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Post by Woo on Nov 1, 2015 13:06:01 GMT -5
I was disgusted with them for how they treated Roxxi and Daffney near the end of her run, but what made me the most personally furious was the Dinero/Joe feud. It was messed up enough to suggest he spent his money he'd collect for "church" to use for picking up women. Stupid, doesn't further the angle at all, but it's at least just sleazy. Then we have a scene with him trying to adopt a pitbull with the money, and he explicitly states after dancing around it that he wants it for fighting. Dogfighting is absolutely disgusting, morally abhorrent, and unacceptable, but the fact he was given that to do because he was the black guy, pretty much, and that's what black folk do hyuck hyuck, brought my piss to a boil, as they say. The only reason they didn't catch much flack for it was because TNA had already lost any vestige of relevance. Jeff Jarrett being the HHH of TV as World champion and how he had to beat Raven because he "needed" to be champion to debut on Spike and yet Raven got nothing from that. He was push down the card just as fast he was put into the ME. That was actually Rhino who's reign they ended in on a house show. They also had the Naturals lose the tag belts on a house show because they wanted AMW to be the first champions when they went on Spike. It was a complete reset and a 'f**k you' to the fans that had watched online before they went on Spike. The 2nd reset in 2010 is my pick. Hogan changing EVERYTHING that I loved about the company caused me to stop watching right away. Changing the ring to four sides, bringing in his washed up pals, having champion AJ Styles turn heel and immitate Ric Flair, hiring Bubba Love Sponge and then taking HIS side over Amazing Kong who is one of your biggest draws and forcing her out of the company. Then Hogan deemed that Desmond Wolfe should be depushed because the heel should not be a better wrestler than the babyface despite the fact that Hogan has made a career playing a babyface who wrestled far better heel workers. For as much stick as Russo gets Hogan is second to only Dixie as the man that killed TNA and the fact he even left with her clinging to her leg. Wow. I also hate their treatment of Roxi. Letting her know the day of a PPV that despite being one of the better and more popular workers that she was losing a career match. I hate this company.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 1, 2015 13:33:47 GMT -5
Just...the whole of 2010. Maybe not their worst year, but the year that best showed me what a lost cause this company is.
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Post by Halloween on Nov 1, 2015 16:37:26 GMT -5
It was Raven that Jeff Jarrett beat. It was at Scott Damore's (Spelling?) promotion Border City Wrestling. Rhino won the title at Bound For Glory and lost it back to Jarrett a week or two later on TV I believe which is where the confusion might be coming from.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 1, 2015 16:41:11 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett being the HHH of TV as World champion and how he had to beat Raven because he "needed" to be champion to debut on Spike and yet Raven got nothing from that. He was push down the card just as fast he was put into the ME. That was actually Rhino who's reign they ended in on a house show. They also had the Naturals lose the tag belts on a house show because they wanted AMW to be the first champions when they went on Spike. It was a complete reset and a 'f**k you' to the fans that had watched online before they went on Spike. The 2nd reset in 2010 is my pick. Hogan changing EVERYTHING that I loved about the company caused me to stop watching right away. Changing the ring to four sides, bringing in his washed up pals, having champion AJ Styles turn heel and immitate Ric Flair, hiring Bubba Love Sponge and then taking HIS side over Amazing Kong who is one of your biggest draws and forcing her out of the company. Then Hogan deemed that Desmond Wolfe should be depushed because the heel should not be a better wrestler than the babyface despite the fact that Hogan has made a career playing a babyface who wrestled far better heel workers. For as much stick as Russo gets Hogan is second to only Dixie as the man that killed TNA and the fact he even left with her clinging to her leg. Wow. I also hate their treatment of Roxi. Letting her know the day of a PPV that despite being one of the better and more popular workers that she was losing a career match. I hate this company. No it was Raven. Raven was champion during the post FSN days pre Spike TV. The week before Spike TV debute Jarrett beat Raven after AMW helped out. Rhino was only World champion when he won it at the first Bound for Glory and Jarrett won it back that Thursday on Impact.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 16:49:58 GMT -5
Isn't this the speech that Homicide and someone else? tried to leave during?
