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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Oct 3, 2015 14:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 3, 2015 14:10:50 GMT -5
I think he wanted to sign them, but never could until Kerry in 1990. Maybe this was a way to sweeten the pot? Either way he did seem to have a soft spot for the family, he signed Kerry past his prime, and in his SNME debut, while they did establish the "Texas Tornado" character, Vince on commentary did mention the Von Erich family.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Oct 3, 2015 14:38:02 GMT -5
He definitely looked to them and Snuka as a back-up plan.
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Post by Old Baby on Oct 3, 2015 14:44:48 GMT -5
I remember seeing Kevin wrestling for them in MSG in the early half of the 80's.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 20:24:55 GMT -5
Vince wanted to work together with Fritz but couldn't come to a deal. He saw big money in Kerry
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 21:05:26 GMT -5
Didn't he want to sign David as well? I could see David and Kevin as a tag team to start and Kerry as getting a huge push. Though the personal demons probably would have ended the run pretty quickly.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 21:06:09 GMT -5
He wanted all 3
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 3, 2015 21:53:59 GMT -5
Vince wanted to work together with Fritz but couldn't come to a deal. Pretty much this. Vince also reported (or allowed his magazine to report) Kerry's NWA title win and David's passing. Sent a couple of his guys (Steamboat was one, I forget the other) to work a show or two for World Class. Things just didn't pan out. It wasn't just wanting the Von Erich boys, though, Vince was eyeing other things like World Class' production team, who at the time had one of the most state of the art production value teams in the business. He was also having horrible luck promoting his own shows in Texas - one he held around the beginning of his expansion into Texas drew something like 500 (I think, definitely less than a thousand). He needed some homegrown back up to break in (which he eventually got from Paul Boesch). |
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 3, 2015 21:59:41 GMT -5
Most people don't how great the production crew WCCW had. And NBC taught WWE alot of stuff with their SNME shows
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Oct 4, 2015 13:06:49 GMT -5
Why people saw kerry as the break out star? he has the looks but his promo are HORRIBLE, in the other hand David wasn't as handsome but he was more of a total package imo
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 4, 2015 17:45:27 GMT -5
Why people saw kerry as the break out star? he has the looks but his promo are HORRIBLE, in the other hand David wasn't as handsome but he was more of a total package imo Gotta remember that at the time, promo skills weren't really "part of the package" - the only ones that really had them were the colorful heels (and Dusty); the good guys were supposed to be no-nonsense "I'm going to beat that guy" types. They weren't expected to cut elaborate promos. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 17:47:59 GMT -5
Also interesting, Championship Wrestling from Florida was the only territory to acknowledge Hogan winning the WWF title belt on their television show. Vince also let Andre work a few six man tags for Fritz in 84 I believe.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Oct 4, 2015 21:43:52 GMT -5
Kerry was too "aww shucks" and it wouldn't work today but he had a great natural charisma about him and the body of a greek god. too bad he couldn't keep his head on straight.
David was painfully underrated IMO, worked heel in Florida and had more of a knack for the mic, good wrestler too,
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Post by turkeysandwich on Oct 4, 2015 22:24:08 GMT -5
Gotta love the breaking news that Sal Bellomo builds paper ships.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 5, 2015 4:45:12 GMT -5
Yeah when you look at the early 80's you cant say many people had good promo skills, there was just a handful that sounded intelligible. The rest always felt like they were reading slowly off a cue card.
Kerry definatley had the top star look that Vince could have worked with. Personally I was only used to his WWF work as the Texas Tornado and when I began watching he was going through a depush, so he didnt seem a big deal to me at all until I researched when I was older. If you told me in 1992 how big Kerry Von Erich was elsewhere, I wouldnt have believed you.
