrom on Nov 30, 2015 19:29:52 GMT -5
Going back to India, weren't the semi finals supposed to be taped there? Well at least dipshit shera's push is postponed. And that right there is why I don't think they ever had a real plan to go to India. I was catching up on some podcasts and things today when this tournament was brought up and people wondered what they would do now that the India tour and the next bit of the tournament seems to have been canceled/postponed. That is when it hit me they never planned on going unless they were royally f***ed and even then I am not sure they would have gone through with it. When news of this title tournament broke, people went back to the spoilers and were able to piece together the entire thing. There was zero chance of TNA letting that go to waste with the crunch they are in. TNA probably got a nice, non-refundable advance on the tour and just needed a good excuse to cancel. From what I've heard, they are contractally bound to do the shows in India as Sony Six handled the arenas and buildings they were to do it in and promoted the tour. If they don't do it, Sony Six can slap them with a lawsuit right up their asses.
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Post by moondoggie on Nov 30, 2015 23:29:38 GMT -5
And that right there is why I don't think they ever had a real plan to go to India. I was catching up on some podcasts and things today when this tournament was brought up and people wondered what they would do now that the India tour and the next bit of the tournament seems to have been canceled/postponed. That is when it hit me they never planned on going unless they were royally f***ed and even then I am not sure they would have gone through with it. When news of this title tournament broke, people went back to the spoilers and were able to piece together the entire thing. There was zero chance of TNA letting that go to waste with the crunch they are in. TNA probably got a nice, non-refundable advance on the tour and just needed a good excuse to cancel. From what I've heard, they are contractally bound to do the shows in India as Sony Six handled the arenas and buildings they were to do it in and promoted the tour. If they don't do it, Sony Six can slap them with a lawsuit right up their asses. TNA...You dun F**ked Up
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 30, 2015 23:36:59 GMT -5
And that right there is why I don't think they ever had a real plan to go to India. I was catching up on some podcasts and things today when this tournament was brought up and people wondered what they would do now that the India tour and the next bit of the tournament seems to have been canceled/postponed. That is when it hit me they never planned on going unless they were royally f***ed and even then I am not sure they would have gone through with it. When news of this title tournament broke, people went back to the spoilers and were able to piece together the entire thing. There was zero chance of TNA letting that go to waste with the crunch they are in. TNA probably got a nice, non-refundable advance on the tour and just needed a good excuse to cancel. From what I've heard, they are contractally bound to do the shows in India as Sony Six handled the arenas and buildings they were to do it in and promoted the tour. If they don't do it, Sony Six can slap them with a lawsuit right up their asses. I honestly do not think the braintrust in Nashville cares, especially if they got a deposit or advance. These aren't honest, good business people we're talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 0:40:01 GMT -5
I think on both the Sony Six thing and the whole issue of not paying people / firing them for asking about their paychecks, TNA's basically counting on being dead soon and recognize they aren't too likely to still be alive by the time any sort of litigation would go through.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 1, 2015 3:13:18 GMT -5
And that right there is why I don't think they ever had a real plan to go to India. I was catching up on some podcasts and things today when this tournament was brought up and people wondered what they would do now that the India tour and the next bit of the tournament seems to have been canceled/postponed. That is when it hit me they never planned on going unless they were royally f***ed and even then I am not sure they would have gone through with it. When news of this title tournament broke, people went back to the spoilers and were able to piece together the entire thing. There was zero chance of TNA letting that go to waste with the crunch they are in. TNA probably got a nice, non-refundable advance on the tour and just needed a good excuse to cancel. From what I've heard, they are contractally bound to do the shows in India as Sony Six handled the arenas and buildings they were to do it in and promoted the tour. If they don't do it, Sony Six can slap them with a lawsuit right up their asses. They're contractually bound to "tour India once a year". There's no "if they don't do it" because they aren't "refusing" to do the shows so much as rescheduling them to a later date. Focus on their thing with Pop first and then if and when they do shows in India, they can do it without feeling obligated to push Shera or building the company around him, which they shouldn't because dude sucks ass.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 6, 2015 23:01:21 GMT -5
So basically... {Spoiler}The TNA World Heavyweight Championship match they're trying to build between Hardy and Ethan isn't happening. Meaning all this push go to a Lashley reign.
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Post by Aya Reiko on Dec 7, 2015 4:15:08 GMT -5
From what I've heard, they are contractally bound to do the shows in India as Sony Six handled the arenas and buildings they were to do it in and promoted the tour. If they don't do it, Sony Six can slap them with a lawsuit right up their asses. I honestly do not think the braintrust in Nashville cares, especially if they got a deposit or advance. These aren't honest, good business people we're talking about. I think they're looking for one last paycheck to cash in before it all inevitably collapses (likely when the POP gravy train ends up not even being a trickle).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 9:37:15 GMT -5
So basically... The TNA World Heavyweight Championship match they're trying to build between Hardy and Ethan isn't happening. Meaning all this push go to a Lashley reign. This is easily one of the most TNA ways to solving storyline problems; just forget about them and do something in an attempt to curry ratings on a moment's notice.
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