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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 17:15:38 GMT -5
They obviously knew he was going to be a big deal, but was it planned for him to get the WWE title so soon or did he just impress them so much they said screw it let's give him the ball? What was the NEWZ back then?
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 30, 2015 17:59:36 GMT -5
I can't imagine this being the initial plan. WWE was booking on the fly so much in 2002 trying to get anything to stick. The title went from HHH at WM, to Hogan, to Taker, to Rock, to Brock all in the span of the WM to SS time period. The fateful Raw where Austin walked out and everything was thrown out the window was probably the initial thought to push Lesnar to the title.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 30, 2015 18:37:41 GMT -5
The title went from HHH at WM, to Hogan, to Taker, to Rock, to Brock all in the span of the WM to SS time period. That's crazy when you write it down like that... If you also add Jericho before Triple H, and Big Show and Angle after Lesnar, there were EIGHT unique WWF/WWE Champions in 2002 alone. In contrast, we've had TWO in the last year (Lesnar and Rollins), and only one of them shows up to work on the reg. One has to wonder whether the belt could actually use some hot potatoing at the moment, if only to spice things up and at least possibly get that accolade onto a few new resumes (like Reigns or Ambrose).
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 30, 2015 18:46:46 GMT -5
It was such a strange time: HHH was getting the belt via his comeback. Hogan got it as a thank you due to the fans not booing him. Taker got it via his heel run Rock got it to give Brock the Rub.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 30, 2015 19:58:31 GMT -5
That's crazy when you write it down like that... If you also add Jericho before Triple H, and Big Show and Angle after Lesnar, there were EIGHT unique WWF/WWE Champions in 2002 alone. In contrast, we've had TWO in the last year (Lesnar and Rollins), and only one of them shows up to work on the reg. To be fair, I thought they were trying to establish the Undisputed title as a brand new lineage and they wanted to get their big names a run with it right away.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 30, 2015 20:08:55 GMT -5
He was getting paid a ridiculous amount of money while still in developmental (and keep in mind this wasn't "third touring brand" developmental. This was "you should feel honored to be here so shut your mouth" developmental) so yeah, probably.
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Post by StormanReigns on Sept 30, 2015 20:27:13 GMT -5
The title flipped 7 times that year, 4 before it even got to Brock.
Y2J to HHH HHH to Hogan Hogan to Taker Taker to Rock Rock to Lesnar Lesnar to Big Show Show to Angle
On 2nd thought, what the hell was Vince's deal? Most of those were just one month reigns.
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Post by ICBM on Sept 30, 2015 20:34:00 GMT -5
Hogan got it as a thank you due to the fans not booing him. I remember this all quite well. Not only were fans not booing Hogan, they unexpectedly popped for twenty minutes at a time everywhere he went despite him being heel. Be fair man. I know people have a bad taste in their mouths about Hogan, but the crowd decided what to do what th him. As I understand it, the plan was to milk the NWO for the spring and summer with Hogan in it. The crowd determined he should turn baby face. HHH was supposed to run with it for a bit. Hogan could simply not be ignored and it's unfair in my opinion, to dismiss his efforts and his talent by saying they didn't boo him, when that belies what an overwhelming reaction he was getting. I have watched wrestling continuously since about 1983 and I have never heard so many sustained, organic pops. They were greater than Road Warrior pops. As for the topic, yes. I think he , like Hogan benefited from th crowd as plans changed. Rock did the right thing on his way out. I still don't know if he was ready but they drew money with him. So if it wasn't the plan, it still worked out retry well.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 30, 2015 23:57:53 GMT -5
The title flipped 7 times that year, 4 before it even got to Brock. Y2J to HHH HHH to Hogan Hogan to Taker Taker to Rock Rock to Lesnar Lesnar to Big Show Show to Angle On 2nd thought, what the hell was Vince's deal? Most of those were just one month reigns. Bi polar ratings and attendance throughout the beginning of 2002. Everything really sunk after SummerSlam.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 1, 2015 0:04:57 GMT -5
The title went from HHH at WM, to Hogan, to Taker, to Rock, to Brock all in the span of the WM to SS time period. That's crazy when you write it down like that... If you also add Jericho before Triple H, and Big Show and Angle after Lesnar, there were EIGHT unique WWF/WWE Champions in 2002 alone. In contrast, we've had TWO in the last year (Lesnar and Rollins), and only one of them shows up to work on the reg. One has to wonder whether the belt could actually use some hot potatoing at the moment, if only to spice things up and at least possibly get that accolade onto a few new resumes (like Reigns or Ambrose). Yeah hot potato to Cena to Seamus to.Cena to Orton and finally to HHH
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 1, 2015 0:44:05 GMT -5
Hogan got it as a thank you due to the fans not booing him. I remember this all quite well. Not only were fans not booing Hogan, they unexpectedly popped for twenty minutes at a time everywhere he went despite him being heel. Be fair man. I know people have a bad taste in their mouths about Hogan, but the crowd decided what to do what th him. As I understand it, the plan was to milk the NWO for the spring and summer with Hogan in it. The crowd determined he should turn baby face. HHH was supposed to run with it for a bit. Hogan could simply not be ignored and it's unfair in my opinion, to dismiss his efforts and his talent by saying they didn't boo him, when that belies what an overwhelming reaction he was getting. I have watched wrestling continuously since about 1983 and I have never heard so many sustained, organic pops. Bingo.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Oct 1, 2015 5:10:26 GMT -5
They obviously knew he was going to be a big deal, but was it planned for him to get the WWE title so soon or did he just impress them so much they said screw it let's give him the ball? What was the NEWZ back then? In many ways he was the Alberto Del Rio of his generation.
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Post by Juice on Oct 1, 2015 5:55:24 GMT -5
Brock came in with demands. He only signed if Shelton was hired too
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 6:16:17 GMT -5
Triple H didn't want to work Tuesdays.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 1, 2015 6:21:44 GMT -5
Yeah hot potato to Cena to Seamus to.Cena to Orton and finally to HHH I know you and I have had our differences, but if you have a shred of decency and you care at all about my mental well-being, you'll delete this right now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 6:56:32 GMT -5
They obviously knew he was going to be a big deal, but was it planned for him to get the WWE title so soon or did he just impress them so much they said screw it let's give him the ball? What was the NEWZ back then? In many ways he was the Alberto Del Rio of his generation. Yet the exact opposite.
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Post by tms on Oct 1, 2015 10:49:06 GMT -5
In many ways he was the Alberto Del Rio of his generation. Yet the exact opposite. Brock vs Sheamus would actually be a damn good matchup. At least for the first 3 times.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Oct 1, 2015 12:04:17 GMT -5
The title flipped 7 times that year, 4 before it even got to Brock. Y2J to HHH HHH to Hogan Hogan to Taker Taker to Rock Rock to Lesnar Lesnar to Big Show Show to Angle On 2nd thought, what the hell was Vince's deal? Most of those were just one month reigns. Bi polar ratings and attendance throughout the beginning of 2002. Everything really sunk after SummerSlam. "Respect my bipolar disorder dammit!!!! Also them grapefruits down here!!!"
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 1, 2015 12:08:23 GMT -5
Yes. Is this even up for debate? I thought this was common knowledge.
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Post by foxylady79 on Oct 3, 2015 15:21:26 GMT -5
I personally rejected his super push because I felt he was forced down our throats and I got sick of WWE telling us how great he was. You mean just like now, except he managed to perform more than a suplex and F5 back then?
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