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Post by MGH on Nov 1, 2015 17:31:51 GMT -5
The way they kept stringing out Samoa Joe becoming Champion until the momentum was gone and people weren't nearly as excited for it anymore. They had a window where undefeated Joe was as hot as it got in wrestling. A legitimate monster who could wrestle his butt off with a real dangerous aura to him. That window was the time to put the belt on him. It happened well over a full year later than it should have.
Bully Ray and that deal made me equally as mad. I hadn't been watching TNA for two years by this point but I kept reading how Bubba Ray of all people had becoming this awesome character and one of the driving forces behind the TV show. Just like Joe, he had a monster amount of momentum. He was being turned face by the crowd (this is before he got directly involved with A&8s). He was enough to get me watching again. Then he loses to Jeff Hardy in the Finals of the BFG Series because TNA has the weirdest boner of all time for Jeff Hardy. Just like Joe, when he actually got the title he was a heel (not wanted) and at about 50% of his previous level.
TNA was the WORST at pulling the trigger at the proper moment.
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Post by chrom on Nov 1, 2015 17:33:29 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett being the HHH of TV as World champion and how he had to beat Raven because he "needed" to be champion to debut on Spike and yet Raven got nothing from that. He was push down the card just as fast he was put into the ME. That was actually Rhino who's reign they ended in on a house show. They also had the Naturals lose the tag belts on a house show because they wanted AMW to be the first champions when they went on Spike. It was a complete reset and a 'f**k you' to the fans that had watched online before they went on Spike. The 2nd reset in 2010 is my pick. Hogan changing EVERYTHING that I loved about the company caused me to stop watching right away. Changing the ring to four sides, bringing in his washed up pals, having champion AJ Styles turn heel and immitate Ric Flair, hiring Bubba Love Sponge and then taking HIS side over Amazing Kong who is one of your biggest draws and forcing her out of the company. Then Hogan deemed that Desmond Wolfe should be depushed because the heel should not be a better wrestler than the babyface despite the fact that Hogan has made a career playing a babyface who wrestled far better heel workers. For as much stick as Russo gets Hogan is second to only Dixie as the man that killed TNA and the fact he even left with her clinging to her leg. Wow. I also hate their treatment of Roxi. Letting her know the day of a PPV that despite being one of the better and more popular workers that she was losing a career match. I hate this company. Jarrett beat Raven at the event not Rhino. Also it was the night before BFG 05 on Spike that AMW beat The Naturals to win The NWA belts
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Post by chrom on Nov 1, 2015 17:36:10 GMT -5
Isn't this the speech that Homicide and someone else? tried to leave during? A number of talent including Homicide did demand their release after she gave that speech and TNA refused to grant them. You can just see how pissed they were doing it, at the gall she had to pull that stunt and air it on TV. It was a flatout miracle a walkout didn't happen then and there.
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Post by Halloween on Nov 1, 2015 17:56:50 GMT -5
That Dixie promo (speech?) is so funny. The faces of the people WWE used to employ are like "What in the hell is going on here?" whilst guys who know better such as AJ are literally twiddling their thumbs waiting for it to be over with.
Also kind of sad to look at the close up of talent and count how many are actually left.
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Post by percymania on Nov 1, 2015 18:13:25 GMT -5
I've never been mad with TNA, just disappointed.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 2, 2015 10:26:47 GMT -5
Isn't this the speech that Homicide and someone else? tried to leave during? After. They tried to call her bluff on the like it or leave it line and then refused to let them leave. Why the hell TNA thought this was a good idea to do and eve more baffling AIR... is definitely one of the dumbest things they've done.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 2, 2015 13:56:27 GMT -5
Isn't this the speech that Homicide and someone else? tried to leave during? After. They tried to call her bluff on the like it or leave it line and then refused to let them leave. Why the hell TNA thought this was a good idea to do and eve more baffling AIR... is definitely one of the dumbest things they've done. I would assume someone got in Dixies ear saying assert your dominance. I can see Steph doing the same thing but there is at least somewhat a respect factor involved with her. To air it on TV tho is just ridiculous.