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Post by ICBM on Oct 5, 2015 7:31:59 GMT -5
Yeah when you look at the early 80's you cant say many people had good promo skills, there was just a handful that sounded intelligible. The rest always felt like they were reading slowly off a cue card. Kerry definatley had the top star look that Vince could have worked with. Personally I was only used to his WWF work as the Texas Tornado and when I began watching he was going through a depush, so he didnt seem a big deal to me at all until I researched when I was older. If you told me in 1992 how big Kerry Von Erich was elsewhere, I wouldnt have believed you. I was introduced to wrestling via the world class shows on local tv. So by the time Kerry went to WWF in my eyes he was on Hogan's, Sting's or Flair's level...I was incorrect but that just illustrates how regional wrestling still was. You had never thought much about him meanwhile I thought he was a legend. We were both sold or not sold a different thing bc of what was pushed in our region |
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Post by paperbackhero on Oct 5, 2015 8:04:12 GMT -5
Yeah when you look at the early 80's you cant say many people had good promo skills, there was just a handful that sounded intelligible. The rest always felt like they were reading slowly off a cue card. Kerry definatley had the top star look that Vince could have worked with. Personally I was only used to his WWF work as the Texas Tornado and when I began watching he was going through a depush, so he didnt seem a big deal to me at all until I researched when I was older. If you told me in 1992 how big Kerry Von Erich was elsewhere, I wouldnt have believed you. I was introduced to wrestling via the world class shows on local tv. So by the time Kerry went to WWF in my eyes he was on Hogan's, Sting's or Flair's level...I was incorrect but that just illustrates how regional wrestling still was. You had never thought much about him meanwhile I thought he was a legend. We were both sold or not sold a different thing bc of what was pushed in our region I dont think you were incorrect about Kerry being on Sting's level. Heck, I'd argue that he could have been bigger than Sting ever was. In 84 and 85 he adorned every national wrestling mag, about the same as the Road Warriors and Hogan. |
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Post by Old Baby on Oct 5, 2015 11:54:40 GMT -5
I was introduced to wrestling via the world class shows on local tv. So by the time Kerry went to WWF in my eyes he was on Hogan's, Sting's or Flair's level...I was incorrect but that just illustrates how regional wrestling still was. You had never thought much about him meanwhile I thought he was a legend. We were both sold or not sold a different thing bc of what was pushed in our region I dont think you were incorrect about Kerry being on Sting's level. Heck, I'd argue that he could have been bigger than Sting ever was. In 84 and 85 he adorned every national wrestling mag, about the same as the Road Warriors and Hogan. In the early half of the 80's, I think Kerry could have been as big as Sting, but by the late 80's Hogan had changed what people were looking for in a top tier babyface. It was all about being flashy and loud, and Sting was both of these things. Kerry was more like Bob Backlund or Magnum TA, who were at the top of their era but didn't have the ingredients to hang with the Hogans, Stings, Flairs and Warriors in the late 80's. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 5, 2015 15:39:26 GMT -5
Gotta love the breaking news that Sal Bellomo builds paper ships. WWF did some weird stuff regarding Bellomo. I remember in 1985 or '86, their magazine featured a one or two-page article on him taking part in a spaghetti-eating contest, with pictures from the event and everything. |
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Post by ICBM on Oct 6, 2015 18:00:05 GMT -5
I dont think you were incorrect about Kerry being on Sting's level. Heck, I'd argue that he could have been bigger than Sting ever was. In 84 and 85 he adorned every national wrestling mag, about the same as the Road Warriors and Hogan. In the early half of the 80's, I think Kerry could have been as big as Sting, but by the late 80's Hogan had changed what people were looking for in a top tier babyface. It was all about being flashy and loud, and Sting was both of these things. Kerry was more like Bob Backlund or Magnum TA, who were at the top of their era but didn't have the ingredients to hang with the Hogans, Stings, Flairs and Warriors in the late 80's. Don't mistake me, I was speaking about little Jr. Wrestling fan ICBM...icbm I guess. ICBM the older wiser version understands perfectly well the limitations Kerry Von Erich had. He was a hero of mine but knowing what his demons were and reading stories about him have made me sad and I learned that no matter how long ago I learned about Santa, Easter Bunnies, Tooth Fairies etc. our childhood beliefs being exposed for what they are is still difficult to take but it doesn't make it any less true. No he was never likely to be on their level |
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