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 2, 2015 20:08:57 GMT -5
After. They tried to call her bluff on the like it or leave it line and then refused to let them leave. Why the hell TNA thought this was a good idea to do and eve more baffling AIR... is definitely one of the dumbest things they've done. I would assume someone got in Dixies ear saying assert your dominance. I can see Steph doing the same thing but there is at least somewhat a respect factor involved with her. To air it on TV tho is just ridiculous. When you're heir apparent to the premier wrestling company on the continent, you command respect (whether you deserve it or not). When you're just a spoiled half-wit pretending to be the above, everyone with a lick of sense will see right through it.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 2, 2015 20:43:28 GMT -5
Man, reading so much of this shit is making me angry all over again.
One that sticks out to me, one that made me stop watching as much, was the killing of Desmond Wolfe's momentum. Dude comes in, looks strong as hell, beats Kurt Angle & is generally a badass who can cut a promo.
Then Hogan comes in, goes "LOLNO" and he disappears into obscurity.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 2, 2015 23:26:52 GMT -5
Man, reading so much of this shit is making me angry all over again. One that sticks out to me, one that made me stop watching as much, was the killing of Desmond Wolfe's momentum. Dude comes in, looks strong as hell, beats Kurt Angle & is generally a badass who can cut a promo. Then Hogan comes in, goes "LOLNO" and he disappears into obscurity. I think that in his documentary, Nigel said that he got heat because Hogan didn't liked that a heel would wrestle better than his opponents. I don't think that Wolfe dissapeared right away, sure he got demoted but he was still feuding with Abyss (who was a pet project for Hogan) and he was also getting over again when he teamed with Magnus. I think that team would've been awesome, they were booked to feud with the Machineguns, but Nigel got hep b a short time after that.
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Post by lowlystockboy on Nov 3, 2015 2:22:24 GMT -5
When they didn't have The Turkey Bowl on the Thanksgiving IMPACT last year. Hoping they bring it back this coming Thanksgiving episode that nonsense did make me laugh.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Nov 3, 2015 3:05:51 GMT -5
The endless monotony that Aces and Eights inevitably became was pretty damn anger-inducing, but I don't think that was the angriest I ever got...
...damn, I'll need to rewatch 2011-2012 TNA to remember what really got on my knockers back then, and oh god I don't wanna.
Can I be mad that TNA continues to emulate Rasputin?
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 3, 2015 3:47:01 GMT -5
The endless monotony that Aces and Eights inevitably became was pretty damn anger-inducing, but I don't think that was the angriest I ever got... ...damn, I'll need to rewatch 2011-2012 TNA to remember what really got on my knockers back then, and oh god I don't wanna.Can I be mad that TNA continues to emulate Rasputin? If TNA had picked up Vladimir Kozlov, that'd be his gimmick: Russia's Greatest Love Machine.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 3, 2015 5:51:04 GMT -5
Man, reading so much of this shit is making me angry all over again. One that sticks out to me, one that made me stop watching as much, was the killing of Desmond Wolfe's momentum. Dude comes in, looks strong as hell, beats Kurt Angle & is generally a badass who can cut a promo. Then Hogan comes in, goes "LOLNO" and he disappears into obscurity. I think that in his documentary, Nigel said that he got heat because Hogan didn't liked that a heel would wrestle better than his opponents. I don't think that Wolfe dissapeared right away, sure he got demoted but he was still feuding with Abyss (who was a pet project for Hogan) and he was also getting over again when he teamed with Magnus. I think that team would've been awesome, they were booked to feud with the Machineguns, but Nigel got hep b a short time after that. Can you imagine if WWE had that logic? Half the roster would be getting de-pushed. Hell, most of Hogan's opponents wrestled better than him! And I know he didn't exactly disappear, but he went from seemingly having a rocket strapped to him to doing nothing of value. Just because he can wrestle. Madness.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Nov 3, 2015 6:47:27 GMT -5
I think that in his documentary, Nigel said that he got heat because Hogan didn't liked that a heel would wrestle better than his opponents. I don't think that Wolfe dissapeared right away, sure he got demoted but he was still feuding with Abyss (who was a pet project for Hogan) and he was also getting over again when he teamed with Magnus. I think that team would've been awesome, they were booked to feud with the Machineguns, but Nigel got hep b a short time after that. Can you imagine if WWE had that logic? Half the roster would be getting de-pushed. Hell, most of Hogan's opponents wrestled better than him! And I know he didn't exactly disappear, but he went from seemingly having a rocket strapped to him to doing nothing of value. Just because he can wrestle. Madness. TNA. The only company where you get demoted for being good at your job.
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